Iberia wetlease MAD-HEL-MAD
Aug 7, 2021, 5:21 am
#31
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IBERIA TO OPERATE FINNAIR BARCELONA AND MADRID FLIGHTS AS OF 16 AUGUST 2021
To support Finnair’s re-build in the difficult market situation, Finnair has found a cost-efficient way to operate BCN (start 16AUG) and MAD (start 02SEP) flights.While Finnair air traffic is still low, we are looking for cost-effective ways to carry out operations. As of 16 August, we will restart our Barcelona operations by leasing an aircraft and crew from our Oneworld partner Iberia. The leased aircraft will also operate our Madrid flights as of 02 September.
In the flights operated by our Oneworld partner Iberia, the entire crew, including flight crew and cabin, is from Iberia and they serve customers in English. Details about the service concept will be updated soon. Iberia has the same safety instructions and guidelines supporting the health
of our customers and employees onboard. We have collaborated with Iberia previously.
Aug 7, 2021, 2:17 pm
#33
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What was the service like on IB operated AY flights pre-covid? Did AY supply Napue, or do the Spanish folks pull out some local offerings? I wonder if J on the wet IB would be anywhere near to AY experience, or is some enhancement a part of the cost-efficient way to operate?
Aug 7, 2021, 3:24 pm
#35
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What was the service like on IB operated AY flights pre-covid? Did AY supply Napue, or do the Spanish folks pull out some local offerings? I wonder if J on the wet IB would be anywhere near to AY experience, or is some enhancement a part of the cost-efficient way to operate?
most likely it will be a mess but just swift your Lulo card and say nice words and it will work 😉
One of my best memories onboard spanish crew, asking what I can have from the trolley: ”todo lo que quiera señor” so at least they had read the manifest😁
Aug 7, 2021, 11:56 pm
#36
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I don't think I'll get Lumo before September 
But yeah, my Spanish is terrible but I use it as much as I can, and have had good service on IB as well as these IB-AY flights.
But yeah, my Spanish is terrible but I use it as much as I can, and have had good service on IB as well as these IB-AY flights.
Aug 8, 2021, 3:27 am
#37
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They were full-blown AY flights, just on IB metal and IB crew in the cockpit. Even the inflight magazines were switched to Blue Wings.
Now it will probably be a different story as they will have IB cabin crew and the service concept is TBA.
Now it will probably be a different story as they will have IB cabin crew and the service concept is TBA.
Aug 9, 2021, 1:50 am
#38
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Aug 9, 2021, 4:54 am
#40
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There was a significant improvement to IB short-haul catering, which is now supplied by Do & Co. One could actually hope it will be IB and not AY catering
Details: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32848369-post84.html
Pictures: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33309603-post132.html
Details: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32848369-post84.html
Pictures: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33309603-post132.html
Aug 9, 2021, 6:12 am
#41
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There was a significant improvement to IB short-haul catering, which is now supplied by Do & Co. One could actually hope it will be IB and not AY catering
Details: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32848369-post84.html
Pictures: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33309603-post132.html
Details: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32848369-post84.html
Pictures: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33309603-post132.html
Aug 10, 2021, 11:35 am
#42
Join Date: Dec 2016
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Fare difference AY vs IB
Hi,
Does anyone know why Iberia is charging almost double the price for these same flights if booking directly with them, and not selling J seats when Finnair is? (Have some IB vouchers I was hoping to use but not under these circumstances). Thanks
Does anyone know why Iberia is charging almost double the price for these same flights if booking directly with them, and not selling J seats when Finnair is? (Have some IB vouchers I was hoping to use but not under these circumstances). Thanks
Aug 10, 2021, 12:07 pm
#43
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That's how codeshares usually work. Try booking BEG or DOH with AY codes, and it's the same thing. The North American cartel pricing is an anomaly.
There are some exceptions, probably largely in cases where the ticketing carrier has a bulk quota of seats, like AY/AF HEL-CDG or AY/CA HEL-PEK (at least in the past).
There are some exceptions, probably largely in cases where the ticketing carrier has a bulk quota of seats, like AY/AF HEL-CDG or AY/CA HEL-PEK (at least in the past).
Aug 12, 2021, 1:42 am
#45
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Better to stock up on that red during the meal service, then!
11.08.2021In the flights operated by our oneworld partner Iberia, the entire crew, including flight crew and cabin, is from Iberia and they serve customers in English and Spanish. Finnair has collaborated with Iberia previously on these routes. The Iberia adjusted service concept is followed on the flights:
Iberia follows the same safety instructions and guidelines supporting the health of our customers and employees onboard.
When buying tickets through Finnair.com, the operating airline is shown on the “Select Flights page”. If you already have a booking on any of the flights affected, we’ll inform you about the changed aircraft via SMS and/or e-mail. Please go to Manage booking or Finnair App and check that we have your current contact information.
If you wish to change or cancel your flight due to the change in the operating carrier, we ask you to kindly contact Finnair Customer Service. We are also at your service on chat on finnair.com.
You can check your passenger rights here.
We apologize for any inconvenience! "
"IBERIA TO OPERATE OUR BARCELONA AND MADRID FLIGHTS AS OF 16 AUGUST 2021
While Finnair air traffic is still low, we are looking for cost-effective ways to carry out operations. As of 16 August 2021, we will restart our Barcelona operations by leasing an Airbus A321 aircraft and crew from our oneworld partner Iberia. The leased aircraft will also operate our Madrid flights as of 2 September 2021.11.08.2021In the flights operated by our oneworld partner Iberia, the entire crew, including flight crew and cabin, is from Iberia and they serve customers in English and Spanish. Finnair has collaborated with Iberia previously on these routes. The Iberia adjusted service concept is followed on the flights:
- In Business Class, we serve a 3-course meal. Beverages are served only with the meal.
- In Economy Class, you can enjoy complimentary coffee, tea, juice and water and a cookie.
Iberia follows the same safety instructions and guidelines supporting the health of our customers and employees onboard.
When buying tickets through Finnair.com, the operating airline is shown on the “Select Flights page”. If you already have a booking on any of the flights affected, we’ll inform you about the changed aircraft via SMS and/or e-mail. Please go to Manage booking or Finnair App and check that we have your current contact information.
If you wish to change or cancel your flight due to the change in the operating carrier, we ask you to kindly contact Finnair Customer Service. We are also at your service on chat on finnair.com.
You can check your passenger rights here.
We apologize for any inconvenience! "