Yeah I know,

I'm gonna call the court tomorrow and ask them. Still I need to wait on the NEB statement to get my advantage in court. I talked to them today and they sad that its verry clear in my case that I have the favorside.

I can't see how the NEB would claim otherwise,the rules in this case seem very cleat

I know the poster you are replying to mentioned this as a possible reason for the change, but when a substitution happened to me a few months ago, it was explained that an extremely high demand for Economy Class is usually the reason. As blagger says above, it increases Y by at least 76 seats.

I agree with your sentiments regarding the compensation culture.

However, the law is the law and provision for the compensation will have been built into your ticket price since the law came into force, if EK accountants have done their job correctly.

They should not be able to take the money if they are not going to give it back when required.

I agree and would find it difficult to avoid the impulse to take Emirates' to court if this were to happen to me ex-UK out of sheer bloody mindedness.

Absolutely, the law was implemented specifically to penalise airlines that take actions such as cancelling flights / downgrading passengers

If the airline gained the revenue of 76 economy passengers, then the payback to those downgraded is something that is only fair to be provided imo

Just checked and discovered that some 2 class 777-300ERs have 80 more Y seats than others with F.

Given that F on these aircraft is only two rows, how on earth does Emirates' cram in up to 80 extra Y seats in non-F aircraft?!

There is also the First Class Galley that is no longer required, and the ones with 80 (rather than 76) extra seats don't have the rear crew rest area.

No F galley and extra toilets?

Thank you.

So today I call Expedia as they want me to accept the changes. Agent puts me on hold calls emirates and to cut a long story short if I want to change to the later flight or day before I can (no actually I can't) they will adjust without cost or I can fill online form for refund.
I go to Emirates website and look at said form. It looks to me for full refund, totally not what I want so call Emirates. Pleasant guy puts me on hold for ages then says I am not entitled to a partial refund and I can change flight as stated above. I explained that I can't, he said because it's more than 48 hrs before the flight I am not entitled to partial refund.
I am not looking for lots of money just 25% of the fare difference in the change of class to my booking which I reckon is �250 as the flight was approx �1000 more to go F than J.
Was thinking of speaking to Emirates ticketing staff at Glasgow airport after check-in and then doing partial refund on return from holiday and then if unsuccessful doing the usual emails and letters???

Trotski,

Can you advise as to how far in advance the downgrade occurred that you were notified?
Did you fill in form after your flight?

Assuming this is an ex EU flight

If you do nothing and do not make any changes, then you will be entitled to compensation under EU261 which defines the compensation due for a downgrade as being 75% of the price paid for the ticket

If you voluntarily change to another flight , then obviously you will be entitled to nothing.

I would do nothing now and wait until the downgrade occurs and then lodge a claim with EK for the 75% refund and be prepared to go to moneyclaim.gov.uk to progress it

tummy tank,

I also had a situation similar to yours and I got an email from Emirates saying that if my flight was downgraded (and it was) I would be due a refund for that sector, which at the time I may have accepted. I have since had an email advising me I am due nothing, I have now started court proceedings against them for the full 75% of ticket paid and urge you to do the same on your return.

The downgrade (from F to J) was notified on the 15th Feb for a flight leg on the 24th Feb. The notification was by email but I did not see it as I had already left the Uk on the outward leg by then and had not checked that email address whilst away. I therefore only become aware of the downgrade when checking in at BKK for the return. I filled in the online refund form on my return to the Uk on the 24th Feb. Refund was in my credit card account about a week after submitting the form.

There is a picklist on the refund form that allows you to select downgrade as the reason for your refund request. Also I dont believe that you need to do anything about changing your flights, just turn up at the airport with your original reservation and accept the downgrade when you check in, then after the flight fill in the refund form. From my interaction with Emirates staff on the phone it would appear that they have no control over downgrade refunds and everything needs to go thorough the online form to a dedicated team.

Hope this helps

Trotski