Aloha Airlines Ceases All Passenger Operations Beginning April 1, 2008
Mar 31, 2008, 2:30 pm
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Found out about this last night while working BOS-OAK. When we arrived in OAK the hotel van driver asked if we would wait for the KOA-OAK flight. We rode back to the hotel with the Aloha crew. A couple where trying to figure out what they where going to do now. We talked with them and took pictures. They are a wonderful bunch of people and I wish them the best, sad sad day.
Mar 31, 2008, 2:33 pm
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Yeah, me too. That's why AQ is being gone forever. What's exactly they will gonna do for searching which specific good airlines will be there in Hawaii? Do they think will moved up more frequencies flight from HNL-USA mainland? Perhaps, WN will be coming to Hawaii. They will take care of it from AQ. I would assumed if WN will have announcements begin new service to Hawaii. I'm ensure if WN will have chance for training with overwater ETOPS restrictions. They need to get own liferafts and lifevest, too.
Mar 31, 2008, 2:51 pm
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This is very nice of HA, and they are doing some other helpful things, too, such as offering free standby travel. Too bad they're not honoring AQ FF miles. (That would be expecting way too much, I'm sure.) I know a guy who has over 200,000 AQ miles, mainly thanks to credit card charges. He is quite upset, but unless somebody very generous buys the name and/or remnants of the PAX business and resurrects it, the FF holders appear out of luck. Has anyone been successful in getting anything today for miles?
Hate to lose our miles but that's nothing compared to those out of work
Mar 31, 2008, 3:03 pm
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It's all very sad. News was slow to get to QWU....
A coworker has over 300,000, and it's from BIS. I told him 6 months ago to start using those miles.... Ouch....
That's the last thing we need, let's not speculate that WN will come out here. Ugh.
While I am deeply saddened by AQ's passenger service demise, I really hope that this gives WP a chance at things again. AQ was niche-y on their transpacs, and WP is kind of niche-y in the i/i market. Too bad they don't have any extra aircraft anymore. I wonder how many strings they'd have to pull to get a couple Q400's back(or accquired by another means) ASAP. Come on interisland steve!! Pull something off!
I think the best fit to replace the profitable routes is AS. I'm not a fan, but I suspect they will give this a hard look.
This is very nice of HA, and they are doing some other helpful things, too, such as offering free standby travel. Too bad they're not honoring AQ FF miles. (That would be expecting way too much, I'm sure.) I know a guy who has over 200,000 AQ miles, mainly thanks to credit card charges. He is quite upset, but unless somebody very generous buys the name and/or remnants of the PAX business and resurrects it, the FF holders appear out of luck. Has anyone been successful in getting anything today for miles?
Yeah, me too. That's why AQ is being gone forever. What's exactly they will gonna do for searching which specific good airlines will be there in Hawaii? Do they think will moved up more frequencies flight from HNL-USA mainland? Perhaps, WN will be coming to Hawaii. They will take care of it from AQ. I would assumed if WN will have announcements begin new service to Hawaii. I'm ensure if WN will have chance for training with overwater ETOPS restrictions. They need to get own liferafts and lifevest, too.
While I am deeply saddened by AQ's passenger service demise, I really hope that this gives WP a chance at things again. AQ was niche-y on their transpacs, and WP is kind of niche-y in the i/i market. Too bad they don't have any extra aircraft anymore. I wonder how many strings they'd have to pull to get a couple Q400's back(or accquired by another means) ASAP. Come on interisland steve!! Pull something off!
I think the best fit to replace the profitable routes is AS. I'm not a fan, but I suspect they will give this a hard look.
Last edited by Ripper3785; Mar 31, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Mar 31, 2008, 3:25 pm
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WN already has an agreement with TZ to handle flights from the mainland to Hawaii, and there has been noise about TZ possibly cutting back on those because of fuel costs. As far as interisland, N830MH pointed out the things WN would have to do differently (lifejackets and all that), and WN has shown no interest in flying anywhere that requires modifications to its business model (no flights to Canada or Mexico, for example). So I don't really see WN (or anyone) entirely filling the gap left by AQ in the immediate future. HA and YV have both announced they'll add flights, which will replace about 60% of the seats AQ had provided.
Mar 31, 2008, 5:10 pm
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See the first post. Unfortunately, AQ will only honor bookings if you fly today. The incredible number of miles lost (generally speaking), is incredibly sad as well.
On the whole, the market wasn't meant for 3 inter-island airlines, so another airline coming in might not happen if HA/YV make up 60% of what was lost by AQ's exit.
