One Mile at a Time [OMaaT] discussions [merged]
#166
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
I'm not familiar with the hotel in question, but do think it's fair to ask a hotel to control/limit room access to the hotel's own guests, and those visiting guests in their rooms when it's structurally possible for a given floor. If a hotel has a policy of propping a back door for a daily deliveryman and not supervising that open door, then that's an action/policy that needs to be corrected ASAP.
- Those magnetic swipe keys can be replicated.
- A common entry door may require a key to access, but is easy enough to work around if you just follow in another guest with a key - most people will simply hold the door open for you without a second thought.
- Stairs can often still be used even where the elevators require a key to use.
- Some clever social engineering can work around most any access control feature. And as we have seen, can even allow someone who is a total stranger into a guest's room itself.
Though in this case the alleged perpetrator was someone the guest knew, and voluntarily let him into her room. So (based on what has been posted) it doesn't appear any of the access control features in the hotel would have been relevant. Who knows, the man may have even been a registered guest and had access anyway.
#167
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 3,317
Uh......
"My feelings towards the chain haven’t changed, though you can bet I won’t be returning to any SPG property in Spain, since the general manager of the W Barcelona is also the SPG area manager for Spain, and I wouldn’t want to contribute a dime towards his bottom line."
So. Stupid.
"My feelings towards the chain haven’t changed, though you can bet I won’t be returning to any SPG property in Spain, since the general manager of the W Barcelona is also the SPG area manager for Spain, and I wouldn’t want to contribute a dime towards his bottom line."
So. Stupid.
#168
And yet another twist.... now the purse was probably stolen when at the bar.
That's surely a really exceptional event... probably happens every day in lots of bars.
So now the conspiracy is that there were some (unanswered) calls to the room... really....
That's surely a really exceptional event... probably happens every day in lots of bars.
So now the conspiracy is that there were some (unanswered) calls to the room... really....
#169
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
Posts: 58,626
Only one thing is clear about this story: it was moms fault. If he wants to be mad at some one be mad at mom. Or at himself for not taking better care of her. @:-)
#170
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
In the criminal justice system, hotel purse thefts are considered especially heinous. In the chain hotel world, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Lucky Victims Unit. These are their stories. DUN DUN
(with apologies to Law & Order SVU )
Yes, indeed!
#171
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: UA-1K, MM, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium
Posts: 4,433
I have stayed in *Woods in Spain and will continue to do so.
Too many twists in this saga and I am sure we didn't get the whole story.
#172
Join Date: May 2004
Location: LAX
Posts: 1,849
Intrigued by this thread went to check out what's that about.
Stopped reading after first few sentences, sounds weird and unclear,
honestly don't care. But clicked on his pictures and it seems he just
flew from the US to HKG yesterday just to come back through Tokyo today.
First class of course, I'm sure it was another amazing "trip"...
Stopped reading after first few sentences, sounds weird and unclear,
honestly don't care. But clicked on his pictures and it seems he just
flew from the US to HKG yesterday just to come back through Tokyo today.
First class of course, I'm sure it was another amazing "trip"...
#173
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: BUF
Programs: SPG Plt, HHonors Gold, UA Gold, PC Plat, Marriott Gold
Posts: 880
Loved today's post
"I kind of take the opposite approach — I know exactly what the rules are, and I’ll be persistent as hell when it comes to making sure the rules are followed...
But under normal circumstances I can’t for the life of me bring myself to ask for something I’m not entitled to. And perhaps this is an area where ignorance is bliss. When you know exactly what you are and aren’t entitled to, it’s much tougher to just “fake dumb.”
Always follow the rules... Interested to see how the e-cert trick was allowed per the rules of united
"I kind of take the opposite approach — I know exactly what the rules are, and I’ll be persistent as hell when it comes to making sure the rules are followed...
But under normal circumstances I can’t for the life of me bring myself to ask for something I’m not entitled to. And perhaps this is an area where ignorance is bliss. When you know exactly what you are and aren’t entitled to, it’s much tougher to just “fake dumb.”
