Nov 6, 2016, 5:33 am
World of Hyatt [Pre-Launch]
Jan 20, 2017, 7:39 am
#2701
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,158
Well I think WoH provides a lot of incentive ... incentive to go someplace else.
Jan 20, 2017, 7:58 am
#2702
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, AS 75k, AA Plat, Bonvoyed Gold, Honors Dia, Hyatt Explorer, IHG Plat, ...
Posts: 16,856
Jan 20, 2017, 8:42 am
#2703
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,752
If not, just turn the page. No big deal.
Jan 20, 2017, 9:14 am
#2704
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
The incentive seems to be to use points during the Glob year and max out that free parking on award stays Glob benefit without worrying about free nights not counting for status. For the following year, the incentive would be to qualify with 30 nights, of which one has four 7 night stays in places with good club lounges, and the other two nights in the cheapest possible Hyatts.
Jan 20, 2017, 10:34 am
#2705
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
This is one of the reasons that point burning will become a conflagration this year.
Jan 20, 2017, 3:50 pm
#2706
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Providence RI
Programs: American Exec Plat, Hyatt Refugeeist, Marriot Gold, Air Canada Cattle Class, Korean Air Morning Plat
Posts: 988
+1
Perhaps he is thinking about such high-end properties as the Hyatt Regency Rochester? I stayed there for a wedding recently and, as a Diamond with an upgraded room, I would've had a better experience by far at a Hampton Inn, where I did move after a couple of days (and for a much cheaper rate), and an equal experience at a Baymont Suites. In short, the HR Rochester is a dump with poorly-trained staff.
Perhaps he is thinking about such high-end properties as the Hyatt Regency Rochester? I stayed there for a wedding recently and, as a Diamond with an upgraded room, I would've had a better experience by far at a Hampton Inn, where I did move after a couple of days (and for a much cheaper rate), and an equal experience at a Baymont Suites. In short, the HR Rochester is a dump with poorly-trained staff.
Jan 20, 2017, 5:54 pm
#2707
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Texas
Programs: Hyatt Glob (Barely); Marriott Plat Life; AA Up and Down Now Plat; Hilton, UA, BA, HA Peasant
Posts: 2,669
Might have been more timely a few days ago when the discussion was really centered on similar content, but you may be interested in the attached link:
https://skift.com/2017/01/17/hyatt-c...eds-of-guests/
My career has been entirely in a different industry, but one with more and more varied players, with more of them coming and going. All but one stop ended when the employer was forced to drastically shrink or just plain went under chasing a flawed strategy.
My point being similar to what is noted immediately above. The average North American Hyatt FS is not in the premium market at all, despite what Hyatt seems to be telling themselves. Solid enough for the middle class vacation and business market, but the "money is no object" crowd has better choices. Hyatt mostly 3-star, a few 4-star, but many to most a bit tired and not aspirational. "Making them remodel" is more likely to just cause them to re-flag.
I don't see this strategy as being realistic let alone working.
https://skift.com/2017/01/17/hyatt-c...eds-of-guests/
My career has been entirely in a different industry, but one with more and more varied players, with more of them coming and going. All but one stop ended when the employer was forced to drastically shrink or just plain went under chasing a flawed strategy.
My point being similar to what is noted immediately above. The average North American Hyatt FS is not in the premium market at all, despite what Hyatt seems to be telling themselves. Solid enough for the middle class vacation and business market, but the "money is no object" crowd has better choices. Hyatt mostly 3-star, a few 4-star, but many to most a bit tired and not aspirational. "Making them remodel" is more likely to just cause them to re-flag.
I don't see this strategy as being realistic let alone working.
Jan 20, 2017, 6:50 pm
#2708
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,991
Might have been more timely a few days ago when the discussion was really centered on similar content, but you may be interested in the attached link:
https://skift.com/2017/01/17/hyatt-c...eds-of-guests/
My career has been entirely in a different industry, but one with more and more varied players, with more of them coming and going. All but one stop ended when the employer was forced to drastically shrink or just plain went under chasing a flawed strategy.
My point being similar to what is noted immediately above. The average North American Hyatt FS is not in the premium market at all, despite what Hyatt seems to be telling themselves. Solid enough for the middle class vacation and business market, but the "money is no object" crowd has better choices. Hyatt mostly 3-star, a few 4-star, but many to most a bit tired and not aspirational. "Making them remodel" is more likely to just cause them to re-flag.
I don't see this strategy as being realistic let alone working.
https://skift.com/2017/01/17/hyatt-c...eds-of-guests/
My career has been entirely in a different industry, but one with more and more varied players, with more of them coming and going. All but one stop ended when the employer was forced to drastically shrink or just plain went under chasing a flawed strategy.
My point being similar to what is noted immediately above. The average North American Hyatt FS is not in the premium market at all, despite what Hyatt seems to be telling themselves. Solid enough for the middle class vacation and business market, but the "money is no object" crowd has better choices. Hyatt mostly 3-star, a few 4-star, but many to most a bit tired and not aspirational. "Making them remodel" is more likely to just cause them to re-flag.
I don't see this strategy as being realistic let alone working.
Jan 20, 2017, 8:57 pm
#2709
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Agree and strongly feel there will be an "adjustment" coming, those that stay the course will be rewarded. He is correct 2016 was full of "knee jerk" reactions by various chains 2017 will see much less if not any, which frankly I am glad to see. As a FF that actually pays it's a relief.
Jan 21, 2017, 7:28 am
#2710
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Minnesota
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,101
Jan 21, 2017, 7:45 am
#2711
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
I'm not looking for engagement..... Provide me with decent benefits, make sure the properties provide them and make my stay good to great. But I guess that ship has passed.
Jan 21, 2017, 9:27 am
#2712
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,991
Jan 21, 2017, 12:01 pm
#2713
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Jan 22, 2017, 7:58 am
#2714
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,752
RE: Concierge benefit
Assume it's similar to the SPG one. Are all requalifying Diamonds eligible for this post March, or only those who re qualified with 60+ nights?
Assume it's similar to the SPG one. Are all requalifying Diamonds eligible for this post March, or only those who re qualified with 60+ nights?
Jan 22, 2017, 9:16 am
#2715
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,991
What mine told me on the phone that if I do not re qualify then it goes away. I have made the decision to stay with Hyatt for another two years as I plan on scaling back travel letting my up and comers to take more on.