Guide to and Questions Concerning Connecting thru HNL & other Hawai`i airports
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The first accepting carrier charges the bag fees. The receiving carrier (UAL) misses out.
Originally Posted by JenGal
I have read alot of this thread (great information ^) and tried a search re: my question. I found another post asking about the same, but didn't see an answer. I apologize if it's out there ... anyway:
Two of us will be doing a HNL-OGG-HNL trip on HA separate from our IAD(via LAX)-HNL-IAD itinerary on UA. We do the OGG-HNL on the day of our HNL-IAD flight. So, I understand that we should be able to interline our bags all the way to IAD. We will each have 1 checked bag, so we will each pay $10 to HA.
My question is this: I would not have to pay a UA checked bag fee, but my friend would as she is GM. For UA I can just check them both under my name for no cost, but if I do that with HA, the second bag is $17 instead of $10 that friend would pay if it was her first bag.
$7 is no big deal, but it made me think ... how do airlines that interline bags for flights on separate airlines and pnr's, charge for baggage fees on the other airlines? Seems UA would want to get its bag fee for HNL-IAD even if checked all the way in from OGG.
Two of us will be doing a HNL-OGG-HNL trip on HA separate from our IAD(via LAX)-HNL-IAD itinerary on UA. We do the OGG-HNL on the day of our HNL-IAD flight. So, I understand that we should be able to interline our bags all the way to IAD. We will each have 1 checked bag, so we will each pay $10 to HA.
My question is this: I would not have to pay a UA checked bag fee, but my friend would as she is GM. For UA I can just check them both under my name for no cost, but if I do that with HA, the second bag is $17 instead of $10 that friend would pay if it was her first bag.
$7 is no big deal, but it made me think ... how do airlines that interline bags for flights on separate airlines and pnr's, charge for baggage fees on the other airlines? Seems UA would want to get its bag fee for HNL-IAD even if checked all the way in from OGG.
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The first accepting carrier charges the bag fees. The receiving carrier (UAL) misses out.
The first accepting carrier charges the bag fees. The receiving carrier (UAL) misses out.
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Island Air short connection to UA
The guidance to my concern may be buried somewhere in the 33 pages of the Hawaii thread, but I can't seem to find a direct answer. So real quick...
I'm flying...
Lanai-HNL-ORD on a Saturday. (Island Air to United)
LNY-HNL: Lv: 3.35p, Ar: 4.05p
HNL-ORD: Lv: 5.07p
So I have a 62min layover to get from the (Island Air) Commuter terminal to the Main terminal (UA). I've learned that if I check bags all the way thru this may be possible if I stay in the "secure" area, but this being a Saturday and not really knowing the lay of the land in HNL, I'm worried this may be too tight of a connection.
Any guidance or comments here would be appreciated. Thanks!
I'm flying...
Lanai-HNL-ORD on a Saturday. (Island Air to United)
LNY-HNL: Lv: 3.35p, Ar: 4.05p
HNL-ORD: Lv: 5.07p
So I have a 62min layover to get from the (Island Air) Commuter terminal to the Main terminal (UA). I've learned that if I check bags all the way thru this may be possible if I stay in the "secure" area, but this being a Saturday and not really knowing the lay of the land in HNL, I'm worried this may be too tight of a connection.
Any guidance or comments here would be appreciated. Thanks!
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The guidance to my concern may be buried somewhere in the 33 pages of the Hawaii thread, but I can't seem to find a direct answer. So real quick...
I'm flying...
Lanai-HNL-ORD on a Saturday. (Island Air to United)
LNY-HNL: Lv: 3.35p, Ar: 4.05p
HNL-ORD: Lv: 5.07p
So I have a 62min layover to get from the (Island Air) Commuter terminal to the Main terminal (UA). I've learned that if I check bags all the way thru this may be possible if I stay in the "secure" area, but this being a Saturday and not really knowing the lay of the land in HNL, I'm worried this may be too tight of a connection.
Any guidance or comments here would be appreciated. Thanks!
I'm flying...
Lanai-HNL-ORD on a Saturday. (Island Air to United)
LNY-HNL: Lv: 3.35p, Ar: 4.05p
HNL-ORD: Lv: 5.07p
So I have a 62min layover to get from the (Island Air) Commuter terminal to the Main terminal (UA). I've learned that if I check bags all the way thru this may be possible if I stay in the "secure" area, but this being a Saturday and not really knowing the lay of the land in HNL, I'm worried this may be too tight of a connection.
