Hyatt reducing elite requirements for 2021
Dec 5, 2020, 7:17 pm
#136
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Beijing
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I'm a "real" Globalist and couldn't care less, especially not when the question includes a childish term like "plebs."
Dec 5, 2020, 9:30 pm
#137
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,874
Dec 5, 2020, 9:58 pm
#139
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
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Dec 6, 2020, 12:43 pm
#142
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
Yeah this is literally me. Instead of staying at Ritz/St. Regis/Edition/Autograph or Kimpton in 2021/2022, I'll be staying 8-10 times at Park Hyatt, Andaz, Unbound and maybe the odd Grand Hyatt or Alila. And I'll use TSU wherever it's an option. The places I travel for work don't have good Hyatt options so I'll be no competition another 8 weeks out of the year. Will Hyatt be making any money off me over the next two years? Probably not much, but what little revenue I represent will be going to them. And who knows, maybe it will stick. Hyatt seems to have great luxury options in many of the places I want to go when things open up again.
I'm doing a 45 night mattress run starting today for about $3,500. I purchased the max allowed Hyatt points this year, so I'm also looking at this as a way to generate points for Cat 7 stays as well as Globalist.
I'm doing a 45 night mattress run starting today for about $3,500. I purchased the max allowed Hyatt points this year, so I'm also looking at this as a way to generate points for Cat 7 stays as well as Globalist.
Dec 6, 2020, 1:26 pm
#143
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: OH & NV
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, WN CP, Latin Pass Bonus
Posts: 3,707
Newbie questions: The program is complicated, but I have been studying the rules.
I am trying to get Globalist by the 30 qual stays in Jan/Feb 2021. I have had the WOH credit card since Dec 2019 with a monthly cut off on the 4th. I am Discoverist now with 7 Tier Qual nights YTD and 60k points.
I assume the 7 tier Qual nights in my acct will not carry over to 2021 (be 0 out 31 Dec 2020) - correct?
Starting Jan 2021, do I get some new Tier Qual nights credited to my Hyatt acct from my credit card - or not?
I will pay for some "free" hotel stays in Jan with my 60k points (at low cost places). Believe these count 2x for Tier Qual if used in 2021. Correct? 5 free stays = 10 Tier Qual Nights
I also can spend about $10,000 on Hyatt credit card between now and 2/28/21. If I spend some in DEC, do these $$ not count toward the Tier Qual points for Jan? (eg. spend $2,000 in DEC and $3,000 in Jan, but only the $3,000 count toward 2021 Tier Qual nights???) ? Or do the Dec Spend accumulate into Jan to get to the $5,000 spend = 2 Tier Qual Points?
I assume regular Dec spending does not hit Hyatt acct until Jan as my credit card cut-off date is 4 Jan, so those reg ponts can be use for "free" stays after the Jan cut-off.? Correct?
I assume if I can get +/- 26 Tier Qual points Jan - Feb with hotel stays (free and paid) and get the rest a few months after Feb from the Credit Card $10,000 spend = 4 Tier Qual Points OR if needed, a stay although only 1 Tier Qual Stay each). This assuming I will not get any Tier Qual Stays in Jan just for having the Hyarr credit card. Correct?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks for your patience with this newbie to Hyatt.
I am trying to get Globalist by the 30 qual stays in Jan/Feb 2021. I have had the WOH credit card since Dec 2019 with a monthly cut off on the 4th. I am Discoverist now with 7 Tier Qual nights YTD and 60k points.
I assume the 7 tier Qual nights in my acct will not carry over to 2021 (be 0 out 31 Dec 2020) - correct?
Starting Jan 2021, do I get some new Tier Qual nights credited to my Hyatt acct from my credit card - or not?
I will pay for some "free" hotel stays in Jan with my 60k points (at low cost places). Believe these count 2x for Tier Qual if used in 2021. Correct? 5 free stays = 10 Tier Qual Nights
I also can spend about $10,000 on Hyatt credit card between now and 2/28/21. If I spend some in DEC, do these $$ not count toward the Tier Qual points for Jan? (eg. spend $2,000 in DEC and $3,000 in Jan, but only the $3,000 count toward 2021 Tier Qual nights???) ? Or do the Dec Spend accumulate into Jan to get to the $5,000 spend = 2 Tier Qual Points?
I assume regular Dec spending does not hit Hyatt acct until Jan as my credit card cut-off date is 4 Jan, so those reg ponts can be use for "free" stays after the Jan cut-off.? Correct?
I assume if I can get +/- 26 Tier Qual points Jan - Feb with hotel stays (free and paid) and get the rest a few months after Feb from the Credit Card $10,000 spend = 4 Tier Qual Points OR if needed, a stay although only 1 Tier Qual Stay each). This assuming I will not get any Tier Qual Stays in Jan just for having the Hyarr credit card. Correct?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks for your patience with this newbie to Hyatt.
