Hyatt reducing elite requirements for 2021
#91
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I'm fully relaxed thank you and agree to some extent
Many a hotel in every brand in and out of Hyatt have chosen to diminish upgrades and breakfast benefits for elites during COVID,
I don't have a lot of data points on my own doing less than 1/3 of what I have done historically in yearly nights.
In confidence I've heard from some pretty high up management folks in Hyatt hotel properties they have the ability to weed out the Globalist lites
For that reason and to some extent other factors I have always believed some of the elite levels to be somewhat illusion like.
In an empty Sheraton Airport hotel as a lifetime Titanium recently for example receiving no breakfast and a standard room with suites going empty
I didn't mention it as I came in late and left early.
Now add all the newly Minted Bonjoy Plats coming in with their free elite status with a credit card.and no stays to date.
When things return back to somewhat normal the most sought after properties like Andaz Maui it could be an issue even without the added xtra elite burden
Especially properties where there is very limited pool of upgrades to pull from
Many a hotel in every brand in and out of Hyatt have chosen to diminish upgrades and breakfast benefits for elites during COVID,
I don't have a lot of data points on my own doing less than 1/3 of what I have done historically in yearly nights.
In confidence I've heard from some pretty high up management folks in Hyatt hotel properties they have the ability to weed out the Globalist lites
For that reason and to some extent other factors I have always believed some of the elite levels to be somewhat illusion like.
In an empty Sheraton Airport hotel as a lifetime Titanium recently for example receiving no breakfast and a standard room with suites going empty
I didn't mention it as I came in late and left early.
Now add all the newly Minted Bonjoy Plats coming in with their free elite status with a credit card.and no stays to date.
When things return back to somewhat normal the most sought after properties like Andaz Maui it could be an issue even without the added xtra elite burden
Especially properties where there is very limited pool of upgrades to pull from
#92
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Even more reason to not care about 15-night Globalists - who will NOT have TSUs. Once the legacy TSUs are flushed out of the system, those who have been doing 60 nights in 2020 and 2021 will have very little competition at all for TSU-guaranteed suite upgrades in 2022 and beyond...
Travel to these 3 areas are Major for Hyatt and TSU usage.
I think a lot of people will have Globalist, but not retain it. I am interested to see if they are granted a Concierge since it’s supposedly a 60 Night Milestone, but it was granted to those who requalified this year via the extension, rather than by hitting the Milestone.
#93
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I think a lot of people will have Globalist, but not retain it. I am interested to see if they are granted a Concierge since it’s supposedly a 60 Night Milestone, but it was granted to those who requalified this year via the extension, rather than by hitting the Milestone.
https://help.hyatt.com/en/faqs/world.../covid-19.html
18. If I currently have a My Hyatt Concierge, and maintain my tier, will I keep my My Hyatt Concierge or will I need to stay 60 qualifying nights?
My Hyatt Concierge is a Milestone Reward that is earned after staying 60 qualifying nights or earning 100,000 Base Points in a calendar year. Once you qualify, you have access to your My Hyatt Concierge for the remainder of the year in which you qualify plus 14 months.
My Hyatt Concierge is a Milestone Reward that is earned after staying 60 qualifying nights or earning 100,000 Base Points in a calendar year. Once you qualify, you have access to your My Hyatt Concierge for the remainder of the year in which you qualify plus 14 months.
Does that sound right?
#94
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Related to that, I'm assuming that those Globs that qualified with the requisite nights/points in 2019, but not 2020, would only get a Concierge through end of February 2021 (end of 2019 + 14 months), even though their Glob status was extended through end of February 2022.
Does that sound right?
Does that sound right?
#95
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If the differentiation/discrimination between Globalist "Lite" and Full Globalists becomes too obvious this promotion could have the unwanted side affect of actually turning potential new loyalists away from Hyatt. It's a fine line Hyatt and the hotels are going to have to follow with this. Hyatt is in the "hospitality" business after all.
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#97
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What's confusing about it? Before the promo was extended, it would have ended 1/4. So if you have a stay with check out date before 1/1, you would earn 1 eqn for each night in 2020 and 1 eqn for each night in 2021 . However if your stay crosses into 2021 (start in 2020 and ends between 1/1-4) then all your nights count twice in 2021 and none in 2020. Example: 12/5-1/4 stay would earn 30x2 nights in 2021 and 0 in 2020, 12/5-12/31 stay would earn 26 nights in 2020 and 26 nights in 2021
Now if the extension is confirmed and the new end date is 2/28/2021, any stay with a check out date of 2/28 and before would earn 2x eqns for 2021. Example: 12/31-1/30 stay would earn 30x2 nights in 2021 and 0 in 2020.
