EK has taken delivery of all their 77W on order as of 2018. The next 777 delivery will be the 777-9 if and when that happens. But they will have the new F.

EK will get no more new 77W’s at all, the order has been completed. When the 777X arrives (uncertain when, especially now), they’ll have new F.

SIN, HKG and PEK all used to be A380 routes (although not 100% A380 if I remember correctly). I can’t speculate on ORD, unfortunately. I understand that currently JFK is operated with new F.

Are we sure the new 777Xs will have F seats at all?

It's my understanding that the new 787s and A350s (if they ever arrive!) will not have F suites at all, and perhaps this new trend will find its way into the 777X as well. Tim Clark made the statement some months ago (see below for URL to his statement in ET). This is a very sad development and is a game changer for me.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...my-first-class

Sure? No!
But I think that on certain ‘premium’ routes the demand for F will be high and the ‘supply’ from other airlines limited enough to make it viable for EK to keep something which has definitely set them apart for many years.

77W
 

Hi there

does anyone know the aircraft registration of the relatively new 77W with the updated business class cabin that is similar to the 77L, but not the game changer first class suits?

trying to figure out what’s flying to North America!!

A6-EPV onwards has the new J seat and A6-EQH on the new first suites. Surprisingly (to me anyway) these new J seats are almost 4 years old.

From my monitoring the last few weeks, every destination is getting the new J regularly except BOS. JFK is getting new F (and J).

Thanks guys! That's super helpful!

Cheers

That's exactly what I'm hoping too.

East coast Australia is a heavy user of Emirates F and I'm hoping that they will continue to serve those cities with F-J-Y A380s for a while yet. At least until I'm routinely dribbling the soup down my pyjamas (not Emirates ones) in the nursing home!

A6-EDB flew into early retirement to its nursing home at Tarbes last Tuesday: A6-EDB retirement flight as EK 2689 on FR24

Any idea which US routes are operating with new J in November?

Is LAX really operating with angle flats?

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It's been new J seats (lie flat) on a regular basis for LAX. Most routes get new J aside from BOS of late

Thank you for the info. The seat maps show 2-3-2 for LAX in November. Is this just an error?

Want to make sure I don't get 16hrs of angle flats before transferring amex points
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New J is still 2-3-2. There is no way of seeing from the seat map if it is new J.
If is is new F as well, you can of course see it, but there are a number of 77W’s which have new J but still the 8 old F suites.

And be aware that the type of aircraft is NEVER guaranteed.

Thank you for the clarification.

Does EK ever use their old J product on the LAX route?
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"Ever" is a big word, in this context. It is important to realise that of the 130 77W's in the fleet, only 21 have new J (of which 9 have new F as well).
Frames newer than and including A6-EPV (i.e. alphabetically after that one) are new J, EQH onwards have new F.

I don't have a paid flightradar24 subscription, so I can't look further back than 4 days. These were EPZ, EQG, EQF and EPZ again, so all new J / old F.
That's a very small sample, but 100% new J. I leave it to you to use statistical understanding to draw conclusions / make decisions. If you pay for a flightradar24 subscription, you can look back up to 3 years (for a business subscription). You van go back to long before Covid-19 at a price....;)

I personally have no problem with the very slight angle of the old product, but I have never been on a new J frame. Have been on plenty of A380's with flat beds, so I know what it feels (and in F on 77W and A380). But we all feel different about these things.

Appreciate the insight, don't fly EK often so I am unfamiliar with their fleet :)

I have flown the old J a couple of times on 4 and 7 hr routes and found it became uncomfortable after a couple hours.

Now I have to choose between booking the EK nonstop and hoping for the best, or sticking with AF J connecting through CDG.
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You can in a roundabout way. Economy seating changed from EPV onwards too, from 304 to 306. :)

Yyz-dxb
 

Does anyone know if EK242 from yyz to dxb is flying the new J class seats?

You can look up the registrations on FR24. EPV and onwards have the new J. Of course last minute swaps are always possible

On 18 November, EK 242 had the old seats.

Thanks for the answers. So when I see A6-EPX, that would be the new layout correct?

correct

The first aircraft delivered this year!!

Seems to have F14 C76 Y426 cabin configuration (not confirmed).

A380 A6-EVM will be delivered today!!

That's the second (and second last) one this month. Will it have the PE seats people are speculating about? My bet is 'no'.

I heard A6-EVN will be the first frame wirh Y+

What you heard is correct.

Its now also on the Emirates Twitter feed. ‘Signature Premium Economy ‘ they call it there.

Is there an updated list of registrations for the 777’s with the new first class? I tried looking at the Wiki but couldn’t find it. Might have missed it though. Also, is there any method to where they are deployed these days?

Have a look at the Wiki in this thread :-

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/emir...rst-class.html

I don’t think there are any set routes at the moment.

EQH and later have the new F.
As per DYKWIA, there don’t seem to be any ‘fixed’ routes where you will find them. It would appear that JFK gets new F quite regularly. As there are only 9 frames with new F, the likelihood of getting one is not good.

Sao Paulo is getting the A380 back in Jan :)

A380 A6-EVN is due to be delivered today.

hopefully someone snaps some pics of premium eco

I wonder what the catering options for EK PE will be like...

First revenue flight for A380 A6-EVN.....EK 3/4 DXB-LHR-DXB

Does anyone know what is happening with A6-ECP? Seen at DXB earlier this month devoid of all paint. Earmarked for the freighter converstion programme perhaps?

https://www.aviationimagenetwork.com...ER/i-cvzHMgX/A

Many thanks in advance for any info.

A6-ECP will be probably returned to lessor....same fate for ECN and ECR....
ECL has already left the fleet.

I hope that I am posting at the right forum... Please help move it to the appropriate thread.
I have 4 flights booked this Sept 2021. IAH DBX HKG return in C When I checked the seat maps, all 4 flights feature the old 2-3-2 seat configurations.
I have read/seen C cabin in the 777-300ERs with the 1-2-1. Is it a route thing that they send old planes to ? to think that both IAH DBX , DBX HKG are pretty long haul.
Help. Many thanks in advance.
Keller281

While all this Covid crap has been going on, IAH-DXB has been a mixture of 77L and 77W - its not necessarily about old planes, I think the 77L only has business and economy and believe they have all been re-fitted / brought up to date with new seats etc.

A6-EQP (2 years old) did it a month ago but A6-ECF (13 years old) did it on 3rd Feb.

You wont know until the day mate.