davevt98

Exactly - was trying to use all 4 certificates.

OsakaWino

Club upgrade is club upgrade, same as when using points for club upgrade; what is the confusion?

HHonors OUTSIDER

Agree completely. WoH really dropped the ball with the new mid tier level. Honors and Marriot/SPG are going to gain a lot of ex Gold Passport members. What WoH doesn't seem to get is after someone reaches 30 nights they expect them to go for 60 with the risk of falling short at lets say 50 nights without giving breakfast a long the way to the next tier?

RTW1

Unfortunately this was clear from the start.... the T&C's even state you need to apply the cert at the time of booking. If they enforce this, who knows.

But Exp status is really not worth pursuing.

Yul_voyager

I agree as well. HH / Marriott gives breakfast (for some brands, not every one however) to gold.

Rusdude

This has been known since the beginning and is explicitly stated in T&Cs. I've complained about this as well Given how many Hyatts don't have lounges, this is very disappointing indeed.

bmw303

Marriott gold is not lowly. Marriott Gold requires 50 nights (certain exceptions apply)

EDIT: I understand your point. As Globalist requires 60 nights, your point is that a 50 nighter at Marriott gets breakfast whereas a 50 nighter at Hyatt wont.

I'm surprised there isn't a little more uproar over these changes. When I was a Hyatt Diamond, the diamond amenity was one of my absolute favorite perks. Its amazing to look back a few years at the FFN, Amenity, etc., and fast forward to now.

Yul_voyager

Marriott Gold could be attained by 10 SPG stays.
And 50 nights in MR is certainly easier to attain than 60 or even 50 nights with hyatt (a lot more properties, cheaper properties, credit card nights, rollover nights...)

notquiteaff

I am a "double Gold" with Marriott. My wife is Marriott Gold and hasn't had a revenue stay in years (we credit to my account; she doesn't travel much on her own).

How?

US Amex Plat card give me SPG Gold, which matches to Marriott Gold.

We are both also UA Gold (via my Million Miler status), which through RewardsPlus matches to Marriott Gold.

These options to acquire status may not last forever, but while they have existed they have driven a lot of my money from Hyatt to Marriott.

I also have the Marriott Visa card, which reduces the number of nights required by 15 and credits an additional night for every $3k spend. Hyatt's Visa doesn't do either of these.

OsakaWino

Maybe much of this would be better in a Marriott thread.

rbw5t

Yup, I'm Marriott (and thus SPG) Gold through multiple avenues as well. When I was Hyatt Diamond (through stays, not nights) I obviously much preferred top tier Hyatt stays to Marriott gold stays. But now, as an Explorist, I'm really questioning whether to abandon Hyatt altogether in favor of Marriott/SPG. I do have sort of a sentimental attachment to Hyatt based on past experience, but I don't think that really will be enough to keep staying, when I get breakfast/lounge at Marriott and really nothing at Hyatt. I'll probably keep the nights I have planned for now and see how Explorist shakes out, but if I'm not getting regularly upgraded by properties beyond the terms of plan, than off to Marriott. (I feel like saying, "how boring", bc I really do prefer Hyatt to Marriott, but just can't justify giving up lounge/breakfast.)

Kacee

Agreed. The terms are clear. It's not a "free breakfast in the restaurant" coupon.

Whether Explorist is worth 30 nights or not is a completely different question.

MSPeconomist

Remember that we don't yet know the terms of the upcoming Starriott program either.

For many people, if you can plan most of your hotel stays to be with a single hotel family, it can be better to get top tier status with that hotel family than maintaining second level or lower status in two or more hotel families.

OsakaWino

wonderful, another post re SPG/Marriott

MSPeconomist

Sorry, but I was responding to post #26 above, which talks about SPG/Marriott status as well as Hyatt.