On the whole, the market wasn't meant for 3 inter-island airlines, so another airline coming in might not happen if HA/YV make up 60% of what was lost by AQ's exit.
Mar 31, 2008, 5:19 pm
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For those flying WP in the next few weeks:
Originally Posted by www.islandair.com
Q. How is Island Air affected by Aloha Airlines' closing?
A. If you are departing on an Island Air flight out of Kahului (Maui), Kona, Hilo, or Lihue, please check in at Hawaiian Airlines' ticket counters. Because of anticipated crowds at Hawaiian Airlines, please check in at least 90 minutes prior to departure. Or, to save time, use our new, updated web check-in (on the left side of this screen). If you are flying in to Kahului (Maui), Kona, Hilo, or Lihue, please pick up your bags at the Hawaiian Airlines baggage claim.
A. If you are departing on an Island Air flight out of Kahului (Maui), Kona, Hilo, or Lihue, please check in at Hawaiian Airlines' ticket counters. Because of anticipated crowds at Hawaiian Airlines, please check in at least 90 minutes prior to departure. Or, to save time, use our new, updated web check-in (on the left side of this screen). If you are flying in to Kahului (Maui), Kona, Hilo, or Lihue, please pick up your bags at the Hawaiian Airlines baggage claim.
Mar 31, 2008, 5:19 pm
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We were too. Thanks for the link to the video, it really does remind me of all the wonderful Aloha employees over the years from my first trip to Maui with my grandma (back when she used to drive), through high school trips for competitions and such that I can barely recall, going to Kauai with my dad to see where he grew up, bringing the new GF home to meet the family and see the islands, along with various and sundry other family trips in between.
Mar 31, 2008, 5:31 pm
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UA Mileage to fly on Aloha
I had a confirmation on Aloha flights for June and July using UA Mileage Plus miles. I called UA this morning and was able to book with Hawaiian pending 12 hour wait to confirm. My confirmation now shows zero detail. The Indian call center agents are telling me various things. One agent told me to call Hawaiian, who said they don't have us booked on those flights. Another told me UA doesn't have partnership with Hawaiian and I should cancel everything to get my booking fees and miles credited. The Hawaiian fares I am supposed to be on have risen since this morning.
Mar 31, 2008, 6:21 pm
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WN already has an agreement with TZ to handle flights from the mainland to Hawaii, and there has been noise about TZ possibly cutting back on those because of fuel costs. As far as interisland, N830MH pointed out the things WN would have to do differently (lifejackets and all that), and WN has shown no interest in flying anywhere that requires modifications to its business model (no flights to Canada or Mexico, for example). So I don't really see WN (or anyone) entirely filling the gap left by AQ in the immediate future. HA and YV have both announced they'll add flights, which will replace about 60% of the seats AQ had provided.
Mar 31, 2008, 7:32 pm
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Reading some of the comments left by online readers of the Advertiser and Star-Bulletin, let's just say AQ isn't getting much love. Unfortunately I think those same people on those boards who are standing up for go! and their fares and blasting AQ will be the first ones to moan and groan once fares return to more rational levels and go!'s service becomes a mirror of their mainland ops. They're probably not as informed as we are on the matter, either that or they purposely neglect Mesa's tactics so as long as they can save a few bucks on the next ticket. 
Mar 31, 2008, 7:36 pm
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Regarding possible fare increases, a lot of us mainlanders have been using UA's 5000 mile Aloha reward for interisland flights (particularly those between neighboring islands where the fares have remained relatively high during the recent fare wars). That award is still available on Island Air, so it's worth considering -- especially if fares rise.
As far as what the fares should be, I'd be surprised if the lowest buckets get much above $49. Sure, fuel is expensive, but we're talking VERY short flights here. I'd bet WN would have plenty of $35 fares -- and make money -- if they operated in Hawaii.
As far as what the fares should be, I'd be surprised if the lowest buckets get much above $49. Sure, fuel is expensive, but we're talking VERY short flights here. I'd bet WN would have plenty of $35 fares -- and make money -- if they operated in Hawaii.
Mar 31, 2008, 7:42 pm
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Regarding possible fare increases, a lot of us mainlanders have been using UA's 5000 mile Aloha reward for interisland flights (particularly those between neighboring islands where the fares have remained relatively high during the recent fare wars). That award is still available on Island Air, so it's worth considering -- especially if fares rise.
Mar 31, 2008, 7:55 pm
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I understand your point. It's like picking the lesser of two evils, per se.