Dec 6, 2020, 5:12 pm
#144
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Beijing
Posts: 295
Newbie questions: The program is complicated, but I have been studying the rules.
I am trying to get Globalist by the 30 qual stays in Jan/Feb 2021. I have had the WOH credit card since Dec 2019 with a monthly cut off on the 4th. I am Discoverist now with 7 Tier Qual nights YTD and 60k points.
I assume the 7 tier Qual nights in my acct will not carry over to 2021 (be 0 out 31 Dec 2020) - correct?
Starting Jan 2021, do I get some new Tier Qual nights credited to my Hyatt acct from my credit card - or not?
I will pay for some "free" hotel stays in Jan with my 60k points (at low cost places). Believe these count 2x for Tier Qual if used in 2021. Correct? 5 free stays = 10 Tier Qual Nights
I also can spend about $10,000 on Hyatt credit card between now and 2/28/21. If I spend some in DEC, do these $$ not count toward the Tier Qual points for Jan? (eg. spend $2,000 in DEC and $3,000 in Jan, but only the $3,000 count toward 2021 Tier Qual nights???) ? Or do the Dec Spend accumulate into Jan to get to the $5,000 spend = 2 Tier Qual Points?
I assume regular Dec spending does not hit Hyatt acct until Jan as my credit card cut-off date is 4 Jan, so those reg ponts can be use for "free" stays after the Jan cut-off.? Correct?
I assume if I can get +/- 26 Tier Qual points Jan - Feb with hotel stays (free and paid) and get the rest a few months after Feb from the Credit Card $10,000 spend = 4 Tier Qual Points OR if needed, a stay although only 1 Tier Qual Stay each). This assuming I will not get any Tier Qual Stays in Jan just for having the Hyarr credit card. Correct?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks for your patience with this newbie to Hyatt.
I am trying to get Globalist by the 30 qual stays in Jan/Feb 2021. I have had the WOH credit card since Dec 2019 with a monthly cut off on the 4th. I am Discoverist now with 7 Tier Qual nights YTD and 60k points.
I assume the 7 tier Qual nights in my acct will not carry over to 2021 (be 0 out 31 Dec 2020) - correct?
Starting Jan 2021, do I get some new Tier Qual nights credited to my Hyatt acct from my credit card - or not?
I will pay for some "free" hotel stays in Jan with my 60k points (at low cost places). Believe these count 2x for Tier Qual if used in 2021. Correct? 5 free stays = 10 Tier Qual Nights
I also can spend about $10,000 on Hyatt credit card between now and 2/28/21. If I spend some in DEC, do these $$ not count toward the Tier Qual points for Jan? (eg. spend $2,000 in DEC and $3,000 in Jan, but only the $3,000 count toward 2021 Tier Qual nights???) ? Or do the Dec Spend accumulate into Jan to get to the $5,000 spend = 2 Tier Qual Points?
I assume regular Dec spending does not hit Hyatt acct until Jan as my credit card cut-off date is 4 Jan, so those reg ponts can be use for "free" stays after the Jan cut-off.? Correct?
I assume if I can get +/- 26 Tier Qual points Jan - Feb with hotel stays (free and paid) and get the rest a few months after Feb from the Credit Card $10,000 spend = 4 Tier Qual Points OR if needed, a stay although only 1 Tier Qual Stay each). This assuming I will not get any Tier Qual Stays in Jan just for having the Hyarr credit card. Correct?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks for your patience with this newbie to Hyatt.
2. Yes, you will get 5 nights for 2021.
3. They should count twice. Remember also that points stays through February will get a 25 percent rebate since you hold a Hyatt credit card.
4. Until Jan 1, 2022 (possibly, I'm actually not clear if the spend reset applies to night credits or just the anniversary free night) spend accumulates across calendar years and the date of whichever purchase put you over the $5k mark will be what counts for 2 nights. So those nights should post for 2021 if you hit $5k in January.
5. That's right.
6. As you suspected in question 2, you get 5 nights annually just from having the credit card, so factor that into your calculations. Otherwise correct. Some term ambiguity here though. Hyatt no longer counts "stays" as separate metrics; they only count nights and base points for status now.
Dec 6, 2020, 7:27 pm
#145
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: OH & NV
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, WN CP, Latin Pass Bonus
Posts: 3,707
1. Unless the stays were in Q4 (after October 1), they will not carry over.
2. Yes, you will get 5 nights for 2021.
3. They should count twice. Remember also that points stays through February will get a 25 percent rebate since you hold a Hyatt credit card.