Always follow the rules... Interested to see how the e-cert trick was allowed per the rules of united
#174
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: AMS+IAH
Programs: Lufthansa: Senator || IHG: Diamond Royal Ambassador Inner Circle || Plutonium Status
Posts: 3,521
Interesting to see the reactions after Lucky's post today about CX F consistency. Even the Omaat fanboys are getting a bit weary of to much "aspirational" F travel and asking for Lucky to fly/review C/J-class instead to better suit most budgets of readers.
On the other hand with the launch of EK's MXP-NYC route all the reactions are eager to cash in AS-miles to fly F ....
Now that LX/LH F is more restricted to non-miles&more FFP(and even within M&M i think Lucky missed the boat in providing information of other airlines alternetive F or C/J products that could be acheviable.
And before i get sour reactions about jelousy, i have the same 1 Dutch creditcard for 15yrs without manufactered spending and sign up bonus. I earn with M&M status to upgrade onto LH/LX F from paid D-fares if the F/A-fare is the same price as a new car.
On the other hand with the launch of EK's MXP-NYC route all the reactions are eager to cash in AS-miles to fly F ....
Now that LX/LH F is more restricted to non-miles&more FFP(and even within M&M i think Lucky missed the boat in providing information of other airlines alternetive F or C/J products that could be acheviable.
And before i get sour reactions about jelousy, i have the same 1 Dutch creditcard for 15yrs without manufactered spending and sign up bonus. I earn with M&M status to upgrade onto LH/LX F from paid D-fares if the F/A-fare is the same price as a new car.
#175
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
seems almost certain that the guy was watching them in bar and then waited for ben to leave hotel
and the elevator thing - this should have been obvious
looking back at some replies >
farwest101, you might reread how ben described how he initially raised issue with hotel. and this was after not looking for purse until next morning. his post about not asking for things sheds some additional light.
kokonutz, i think more emotional than immature for some of these things. he is always extremely emotional, which probably is an underlying part of trip reports. its a personality trait, and may be part of writing style as well.
and the elevator thing - this should have been obvious
looking back at some replies >
farwest101, you might reread how ben described how he initially raised issue with hotel. and this was after not looking for purse until next morning. his post about not asking for things sheds some additional light.
kokonutz, i think more emotional than immature for some of these things. he is always extremely emotional, which probably is an underlying part of trip reports. its a personality trait, and may be part of writing style as well.
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Feb 18, 2015 at 10:12 pm
#176
Join Date: Jul 2014
Programs: Jeff is Deaf
Posts: 541
I’ll always have a plastic duty free bag on me, and if I noticed any other passengers left amenity kits behind, I’ll subtly stuff them in my bag.
I did this on an EVA Air flight once, and got about five Rimowa kits that way.
I did this on an EVA Air flight once, and got about five Rimowa kits that way.
#177
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SMF, SNA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Platinum Elite, IHG Diamond
Posts: 175
Personally, I love one of the commenters declaring that he finds asking for an extra kit a "bit tacky," but scavenging after the flight is ok.
#178
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,374
I'll play devil's advocate.
- Re: 5 kits, I've seen Ben give them away to readers in raffles.
- Re: scavenging after the flight, presumably that is unobtrusive, whereas asking for an extra demands someone's time and attention.
My last flight had an empty seat next to me, and I swiped the pack of headphones from that seat. But I'd never just ask for an extra pack.
- Re: 5 kits, I've seen Ben give them away to readers in raffles.
- Re: scavenging after the flight, presumably that is unobtrusive, whereas asking for an extra demands someone's time and attention.
My last flight had an empty seat next to me, and I swiped the pack of headphones from that seat. But I'd never just ask for an extra pack.
#179
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4,374
Okay, after this post I look really silly playing devil's advocate.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...tels-piss-off/
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...tels-piss-off/
#180
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Digital Nomad Wandering the Earth - Currently in LIMA, PERU
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Goodness gracious! I could’ve sat there all morning watching people be ridiculous while banging my head against the table.
ETA, looking at his last few posts, it seems like Ben is suffering from travel burnout and could use a vacation.
Which raises the question: where does someone who lives in hotel suites and first class cabins go for a vacation?
Last edited by kokonutz; Feb 19, 2015 at 12:33 pm