Since globalist only requires 30 nights, do your maths to figure how many nights do you need to get there
Now if the extension is confirmed and the new end date is 2/28/2021, any stay with a check out date of 2/28 and before would earn 2x eqns for 2021. Example: 12/31-1/30 stay would earn 30x2 nights in 2021 and 0 in 2020.
Since globalist only requires 30 nights, do your maths to figure how many nights do you need to get there
#98
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Excellent post but using your example one would receive double 2021 night credits if checked in by Dec 31 2020 implying if check in date is Jan 1 and check out Jan 4 2021 the credit would be only 1 per night. So to receive 30 2021 nights credit after 15 nights a check in by Dec 31 2020 is required. Am I correct?
#99
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Excellent post but using your example one would receive double 2021 night credits if checked in by Dec 31 2020 implying if check in date is Jan 1 and check out Jan 4 2021 the credit would be only 1 per night. So to receive 30 2021 nights credit after 15 nights a check in by Dec 31 2020 is required. Am I correct?
#100
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Really, since milestone rewards were introduced, there is no logical reason to use the made-up term "glob lite". Or how do you refer to an Explorist with TSUs?
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Was talking to a Hyatt sales manager out by ORD and he said the governor's haphazard orders and changes are KILLING them.
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Chicago Hyatt hotels live off major event/conference-related attendance and people coming in for business/sales meetings, and that's not happening in this era where employers and vendors don't want to set themselves up with liability for endangering the lives and health of their employees and those coming into contact with them. A substantial chunk of business is being done via video calls instead of in-person get-togethers, and that is business "killing" business.
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Do you guys think this promotion puts 100 nights in 2021 so crazily feasible?
I will start 2021 with almost 50 nights and getting 25 additional nights sounds like so easy in Jan/ Feb?
That is 1 cat4 night 1 cat7 night, 4 club upgrades, 4 suite upgrades, 100 USD, and a choice between 4 suite upgrades and 40000 points.
Am I missing sth.?
I will start 2021 with almost 50 nights and getting 25 additional nights sounds like so easy in Jan/ Feb?
That is 1 cat4 night 1 cat7 night, 4 club upgrades, 4 suite upgrades, 100 USD, and a choice between 4 suite upgrades and 40000 points.
Am I missing sth.?
#104
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Do you guys think this promotion puts 100 nights in 2021 so crazily feasible?
I will start 2021 with almost 50 nights and getting 25 additional nights sounds like so easy in Jan/ Feb?
That is 1 cat4 night 1 cat7 night, 4 club upgrades, 4 suite upgrades, 100 USD, and a choice between 4 suite upgrades and 40000 points.
Am I missing sth.?
I will start 2021 with almost 50 nights and getting 25 additional nights sounds like so easy in Jan/ Feb?
That is 1 cat4 night 1 cat7 night, 4 club upgrades, 4 suite upgrades, 100 USD, and a choice between 4 suite upgrades and 40000 points.
Am I missing sth.?
#105
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Travel demand is down big time even for hotels that are open and pretty much operating like normal in places without government "orders and changes" (related to the pandemic) "killing them". And given something like a tenth to a third of pre-pandemic business travel is unlikely to come back for at least 2+ years (if ever), I can't say I'm surprised by Hyatt reducing elite status qualification requirements and keeping them lower (than pre-pandemic levels) into at least part of 2022 (if not longer in parts).
Chicago Hyatt hotels live off major event/conference-related attendance and people coming in for business/sales meetings, and that's not happening in this era where employers and vendors don't want to set themselves up with liability for endangering the lives and health of their employees and those coming into contact with them. A substantial chunk of business is being done via video calls instead of in-person get-togethers, and that is business "killing" business.
Chicago Hyatt hotels live off major event/conference-related attendance and people coming in for business/sales meetings, and that's not happening in this era where employers and vendors don't want to set themselves up with liability for endangering the lives and health of their employees and those coming into contact with them. A substantial chunk of business is being done via video calls instead of in-person get-togethers, and that is business "killing" business.
There's a whole bunch of hotels that are situated near conference centers, CBDs that aren't really tourist hotspots, airports, etc. and are in the black based on business traffic, that are going to have some serious problems if business travel's down 20-30% going forward, let alone 50% if Bill Gates is right. A bunch of leisure-oriented FTers who are snarfing up Globalist so they can get suites at the Andaz Maui/PH Maldives/etc. aren't going to save those hotels. Look at what's happening in Manhattan and multiply all over...