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HA's official web page on the lie flats

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Oct 18, 2017, 12:48 pm

#796

boliver7

Join Date: Jul 2016

Posts: 14

Great info here, thanks for putting it together. I booked OGG-HNL-LAX 2 weeks ago on HA4 for 11/20 - high probability route. Now I see that OGG-LAX direct will be the new lie flat by then guaranteed, and it's $30 cheaper than I paid. Should've waited to book!

Oct 18, 2017, 1:12 pm

#797

azj

Join Date: Mar 2002

Posts: 2,576

Quote:

Originally Posted by boliver7

Of course... all of this is dependent on the planes coming out of the modification on schedule. I just found the dates based on the seatmaps, it seems flight 4 is pretty consistently lie flat.

Oct 20, 2017, 10:34 am

#798

jetsetter777

Join Date: Jun 2001

Posts: 1,074

I'm contemplating buying F tix between JFK-HNL for April 2018. Currently the HA website shows the old recliner seats on flights between those two cities. Will I be guaranteed lie flats by then? This is a special occasion big splurge and I really would only pull the trigger if it was lie-flat!

Mahalo

Oct 20, 2017, 11:05 am

#799

747FC

Join Date: Jan 2013

Location: Hawai'i Nei

Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE

Posts: 7,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter777

Yes. Have you happened to look at the Wiki above? The Wiki has all the information you desire.

Oct 20, 2017, 7:08 pm

#800

Kumulani

Join Date: Jun 2015

Location: BOS

Programs: AA EXP

Posts: 479

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter777

You're not *guaranteed* lie-flats unless your seats are sold as such. That said, as the Wiki says all planes are scheduled to be completed by February, so your chances of getting lie-flats are extremely high. However, there's always the remote possibility that something could go wrong that would delay the conversions.

Oct 27, 2017, 10:54 pm

#801

azj

Join Date: Mar 2002

Posts: 2,576

391 is out of mod and re-entering service on 28th. 375 is up next.

Oct 28, 2017, 3:15 pm

#802

Kumulani

Join Date: Jun 2015

Location: BOS

Programs: AA EXP

Posts: 479

OAK no longer appears to be high priority. I removed it from the wiki.

Oct 28, 2017, 5:26 pm

#803

747FC

Join Date: Jan 2013

Location: Hawai'i Nei

Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE

Posts: 7,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumulani

OAK no longer appears to be high priority. I removed it from the wiki.

NEO321, here we come...

Oct 28, 2017, 10:27 pm

#804

azj

Join Date: Mar 2002

Posts: 2,576

Quote:

Originally Posted by 747FC

NEO321, here we come...

OAK-OGG/LIH are already announced 321, if KOA returns I would imagine it will be as well. HNL however, could likely remain 330.

Nov 8, 2017, 12:17 am

#805

mrpippy

Join Date: Oct 2015

Location: SNA/LGB/LAX

Posts: 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by azj

391 is out of mod and re-entering service on 28th. 375 is up next.

Looks like 375 is finished, although it had an engine fire on landing during its PAE->SEA ferry flight.

There's some videos taken by passengers floating around, and from HA twitter:

Quote:

UPDATE: An A330 ferry flight from PAE to SEA experienced a left engine issue on final approach at SEA tonight. A left engine fire reported upon landing was extinguished. There were no passengers onboard, and the two pilots were unharmed. The aircraft is currently being inspected.

Nov 8, 2017, 7:58 pm

#806

Kumulani

Join Date: Jun 2015

Location: BOS

Programs: AA EXP

Posts: 479

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrpippy

Looks like 375 is finished, although it had an engine fire on landing during its PAE->SEA ferry flight.

There's some videos taken by passengers floating around, and from HA twitter:

Thanks for the update. 383 is the next aircraft that will be converted and has arrived at Everett. I have edited the wiki.

Nov 8, 2017, 10:32 pm

#807

Paul510

Join Date: Oct 2014

Location: SF Bay Area

Programs: UA - Silver, Hertz-5 star

Posts: 217

HNL-OAK on 03-22-18

Hi-

I'm on HA 332 from HNL-OAK on 03-22-18, seat map showed old configuration when booking but it sounds like all conversions will be done by my flight.

Thanks for keeping this wiki up to date.

-Paul

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Nov 13, 2017, 7:45 pm

#808

hawaii777

Join Date: Nov 2003

Posts: 187

Does anyone happen to know if there is any compensation provided when a non-lie flat plane is substituted on a “guaranteed” route? A co-worker flew to Haneda earlier this month in paid Business Class from/to Kona and in both directions she got a non-converted plane.

Nov 14, 2017, 3:37 pm

#809

PDX37

Join Date: Dec 2000

Location: OGG

Programs: UA 1K PM/MM, HA Plat 75k+

Posts: 18

Incheon....

YAY....finally, Incheon looks like dedicated aircraft with the retrofit. Its been a while coming and actually a few days earlier than this thread suggested. So happy to get some sleep.

Nov 14, 2017, 7:14 pm

#810

azj

Join Date: Mar 2002

Posts: 2,576

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawaii777

The term "guaranteed" probably shouldn't have been used here. HA doesn't guarantee lie flat seats but sells the market as such. With all things at an airline, logistics can get in the way and what was expected may not happen. From what I understand, every effort is made to prevent a lie flat route from seeing the old recliners. There was a little bit of schedule disruption when a/c 375 had its engine issue last week, I suspect there were some knock on effects by that. This situation can also be similar to when a 767 substitutes for a 330 or vice versa.

I'm not sure what the official policy is in your colleagues situation, but it can't hurt to contact consumer affairs and ask.

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