Jul 29, 2019, 7:58 am
Last edit by: Courmisch
Chinese carriers' current schedule to HEL (Nov 2019)
- Sichuan Airlines (A333):
- CTU 02:00 – HEL 06:00 15
- HEL 08:35 – CPH 09:10 15
- CPH 10:55 – HEL 13:35 15
- HEL 15:45 – CTU 05:00(+1) 15
- Juneyao Airlines (B789)
(long-haul marketed also by Finnair and China Eastern)- PVG 01:20 – 05:20 HEL 246 -28MAR20
- HEL 15:30 – 06:30(+1) PVG 246 -28MAR20
- PVG 00:55 – 06:00 HEL D 29MAR20-
- HEL 07:30 – 08:30 MAN 135 29MAR20-
- MAN 10:00 – 15:10 HEL 135 29MAR20-
- HEL 07:30 – 08:20 KEF 26 29MAR20-
- KEF 09:50 – 16:20 HEL 26 29MAR20-
- HEL 07:30 – 08:45 DUB 47 29MAR20-
- DUB 10:00 – 15:10 HEL 47 29MAR20-
- HEL 16:35 – 06:35(+1) PVG 13457 29MAR20-
- HEL 17:50 – 07:50(+1) PVG 26 29MAR20-
- Tibet Airlines (A333):
- TNA 16:05 – 19:30 HEL 1
- HEL 21:30 – 13:00(+1) TNA 1
Chinese carrier to Helsinki (again)
Nov 20, 2019, 11:45 am
#151
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Nov 20, 2019, 2:13 pm
#152
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The schedule loosely follows that of AY’s morning flight. Wouldn’t it make sense for AY to codeshare on the MAN tag and use their own plane on some other route? They already codeshare on the PVG-HEL flights.
Nov 20, 2019, 2:44 pm
#153
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"It will “initially” operate via Helsinki, the carrier said, with Monday, Wednesday and Friday flights arriving into Manchester at 0830 and departing for Shanghai at 1000."
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...in-march-2020/
Nov 23, 2019, 12:28 pm
#154
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Also it seems that the departure from HEL to PVG has been postponed more than daylight offset would justify, which fits the Finnair waves better... as if HO was copying after JL?
Nov 23, 2019, 12:33 pm
#155
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Nov 23, 2019, 1:00 pm
#156
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It implies, with plausible deniability, that the plan is to fly PVG-MAN directly. But then would HO drop HEL entirely? Otherwise, the problem remains that an expensive B788 stays put on the Vantaa tarmac for hours every day.
Also it seems that the departure from HEL to PVG has been postponed more than daylight offset would justify, which fits the Finnair waves better... as if HO was copying after JL?
Also it seems that the departure from HEL to PVG has been postponed more than daylight offset would justify, which fits the Finnair waves better... as if HO was copying after JL?
Nov 27, 2019, 1:59 am
#158
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Is this now confirmed?
Still room for twice weekly KEF. Looks like Juneyao will have a nice little hub at HEL. I wonder if they'll market these tag flights here in Finland.
And I still think AY could and should take advantage of these flights and sell them as codeshares. There is, for instance, no Thursday morning flight to DUB on AY.
Still room for twice weekly KEF. Looks like Juneyao will have a nice little hub at HEL. I wonder if they'll market these tag flights here in Finland.
And I still think AY could and should take advantage of these flights and sell them as codeshares. There is, for instance, no Thursday morning flight to DUB on AY.
Nov 27, 2019, 2:26 am
#159
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Is this now confirmed?
Still room for twice weekly KEF. Looks like Juneyao will have a nice little hub at HEL. I wonder if they'll market these tag flights here in Finland.
And I still think AY could and should take advantage of these flights and sell them as codeshares. There is, for instance, no Thursday morning flight to DUB on AY.
Still room for twice weekly KEF. Looks like Juneyao will have a nice little hub at HEL. I wonder if they'll market these tag flights here in Finland.
And I still think AY could and should take advantage of these flights and sell them as codeshares. There is, for instance, no Thursday morning flight to DUB on AY.
https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...shanghai-route
Nov 27, 2019, 2:38 am
#160
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Cool! Here's the most important info:
Originally Posted by dublinairport.com
Juneyao will start its new Dublin-Shanghai service on Sunday, March 29, 2020 with a stop in Helsinki on each leg. Juneyao has full fifth freedom traffic rights for the new route, meaning that it can also sell tickets for travel to and from Dublin and Helsinki.
Flights will depart Dublin at 10.00 arriving in Shanghai at 06.30 the next day. The return flight departs Shanghai at 0.55 arriving in Dublin at 08.45.
Juneyao will operate the new route with a Boeing 787-9 aircraft in a two-class configuration with 324 seats – 29 in Business Class and 295 seats in Economy.
Flights will depart Dublin at 10.00 arriving in Shanghai at 06.30 the next day. The return flight departs Shanghai at 0.55 arriving in Dublin at 08.45.
Juneyao will operate the new route with a Boeing 787-9 aircraft in a two-class configuration with 324 seats – 29 in Business Class and 295 seats in Economy.
Nov 27, 2019, 6:49 am
#161
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And now also KEF via HEL announced, twice a week, with 5th freedom rights.
https://onemileatatime.com/chinese-a...m=BoardingArea
https://onemileatatime.com/chinese-a...m=BoardingArea
Nov 27, 2019, 10:31 am
#162
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As soon as we have the exact schedules and starting dates, we need to amend the wiki. The flights seem not to be bookable yet and I can't find the KEF schedule.
Days of the week copied from OMAAT comments:
HEL-DUB-HEL will be on Sundays and Thursdays
HEL-KEF-HEL will be on Tuesdays and Saturdays
HEL-MAN-HEL will be Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays.
Here's to hoping they will have attractive J fares ^
Days of the week copied from OMAAT comments:
HEL-DUB-HEL will be on Sundays and Thursdays
HEL-KEF-HEL will be on Tuesdays and Saturdays
HEL-MAN-HEL will be Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays.
Here's to hoping they will have attractive J fares ^
Nov 27, 2019, 10:55 am
#163
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At 1000€, the 3U fares to CPH are suddenly not so attractive 
is it that thing were Chinese carriers don't publish discounted fares until a few weeks before departure?
is it that thing were Chinese carriers don't publish discounted fares until a few weeks before departure?
Nov 27, 2019, 11:23 am
#164
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Nov 27, 2019, 1:23 pm
#165
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