Last edit by: SonicStar817
New cabin on:
333 LTM LTO LTP LTR LTS LTT LTU (C28W21Y230)
359:
LWB (C43W24Y211)
LWC (C43W24Y211)
LWD (C43W24Y211)
LWE (C43W24Y211)
LWF (C43W24Y211)
LWG (C43W24Y211)
LWH (C43W24Y211)
LWI (C30W26Y265)
LWK (C30W26Y265)
LWL (C30W26Y265)
LWM (C43W24Y211)
LWN (C30W26Y265)
LWO (C30W26Y265)
LWP (C30W26Y265)
LWR (C30W26Y265)
LWS (C30W26Y265)
Routes with "guaranteed" new cabin W23–24 (29OCT23 onwards):
BKK (AY141/142), DFW (AY19/20), DEL (AY121/122), DOH (AY1981/1982, AY1983/1984, AY1985/1986), HKG (AY99/100), JFK (AY15/AY16), SIN (AY131/132), HND (AY61/62)
333 LTM LTO LTP LTR LTS LTT LTU (C28W21Y230)
359:
LWB (C43W24Y211)
LWC (C43W24Y211)
LWD (C43W24Y211)
LWE (C43W24Y211)
LWF (C43W24Y211)
LWG (C43W24Y211)
LWH (C43W24Y211)
LWI (C30W26Y265)
LWK (C30W26Y265)
LWL (C30W26Y265)
LWM (C43W24Y211)
LWN (C30W26Y265)
LWO (C30W26Y265)
LWP (C30W26Y265)
LWR (C30W26Y265)
LWS (C30W26Y265)
Routes with "guaranteed" new cabin W23–24 (29OCT23 onwards):
BKK (AY141/142), DFW (AY19/20), DEL (AY121/122), DOH (AY1981/1982, AY1983/1984, AY1985/1986), HKG (AY99/100), JFK (AY15/AY16), SIN (AY131/132), HND (AY61/62)
New Finnair Longhaul cabin coming January 2022
#676
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,182
The seat is designed for people with sustainable bodies!
#677
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,757
#678
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sweden
Programs: Oneworld Emerald, EBG
Posts: 249
I really liked the seat on my journey to SIN but was quite 🤬that the entertainment-system didn’t work for the total duration of the flight.
The food was good and the crew was very relaxed with face masks.
The food was good and the crew was very relaxed with face masks.
#679
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Keskellä metsää
Programs: Onko teillä S-etukorttia?
Posts: 918
Just arrived in SIN bout 1h ago.
Positive:
I did manage to find a "lounging position" that was good.
Wireless charging.
Neutral:
Food was better than before, but if the same menu sticks around for 6months... And also a great idea would be that for the midnight departures, after takeoff do the light meal and save the "bigger" meal for after people wake up. At 01:30 serving beef cheeks and red wine is not the greatest idea.
Negative:
WTH is the so called mattress? I was expecting atleast 1 inch thick foam, but there was a blanket instead that didnt stay in place.
My body is not made to get up from this seat mid sleep and go to toilet. Was a struggle.
Sleeping belt is too tight.
IFE shut down and rebooted on its own 4 times.
All in all i still think im slightly positive, but just very slightly.
No Lumo recognition at all. Singaporean crew was efficient.
Lounge ran out of food. There was just one pan available.
Positive:
I did manage to find a "lounging position" that was good.
Wireless charging.
Neutral:
Food was better than before, but if the same menu sticks around for 6months... And also a great idea would be that for the midnight departures, after takeoff do the light meal and save the "bigger" meal for after people wake up. At 01:30 serving beef cheeks and red wine is not the greatest idea.
Negative:
WTH is the so called mattress? I was expecting atleast 1 inch thick foam, but there was a blanket instead that didnt stay in place.
My body is not made to get up from this seat mid sleep and go to toilet. Was a struggle.
Sleeping belt is too tight.
IFE shut down and rebooted on its own 4 times.
All in all i still think im slightly positive, but just very slightly.
No Lumo recognition at all. Singaporean crew was efficient.
Lounge ran out of food. There was just one pan available.
Last edited by Jorma; May 24, 2022 at 5:13 am
#680
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: MIA
Programs: AY+ Gold
Posts: 248
I had the new J cabin experience on the way back from JFK a few days ago. I found the seat very comfortable for normal seating, lounging and sleeping. Agree with the thoughts that the "mattress" is little more than a blanket. Something with a bit of memory foam or latex would go a long way to improve this, maybe a strap to hold it in place.