Any guidance or comments here would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Bear in mind they will be boarding your Mainland flight roughly 40 mins prior to departure.... There will be a good chance that your seats will be awarded to standbys that are actually at the gate at that time.
Forget about the bags making it.(At least do an on-line check-in ...if you choose to do this connection)
If this was on the Inbound...different story....there is another Inter-Island flight every hour..... Not so...returning to the Mainland.
What is the cost of the change fee?
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Think you are asking if you can leave the airport--if so, yes, you'll just need to clear security when you return. The airport is in a light industry area so not a good place to walk around, but The Bus stops at the airport or you could take a taxi or rent a car.
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Yes, same requirements. TSA at HNL is not as strict as neighbor islands, but the full size sunscreen will not go through as a carry on. Sunscreen and lotions usually make up the bulk of what TSA confiscates. Think you would be okay if you put the sunscreen into the snack-size Ziploc bags.
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Connections in Honolulu
Hi,
I live in Argentina and booked with UA miles a flight from EZE to HNL via IAD and LAX. The flight arrives in HNL at 15:44. Then I needed to go to Maui that day and started to search intra-island flights and decided to fly with HA. As I live in Argentina I can't book through HA's web site so I asked a friend to book it with his credit card that live in the USA. The flight that I had chosen was leaving HNL to OGG at 18:09 the same day that I arrived from EZE-IAD-LAX. But that flight was not available and my friend w/o notice booked a flight departing at 17:38.
I want to know if I will have enough time to claim baggage from the international flight, check-in, drop baggage off and embark for the hawaiian flight or will I have to pay the USD 30 fee for changing the flight (USD 30 x 4 as we are 4 people)? If I change it for the one that leaves at 20:16 that be enough???
One more question: will I be able to check my bags through to my final destination from EZE as UA an HA have codeshare?
I live in Argentina and booked with UA miles a flight from EZE to HNL via IAD and LAX. The flight arrives in HNL at 15:44. Then I needed to go to Maui that day and started to search intra-island flights and decided to fly with HA. As I live in Argentina I can't book through HA's web site so I asked a friend to book it with his credit card that live in the USA. The flight that I had chosen was leaving HNL to OGG at 18:09 the same day that I arrived from EZE-IAD-LAX. But that flight was not available and my friend w/o notice booked a flight departing at 17:38.
I want to know if I will have enough time to claim baggage from the international flight, check-in, drop baggage off and embark for the hawaiian flight or will I have to pay the USD 30 fee for changing the flight (USD 30 x 4 as we are 4 people)? If I change it for the one that leaves at 20:16 that be enough???
One more question: will I be able to check my bags through to my final destination from EZE as UA an HA have codeshare?
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If you're within 24 hrs of the HA booking, I would have your friend call back, cancel and start over to avoid the change fee.
You will be probably be unable to check your bags through because the HA segments will be on separate tickets.
Upon arrival in IAD, you'll need to clear US customs/immigration - make sure you have LOTS of time built into this connection (like 3-4 hours), and even more time built into the LAX connection just in case.
Upon arrival in HNL, you will be claiming your bags at domestic baggage claim (all flights from IAD onwards are domestic for you, not international), taking the outdoor Wiki-wiki Shuttle to the inter-island terminal, then re-checking in with HA.
I would build in enough time for the last possible HA connection to OGG. Just curious - why didn't you book UA from EZE-IAD-LAX-OGG?
You will be probably be unable to check your bags through because the HA segments will be on separate tickets.
Upon arrival in IAD, you'll need to clear US customs/immigration - make sure you have LOTS of time built into this connection (like 3-4 hours), and even more time built into the LAX connection just in case.
Upon arrival in HNL, you will be claiming your bags at domestic baggage claim (all flights from IAD onwards are domestic for you, not international), taking the outdoor Wiki-wiki Shuttle to the inter-island terminal, then re-checking in with HA.
I would build in enough time for the last possible HA connection to OGG. Just curious - why didn't you book UA from EZE-IAD-LAX-OGG?
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If you're within 24 hrs of the HA booking, I would have your friend call back, cancel and start over to avoid the change fee.
You will be probably be unable to check your bags through because the HA segments will be on separate tickets.
Upon arrival in IAD, you'll need to clear US customs/immigration - make sure you have LOTS of time built into this connection (like 3-4 hours), and even more time built into the LAX connection just in case.
Upon arrival in HNL, you will be claiming your bags at domestic baggage claim (all flights from IAD onwards are domestic for you, not international), taking the outdoor Wiki-wiki Shuttle to the inter-island terminal, then re-checking in with HA.
