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Old Apr 5, 2013, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by iamife
True no value here in Finland. Maybe it isnt all that easy for a Finn to get the card in the UK or USA without some sort of residency in these countries. No?

I meant the EUR or USD international card thats available even for Finnish residents!!

The 700€ MIGHT be okay if the family cards were also platinum not gold...

Over all I am fearful that gold fees will rise too... Now that Diners is useless in Finland not many options left
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Over all I am fearful that gold fees will rise too... Now that Diners is useless in Finland not many options left
... then back to the basic MC and Visa
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Old Apr 6, 2013, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Now that Diners is useless in Finland not many options left
What do you mean, what has happened?
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
What do you mean, what has happened?
Sorry I mean the so called basic Dinersclub card I wasnt very clear. If you do NOT cobrand the card with AY or SK (both programs I have effectively abandoned lately) there is no possibility to earn miles in Finland from Dinersclub, atleast as far as I can see from their web site... I have a AY Dinersclub but I will change that to the SK one just for lounge access till next year when my SK gold expires, I wont be renewing my SK gold as flying ZERO miles on SK 2013.

Would be good to see Diners have miles redemption possibilities with more then 2 airlines in this day and age, but as stated many times on this forum the possibilities offered in Finland are dismal at best
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by iamife
... then back to the basic MC and Visa
I was just looking at the amount of cards both basic gold/platinum and thinking I really need to consolidate as who really needs every possible card in their wallet I have both platinum Mastercard and Gold and have not used it for ANY purchase in over 2 years but since their is no fee I keep it... go figure, I have used the AY/SK cards but now I am scrambling to look for alternatives
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by kauppias
I wont be renewing my SK gold as flying ZERO miles on SK 2013.

Would be good to see Diners have miles redemption possibilities with more then 2 airlines in this day and age, but as stated many times on this forum the possibilities offered in Finland are dismal at best
I fly very little on SK, but since Lufthansa made SEN practically unattainable (100% earnings on discount biz fares ) I put all *A flights to SK (and hope they'll survive) - they provide the best value for redemptions ex-FIN (think low intra-Scandinavia redemptions, think no-YQ)

My main program is BAEC and earning Gold there makes *G a very hit and miss affair even with SK - I'll just make it this month with only 1 week to spare.

When my AY gold expires, probably I'll give up Diners as well. I very rarely use its lounge access. The 2,5 AY+/€ points are good(ish) with no yearly fee, but once down to 2x and yearly fee, not worth keeping it.

My setup will be Amex as all-round card - the MR program is actually quite good and an SK cobranded MC for when Amex is not accepted.

Yes, when it comes to co-branded cards, we are even worse off than the Swedes are, and they aren't much spoiled either.
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
I fly very little on SK, but since Lufthansa made SEN practically unattainable (100% earnings on discount biz fares ) I put all *A flights to SK (and hope they'll survive) - they provide the best value for redemptions ex-FIN (think low intra-Scandinavia redemptions, think no-YQ)

My main program is BAEC and earning Gold there makes *G a very hit and miss affair even with SK - I'll just make it this month with only 1 week to spare.

When my AY gold expires, probably I'll give up Diners as well. I very rarely use its lounge access. The 2,5 AY+/€ points are good(ish) with no yearly fee, but once down to 2x and yearly fee, not worth keeping it.

My setup will be Amex as all-round card - the MR program is actually quite good and an SK cobranded MC for when Amex is not accepted.

Yes, when it comes to co-branded cards, we are even worse off than the Swedes are, and they aren't much spoiled either.


Sk redemtions are good, however the customer "service" to Finns is a joke now a days. After a super bad experience
I complained but got no satisfaction so I made it clear I wont spend 1€ on them until such time as they rectify it, ive kept my end of the bargain, now I just have to spend my stash

I recently changed my OW program to AA, so far im happy as even the lowest finnair fares gets 100% earnings. TK replaced SK for me time will show if it was worth it.

Its too bad AY doesnt put more into its own program, I will lose my AY gold in may...
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Old Apr 7, 2013, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Sk redemtions are good, however the customer "service" to Finns is a joke now a days.
Service? What a strange word - I think I might have heard it somewhere...

I got totally p--sed off a few years back when it turned out that in FI they provided only a 0600 number - it was nearly 10x cheaper to make an international call to their STO number. They simply couldn't understand why this would upset anybody.

AA is not good for me as I never fly their metal, so no status. BAEC gives me emerald for the same amount of flying where I'd get (maybe) AY+ sapphire
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 12:12 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
Service? What a strange word - I think I might have heard it somewhere...

I got totally p--sed off a few years back when it turned out that in FI they provided only a 0600 number - it was nearly 10x cheaper to make an international call to their STO number. They simply couldn't understand why this would upset anybody.

AA is not good for me as I never fly their metal, so no status. BAEC gives me emerald for the same amount of flying where I'd get (maybe) AY+ sapphire

Luckily AA counts codeshares as flying on their metal


I tried BA but no status match nor challenge so not willing to start from scratch I fly generally back of the plane with sn occassional visit to the otherside so status cards make a huge difference formy flying experience, now I just have to figure out how to get AA miles from a credit card in Finland but I guess I have strayed waaaaaay off course for this thread so I do apologize to other readers
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 2:54 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Luckily AA counts codeshares as flying on their metal


I tried BA but no status match nor challenge so not willing to start from scratch I fly generally back of the plane with sn occassional visit to the otherside so status cards make a huge difference formy flying experience, now I just have to figure out how to get AA miles from a credit card in Finland but I guess I have strayed waaaaaay off course for this thread so I do apologize to other readers
Agree with you AA is the best OW programme for us who can still slum in Y! Now what I really dream of is AX opening up transfers to AA!
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 6:13 am
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Originally Posted by remymartin
Agree with you AA is the best OW programme for us who can still slum in Y! Now what I really dream of is AX opening up transfers to AA!
Now that would indeed be great! I would deginately keep AX then. Who knows maybe well get lucky? A station manager in FRA hinted that tge aa flight hel-ord might become year round maybe if that happens theyll get on AX's radar
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 11:05 am
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Technically you can get AA miles for your AX FI spending - run it through either Club Carlson or Hilton Honours. The rate is so poor though, that it would make no sense at all.
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Now that would indeed be great! I would deginately keep AX then. Who knows maybe well get lucky? A station manager in FRA hinted that tge aa flight hel-ord might become year round maybe if that happens theyll get on AX's radar
^ for ORD!

Sadly, transfers from AX to AA don't even exist on the other side of the pond, so that would need to change first.
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
Technically you can get AA miles for your AX FI spending - run it through either Club Carlson or Hilton Honours. The rate is so poor though, that it would make no sense at all.
The consensus is - if you really must, go with SPG. 1 MR => SPG 1/3 *p => AA 1.25 miles.
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Old Apr 8, 2013, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by remymartin
The consensus is - if you really must, go with SPG. 1 MR => SPG 1/3 *p => AA 1.25 miles.
Hoops, I didn't read that far down the hotel partner list, thanks!
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