As for the food, I ordered my usual "Asian Vegetarian" meal. Since there is no menu for flights not departing from HEL I didn't want to chance that I couldn't eat what was on offer. Unfortunately, this was the worst (including in Y) Asian vegetarian meals that I've had. Bland and both the main and 2nd meal were basically the same. Just the first was larger and served with rice. A very uninspired mess of roasted vegetables and some tofu. The lack of a printed menu on board, even if only for wine and drinks is also just a big miss IMO.
As for the food, I ordered my usual "Asian Vegetarian" meal. Since there is no menu for flights not departing from HEL I didn't want to chance that I couldn't eat what was on offer. Unfortunately, this was the worst (including in Y) Asian vegetarian meals that I've had. Bland and both the main and 2nd meal were basically the same. Just the first was larger and served with rice. A very uninspired mess of roasted vegetables and some tofu. The lack of a printed menu on board, even if only for wine and drinks is also just a big miss IMO.
#681
Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: AY+ Lumo, HH Diamond
Posts: 503
For me sleeping is bad in the new seat. I slept better in economy exit row, where the space is much larger than the new J anyway. Must conform to the seat which enforces the sleeping position and side. With two mattresses it's comfortable as far as softness goes.
Dirty foams visible.
No power sockets. Just two weak USB ports.
Food delicious.
Difficult to get out of the seat (and impossible to return) when tucked in under blankets, table extended and full of food - ended up spilling drinks.
My experience wasn't made better by the first thing that came out of the FA's mouth when boarding was a rude "point that air vent somewhere else". The first thing could also have been a greeting, welcome on board, offer to bring drinks, and a Plat recognition. None of that. Apparently there are forbidden directions of airvents to blow into. Later in the flight she also lowered the window shutters just reaching over me without asking, and brought me wrong food (lack of attention to SPML lists). When I said excuse me, she just said it's to prevent the sun over the Atlantic. Ok, then. Chief Purser did not come to greet and delegated all service to the other FAs. A really bad crew.
Dirty foams visible.
No power sockets. Just two weak USB ports.
Food delicious.
Difficult to get out of the seat (and impossible to return) when tucked in under blankets, table extended and full of food - ended up spilling drinks.
My experience wasn't made better by the first thing that came out of the FA's mouth when boarding was a rude "point that air vent somewhere else". The first thing could also have been a greeting, welcome on board, offer to bring drinks, and a Plat recognition. None of that. Apparently there are forbidden directions of airvents to blow into. Later in the flight she also lowered the window shutters just reaching over me without asking, and brought me wrong food (lack of attention to SPML lists). When I said excuse me, she just said it's to prevent the sun over the Atlantic. Ok, then. Chief Purser did not come to greet and delegated all service to the other FAs. A really bad crew.
#684
Join Date: Feb 2022
Programs: QRPC, BAEC
Posts: 683
My experience wasn't made better by the first thing that came out of the FA's mouth when boarding was a rude "point that air vent somewhere else". The first thing could also have been a greeting, welcome on board, offer to bring drinks, and a Plat recognition. None of that. Apparently there are forbidden directions of airvents to blow into. Later in the flight she also lowered the window shutters just reaching over me without asking, and brought me wrong food (lack of attention to SPML lists). When I said excuse me, she just said it's to prevent the sun over the Atlantic. Ok, then. Chief Purser did not come to greet and delegated all service to the other FAs. A really bad crew.
#689
Join Date: Nov 2016
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 457
Flying from Singapore in a few days (A350 new cabin) and we have 10D/H booked (front row of the mini-cabin), and I would be interested to know whether these seats have bigger footwell areas?
#690
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), TK Elite (*G), BT VIP, HH D, BW DS
Posts: 484
First experience of the new seats on a brand new aircraft (OH-LWS). Overall experience very positive, but here are some observations:
- Foot cubicles more roomy than on the cirrus seats, non-bulkhead seats also seemed a little longer in length in bed mode than the cirrus ones
- Wireless charging is great
- Sleeping on either side seems technically possible, but sleeping facing away from the seat, it's not particularly comfortable, thanks to the curvature of the seat shell in front
- IFE seems quite a bit better than the old system, the UI is quite nice, although mine randomly rebooted and failed to start up after touching ground
- Table a little flimsy, but works
- Very much enjoyed setting the seat into bed mode and then using it similarly as one would a sofa, very comfortable
- Great privacy
- Very much like the design and finishes
- Thanks to the positioning of the middle seat pair, it's actually possible to interact with your traveling companion, vs. the old seats