4. Until Jan 1, 2022 (possibly, I'm actually not clear if the spend reset applies to night credits or just the anniversary free night) spend accumulates across calendar years and the date of whichever purchase put you over the $5k mark will be what counts for 2 nights. So those nights should post for 2021 if you hit $5k in January.
5. That's right.
6. As you suspected in question 2, you get 5 nights annually just from having the credit card, so factor that into your calculations. Otherwise correct. Some term ambiguity here though. Hyatt no longer counts "stays" as separate metrics; they only count nights and base points for status now.
2. Yes, you will get 5 nights for 2021.
3. They should count twice. Remember also that points stays through February will get a 25 percent rebate since you hold a Hyatt credit card.
4. Until Jan 1, 2022 (possibly, I'm actually not clear if the spend reset applies to night credits or just the anniversary free night) spend accumulates across calendar years and the date of whichever purchase put you over the $5k mark will be what counts for 2 nights. So those nights should post for 2021 if you hit $5k in January.
5. That's right.
6. As you suspected in question 2, you get 5 nights annually just from having the credit card, so factor that into your calculations. Otherwise correct. Some term ambiguity here though. Hyatt no longer counts "stays" as separate metrics; they only count nights and base points for status now.
Cotton Candy, Thanks SO much for the reply. It all is becoming clearer now. And especially for the info on 25% rebate on point free nights. I had heard, but forgot that.
Two clairifcations:
1. You state I will get 5 "Elite night credits" for having the WOH cr card in 2021. Do you know if these post in Jan or early Feb of 2021? (I like to see where I am early in the game to be sure I have the count correctly before the 2x points stop on 2/28. So I only need to earn 25 points in 2021 by nights stays or $5,000 spending (2 night credits) on Cr card to reach Globalist?
2. Do you know if the 25% rebate for point stays you mentioned get posted back to my Hyatt acct fairly quickly after the stays? If I do this early Jan, I would like to use the points for stays before end of Feb.
I am an expert in all things Southwest airlines, but have lots to learn about Hyatt - fast becoming my go to hotel chain. Thanks again.
Dec 6, 2020, 8:38 pm
#146
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: BOS
Programs: Hyatt Glob/UA Gold
Posts: 614
I expect to receive Globalist after I check out on Jan 2nd because I'll also have 5 nights from the credit card. Then I'll receive 2 suite upgrades at 45 nights in mid January. Then when the bonus nights post after the end of the promo in March, I'll be at 95 nights and receive 5 suite upgrades for hitting 60, 70, 80, and 90 nights. Then I'll receive one more suite upgrade after I stay another 5 nights during 2021. Have a trip planned in October and will likely apply the first two at the Park Hyatt Kyoto (hence the urgency). I'll probably burn a few across Central and Southern Europe in 21-2022 (Milan, Vienna, Budapest).
I don't need the room, but my wife offered it up to the rest of the family and now all of a sudden people want to get in on a free room. Making me a little nervous because I'll either have to meet folks and give them the key, or put them on the reservation. The front desk said I could add and remove people if they needed to get keys. They were pretty chill and happy to see me.
Edit to say: there's a chance I will get screwed here, if Massachusetts goes on lockdown in December. I'm hoping the protocol would be that current guests can stay and the hotel would just disregard that I'm not actually there. But They could also cancel my reservation and I'd be out the cost of the room minus the value of the points generated.
Dec 6, 2020, 10:33 pm
#147
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Beijing
Posts: 295
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Cotton Candy, Thanks SO much for the reply. It all is becoming clearer now. And especially for the info on 25% rebate on point free nights. I had heard, but forgot that.
Two clairifcations:
1. You state I will get 5 "Elite night credits" for having the WOH cr card in 2021. Do you know if these post in Jan or early Feb of 2021? (I like to see where I am early in the game to be sure I have the count correctly before the 2x points stop on 2/28. So I only need to earn 25 points in 2021 by nights stays or $5,000 spending (2 night credits) on Cr card to reach Globalist?
2. Do you know if the 25% rebate for point stays you mentioned get posted back to my Hyatt acct fairly quickly after the stays? If I do this early Jan, I would like to use the points for stays before end of Feb.
I am an expert in all things Southwest airlines, but have lots to learn about Hyatt - fast becoming my go to hotel chain. Thanks again.
Cotton Candy, Thanks SO much for the reply. It all is becoming clearer now. And especially for the info on 25% rebate on point free nights. I had heard, but forgot that.
Two clairifcations:
1. You state I will get 5 "Elite night credits" for having the WOH cr card in 2021. Do you know if these post in Jan or early Feb of 2021? (I like to see where I am early in the game to be sure I have the count correctly before the 2x points stop on 2/28. So I only need to earn 25 points in 2021 by nights stays or $5,000 spending (2 night credits) on Cr card to reach Globalist?