I would build in enough time for the last possible HA connection to OGG. Just curious - why didn't you book UA from EZE-IAD-LAX-OGG?
You will be probably be unable to check your bags through because the HA segments will be on separate tickets.
Upon arrival in IAD, you'll need to clear US customs/immigration - make sure you have LOTS of time built into this connection (like 3-4 hours), and even more time built into the LAX connection just in case.
Upon arrival in HNL, you will be claiming your bags at domestic baggage claim (all flights from IAD onwards are domestic for you, not international), taking the outdoor Wiki-wiki Shuttle to the inter-island terminal, then re-checking in with HA.
I would build in enough time for the last possible HA connection to OGG. Just curious - why didn't you book UA from EZE-IAD-LAX-OGG?
Second, why would someone on two separate tickets not be able to check bags all the way through? Shouldn't UA's interline agreement with HA allow the bags through? That's if the check-in agent at EZE knows how to do this, and I'd imagine she would.
This allows the OP to skip baggage claim in HNL and proceed directly to the interisland gate. A nearly two hour connection should be good enough, if that is indeed the case.
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Second, why would someone on two separate tickets not be able to check bags all the way through? Shouldn't UA's interline agreement with HA allow the bags through? That's if the check-in agent at EZE knows how to do this, and I'd imagine she would.
This allows the OP to skip baggage claim in HNL and proceed directly to the interisland gate. A nearly two hour connection should be good enough, if that is indeed the case.
This allows the OP to skip baggage claim in HNL and proceed directly to the interisland gate. A nearly two hour connection should be good enough, if that is indeed the case.
I guess the OP can try this at EZE, and if rejected, try again at IAD when they re-check their bags after Customs - but I still think they should plan for the longest possible connection time (especially at IAD). If they can check-through, perhaps they can try standing by for an early OGG flight.
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The complete itinerary is as follows: EZE-IAD-LAX-HNL-OGG (stop)-HNL (stop)-LAX (stop)-IAD-EZE.
The trip is on July so I've plenty of time to make any change.
Sorry, but what I didn't understand is in which HNL's terminal will my UA LAX-HNL flight arrive and form which termianl will I depart from for my HA HNL-OGG flight
1)If I can check my bags all the way through to OGG, is 1 hour, 54 minutes connection time enough to make for the HA flight?
2) If I can't check my bags to OGG, how much do I need to make the connection (claim bags, check-in, etc)?
The trip is on July so I've plenty of time to make any change.
Sorry, but what I didn't understand is in which HNL's terminal will my UA LAX-HNL flight arrive and form which termianl will I depart from for my HA HNL-OGG flight
1)If I can check my bags all the way through to OGG, is 1 hour, 54 minutes connection time enough to make for the HA flight?
2) If I can't check my bags to OGG, how much do I need to make the connection (claim bags, check-in, etc)?
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I'm fairly certain they have a 24h policy. I've called them on it before when I needed to make change, but since I was past the 24hr, they told me I was out of luck and mentioned the limit - so I believe there is a grace period for changes at HA.
I thought you could only check bags through on a single ticket - not if your ticket is split and covers different airlines. I could understand a single ticket that includes segments on UA and HA, but two different tickets?
I guess the OP can try this at EZE, and if rejected, try again at IAD when they re-check their bags after Customs - but I still think they should plan for the longest possible connection time (especially at IAD). If they can check-through, perhaps they can try standing by for an early OGG flight.
Please point to something that says it's a written policy. I'm all ears as it'd be the first I've heard of it.
As for interlining bags, yes it does not matter that there are two separate tickets. It only matters that the two airlines have an interlining agreement in place at the connecting airport. HA and UA have such an agreement at HNL.
Originally Posted by bocastephen
Second, why would someone on two separate tickets not be able to check bags all the way through? Shouldn't UA's interline agreement with HA allow the bags through? That's if the check-in agent at EZE knows how to do this, and I'd imagine she would.
This allows the OP to skip baggage claim in HNL and proceed directly to the interisland gate. A nearly two hour connection should be good enough, if that is indeed the case.
This allows the OP to skip baggage claim in HNL and proceed directly to the interisland gate. A nearly two hour connection should be good enough, if that is indeed the case.
I guess the OP can try this at EZE, and if rejected, try again at IAD when they re-check their bags after Customs - but I still think they should plan for the longest possible connection time (especially at IAD). If they can check-through, perhaps they can try standing by for an early OGG flight.
As for interlining bags, yes it does not matter that there are two separate tickets. It only matters that the two airlines have an interlining agreement in place at the connecting airport. HA and UA have such an agreement at HNL.