Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
Last edit by: Marschel
Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while -offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348, 348, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348, 348 (290 on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69
PRG-HEL ≈70
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69, 7k, 69
HEL-CPH 69, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69
HEL-CDG 69, 69, 69
CDG-HEL 89
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69
FRA-HEL 69, 89, 89
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109
HEL-MAD 89, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69
HEL-WAW 79
WAW-HEL 79
DUS-HEL 69
HEL-OSL 42
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115 (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while -offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348, 348, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348, 348 (290 on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69
PRG-HEL ≈70
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69, 7k, 69
HEL-CPH 69, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69
HEL-CDG 69, 69, 69
CDG-HEL 89
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69
FRA-HEL 69, 89, 89
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109
HEL-MAD 89, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69
HEL-WAW 79
WAW-HEL 79
DUS-HEL 69
HEL-OSL 42
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115 (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
Jan 18, 2020, 4:01 am
#1307
Moderator, Finnair
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,178
Jan 19, 2020, 8:21 am
#1310
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: AC Elite
Posts: 2,166
Received an offer for both legs of an upcoming trip two weeks before travel is to commence.
OSL - HEL 76. I didnt take as hotel offered me cheap breakfast upgrade the day before the AY offer arrived
HEL - OSL 60. I did take this deal and seat assigned right away. This will be good value as I plan to have an extra bag and Im curious to see the domestic AY lounge.
original round trip fare purchased: value ~125
I am not a Finnair ff member.
OSL - HEL 76. I didnt take as hotel offered me cheap breakfast upgrade the day before the AY offer arrived
HEL - OSL 60. I did take this deal and seat assigned right away. This will be good value as I plan to have an extra bag and Im curious to see the domestic AY lounge.
original round trip fare purchased: value ~125
I am not a Finnair ff member.
Jan 19, 2020, 8:56 am
#1311
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,602
Received an offer for both legs of an upcoming trip two weeks before travel is to commence.
OSL - HEL 76. I didnt take as hotel offered me cheap breakfast upgrade the day before the AY offer arrived
HEL - OSL 60. I did take this deal and seat assigned right away. This will be good value as I plan to have an extra bag and Im curious to see the domestic AY lounge.
original round trip fare purchased: value ~125
I am not a Finnair ff member.
OSL - HEL 76. I didnt take as hotel offered me cheap breakfast upgrade the day before the AY offer arrived
HEL - OSL 60. I did take this deal and seat assigned right away. This will be good value as I plan to have an extra bag and Im curious to see the domestic AY lounge.
original round trip fare purchased: value ~125
I am not a Finnair ff member.
Jan 19, 2020, 9:15 am
#1312
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,753
Received an offer for both legs of an upcoming trip two weeks before travel is to commence.
OSL - HEL 76. I didnt take as hotel offered me cheap breakfast upgrade the day before the AY offer arrived
HEL - OSL 60. I did take this deal and seat assigned right away. This will be good value as I plan to have an extra bag and Im curious to see the domestic AY lounge.
original round trip fare purchased: value ~125
I am not a Finnair ff member.
OSL - HEL 76. I didnt take as hotel offered me cheap breakfast upgrade the day before the AY offer arrived
HEL - OSL 60. I did take this deal and seat assigned right away. This will be good value as I plan to have an extra bag and Im curious to see the domestic AY lounge.
original round trip fare purchased: value ~125
I am not a Finnair ff member.
Jan 21, 2020, 2:17 pm
#1314
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,753
Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 pm
#1315
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Espoo
Programs: AY
Posts: 157
Such a sweet price! Reading many times how difficult to get an upgrade on the route I wouldn't imagine price could be below 380eu, I thought lunar new year would mean more pax, but maybe not in business case
Jan 22, 2020, 5:21 am
#1317
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: BGO (Temporarily HEL)
Programs: AY+ Gold, SK EBG
Posts: 400
Jan 22, 2020, 6:49 am
#1318
Moderator, Finnair
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,178
Jan 22, 2020, 12:27 pm
#1319
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
I have mixed feelings. Yes, it is just over half the highest upgrade prices that I'd seen (580€ or so). But it is still effectively doubling the half-round-trip price. I already have all the business class benefits from status at the airports, won't need the extra bag allowance, won't get extra points and will land in the afternoon, not too long before I can crash into a nice hotel bed.
Paradoxically I'd have been more keen to spend 50,000 points if the price was 580€.
Paradoxically I'd have been more keen to spend 50,000 points if the price was 580€.
Jan 22, 2020, 2:53 pm
#1320
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: AY Platinum/OWE
Posts: 195