Caesars (Total Rewards) Diamond Status from FoundersCard
#421
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA | CLT, formerly LHR & AMS (with just a bit of PSP)
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, BonVoy Titanium, (soon former) Caesars7*, (former) Wynn Black, HR "Icon"
Posts: 8,172
The "catch" is that Caesars does not renew with FoundersCard until December 2016 or January 2017. Is it a guarantee, NO. Is it highly likely, yes.
So, in essence, your membership purchased NOW should be good until 31 January 2018. But, that is contingent on Caesars renewing the program with FoundersCard.
This isn't just limited to Caesars. Same deal with Hilton or any of the other membership features. They are all renewed on a yearly basis.
Unfortunately, nobody can guarantee the renewal of Caesars in the FoundersCard program. But, it's been consistent for the past few years...
Perhaps, you have to decide if you want to "roll the dice."
#422
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston
Programs: UA Silver, IHG Plat AMB, Hertz Pres. Circle, Avis Presidents Club; Caesars Diamond Plus
Posts: 641
If you join NOW, your Caesars status is valid until end of this expiry year, which is 31 January 2017. BUT, if Caesars renews with FoundersCard your membership will be extended (valid) until 31 January 2018.
The "catch" is that Caesars does not renew with FoundersCard until December 2016 or January 2017. Is it a guarantee, NO. Is it highly likely, yes.
So, in essence, your membership purchased NOW should be good until 31 January 2018. But, that is contingent on Caesars renewing the program with FoundersCard.
This isn't just limited to Caesars. Same deal with Hilton or any of the other membership features. They are all renewed on a yearly basis.
Unfortunately, nobody can guarantee the renewal of Caesars in the FoundersCard program. But, it's been consistent for the past few years...
Perhaps, you have to decide if you want to "roll the dice."
The "catch" is that Caesars does not renew with FoundersCard until December 2016 or January 2017. Is it a guarantee, NO. Is it highly likely, yes.
So, in essence, your membership purchased NOW should be good until 31 January 2018. But, that is contingent on Caesars renewing the program with FoundersCard.
This isn't just limited to Caesars. Same deal with Hilton or any of the other membership features. They are all renewed on a yearly basis.
Unfortunately, nobody can guarantee the renewal of Caesars in the FoundersCard program. But, it's been consistent for the past few years...
Perhaps, you have to decide if you want to "roll the dice."
Thank you
#423
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA | CLT, formerly LHR & AMS (with just a bit of PSP)
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, BonVoy Titanium, (soon former) Caesars7*, (former) Wynn Black, HR "Icon"
Posts: 8,172
#424
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold / Million miler
Posts: 297
As far as Total Rewards' expiration dates, I assume that their policy is similar to Mlife's. (Ironically), Mlife's "year" expires every Sept. 30. Every card they issue expires on Sept. 30...of SOME year.
According to the terms and conditions of Mlife's program, verbatim: <<If you advance to a higher tier at any time, you’ll enjoy those benefits for at least one full year.>>
So, if you do upgrade, your new, higher-tier-card, will expire in the following year; unless...you upgrade during October, November or December, in which case it will expire on Sept. 30, TWO years ahead of the current year.
Naturally, Murphy's Law, I used my new Hyatt credit card to move up to Gold In Mlife last April at the MGM Grand. They gave me my new card...and the expiration said Sept. 30, 2016. I showed them their policy in writing, and said "it should expire in 2017," and they said something to the effect of "well, that's what the computer printed out, and we can't override it." After quite some time of yelling and screaming and using bad language, I realized they were not going to change it, so I just walked away, went to Aria's Mlife booth, gave them my card, and essentially said: "I just moved up a tier and I think my card should say '2017' on it"...and they simply gave me a new one...with an expiration date of of 9/30/17.
Again, I would imagine that Total Rewards has a similar "upgrade/expiration" policy. Does anyone know when Total Rewards "year" expires ?
According to the terms and conditions of Mlife's program, verbatim: <<If you advance to a higher tier at any time, you’ll enjoy those benefits for at least one full year.>>
So, if you do upgrade, your new, higher-tier-card, will expire in the following year; unless...you upgrade during October, November or December, in which case it will expire on Sept. 30, TWO years ahead of the current year.
Naturally, Murphy's Law, I used my new Hyatt credit card to move up to Gold In Mlife last April at the MGM Grand. They gave me my new card...and the expiration said Sept. 30, 2016. I showed them their policy in writing, and said "it should expire in 2017," and they said something to the effect of "well, that's what the computer printed out, and we can't override it." After quite some time of yelling and screaming and using bad language, I realized they were not going to change it, so I just walked away, went to Aria's Mlife booth, gave them my card, and essentially said: "I just moved up a tier and I think my card should say '2017' on it"...and they simply gave me a new one...with an expiration date of of 9/30/17.
Again, I would imagine that Total Rewards has a similar "upgrade/expiration" policy. Does anyone know when Total Rewards "year" expires ?
#425
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA | CLT, formerly LHR & AMS (with just a bit of PSP)
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, BonVoy Titanium, (soon former) Caesars7*, (former) Wynn Black, HR "Icon"
Posts: 8,172
b) I don't find Total Rewards to parallel Mlife that much, in all the years I have been following. I would not make assumptions about Total Rewards based on Mlife. That is similar to making assumptions about Delta SkyMiles based on Miles&More.
c) The FoundersCard upgrade program has always been a contractural program that is not often exactly the same as "earning" Diamond status. My comments above about year and date have been based on the past few years experience, and the fact this question comes up every year.
#432
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Founders Card
Posts: 119
You get points for referring people to FC. Those points can be converted to gift cards. I don't care for the pyramid scheme aspect of the card. That's why so many links to people trying to get you to sign up for the "discount". Regardless of what is said, $395 is the standard rate, the $295 is for two years in advance.
#434
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tex
Posts: 5
Agreed that the $395 is normal rate but if you are signing up anyway why not let someone get a perk out of it? It doesn't cost a new member any extra or in any way affect their account. Why not copy and paste?
Last edited by donk7; Oct 19, 2016 at 8:58 am