2. Do you know if the 25% rebate for point stays you mentioned get posted back to my Hyatt acct fairly quickly after the stays? If I do this early Jan, I would like to use the points for stays before end of Feb.
I am an expert in all things Southwest airlines, but have lots to learn about Hyatt - fast becoming my go to hotel chain. Thanks again.
2. You'll get the points back in two rounds, one 15 percent round for everyone and a 10 percent round for Hyatt cardholders. I haven't done a lot of points bookings for this period, but both times the rebates were posted within 2-10 days.
Dec 7, 2020, 7:39 am
#148
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Cotton Candy, Thanks SO much for the reply. It all is becoming clearer now. And especially for the info on 25% rebate on point free nights. I had heard, but forgot that.
Two clairifcations:
1. You state I will get 5 "Elite night credits" for having the WOH cr card in 2021. Do you know if these post in Jan or early Feb of 2021? (I like to see where I am early in the game to be sure I have the count correctly before the 2x points stop on 2/28. So I only need to earn 25 points in 2021 by nights stays or $5,000 spending (2 night credits) on Cr card to reach Globalist?
2. Do you know if the 25% rebate for point stays you mentioned get posted back to my Hyatt acct fairly quickly after the stays? If I do this early Jan, I would like to use the points for stays before end of Feb.
I am an expert in all things Southwest airlines, but have lots to learn about Hyatt - fast becoming my go to hotel chain. Thanks again.
Cotton Candy, Thanks SO much for the reply. It all is becoming clearer now. And especially for the info on 25% rebate on point free nights. I had heard, but forgot that.
Two clairifcations:
1. You state I will get 5 "Elite night credits" for having the WOH cr card in 2021. Do you know if these post in Jan or early Feb of 2021? (I like to see where I am early in the game to be sure I have the count correctly before the 2x points stop on 2/28. So I only need to earn 25 points in 2021 by nights stays or $5,000 spending (2 night credits) on Cr card to reach Globalist?
2. Do you know if the 25% rebate for point stays you mentioned get posted back to my Hyatt acct fairly quickly after the stays? If I do this early Jan, I would like to use the points for stays before end of Feb.
I am an expert in all things Southwest airlines, but have lots to learn about Hyatt - fast becoming my go to hotel chain. Thanks again.
Through February, points are (at least) tripled while nights are doubled.
Dec 7, 2020, 9:55 am
#149
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Posts: 10,093
To Echo Cotton Candy Lobster the 5 nights credit posted by Chase has been quite timely historically posting
with some immediacy in my own experience and some of those I hear from who are also CC holders. .
As for point rebates and decades with Hyatt Gold Passport and now WOH promotions agents are told
to say 6 to 8 weeks to post which essentially covers them for screw ups
Having said that I have noticed that when things are transmitted properly I would agree 24 hours to a week on average
The problem is if it happens to go through correctly.That's the big If even if most of the time it does.YMMV
Hyatt now has many new brands and partner relationships that can take longer to post.
As one long time example of issues has been MGM properties
Though I have had good luck myself in recent years others still seem to struggle and there are a number of reasons
too complicated to go into detail here that could help to reduce the failure rate of MGM properties posting properly
Hope everything works out just as expected and in a timely manor
Cheers
with some immediacy in my own experience and some of those I hear from who are also CC holders. .
As for point rebates and decades with Hyatt Gold Passport and now WOH promotions agents are told
to say 6 to 8 weeks to post which essentially covers them for screw ups
Having said that I have noticed that when things are transmitted properly I would agree 24 hours to a week on average
The problem is if it happens to go through correctly.That's the big If even if most of the time it does.YMMV
Hyatt now has many new brands and partner relationships that can take longer to post.
As one long time example of issues has been MGM properties
Though I have had good luck myself in recent years others still seem to struggle and there are a number of reasons
too complicated to go into detail here that could help to reduce the failure rate of MGM properties posting properly
Hope everything works out just as expected and in a timely manor
Cheers
Last edited by 777 global mile hound; Dec 7, 2020 at 10:04 am
Dec 31, 2020, 8:40 am
#150
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: W29
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Posts: 6,824
Is anyone following this roadmap? https://millionmilesecrets.com/guide...ts%20in%202021.
So, if I apply for the Hyatt card today and get approved today I would hit 10 elite nights, 5 for 2020 and 5 for 2021?
I was thinking about doing a mattress run to hit globalist as I can get into pretty cheap stays in the DC area of about $68/night. Very tempting, even for someone that doesn't stay at Hyatt properties a lot.
So, if I apply for the Hyatt card today and get approved today I would hit 10 elite nights, 5 for 2020 and 5 for 2021?
I was thinking about doing a mattress run to hit globalist as I can get into pretty cheap stays in the DC area of about $68/night. Very tempting, even for someone that doesn't stay at Hyatt properties a lot.