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kq747 Feb 19, 2021 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by Keller281 (Post 33047773)
I hope that I am posting at the right forum... Please help move it to the appropriate thread.
I have 4 flights booked this Sept 2021. IAH DBX HKG return in C When I checked the seat maps, all 4 flights feature the old 2-3-2 seat configurations.
I have read/seen C cabin in the 777-300ERs with the 1-2-1. Is it a route thing that they send old planes to ? to think that both IAH DBX , DBX HKG are pretty long haul.
Help. Many thanks in advance.
Keller281

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The 77L is 2-2-2 with new J seat and the 77W is 2-3-2 with old or new seat. There are no 1-2-1 777's. They have sent a mix of old and new seat configured 77W to IAH historically.

LXA350 Feb 21, 2021 10:12 am

Is there any retirment plan for the older frames of the B77W? As I understand most of the A6-EB series have been retired / had their seats removed and are used as freighters. I recently flew on A6-ECC and the cabin was very much worn.

thijsseh Feb 22, 2021 3:49 am

Double post, apologies

thijsseh Feb 22, 2021 3:52 am


Originally Posted by LXA350 (Post 33051857)
Is there any retirment plan for the older frames of the B77W? As I understand most of the A6-EB series have been retired / had their seats removed and are used as freighters. I recently flew on A6-ECC and the cabin was very much worn.

Although this does not really answer your question, there is a really excellent source to see the current fleet as well as retirements which have already taken place. It is maintained by a Flyer Talker (I am almost certain it's murtaza12) and can be found here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...B04/edit#gid=0

ZRHMD11 May 11, 2021 9:56 am

A380 A6-EVP is due to be delivered today!

Pandor Dec 21, 2021 2:55 am

Which aircraft reg onwards on the 77W's have the new F and J? A6-EQ...

thijsseh Dec 21, 2021 3:49 am


Originally Posted by Pandor (Post 33831104)
Which aircraft reg onwards on the 77W's have the new F and J? A6-EQ...

There is an excellent resource here, produced and maintained by our forum member murtaza12. It will give all the information so often asked for in this form.
It is very up to date, even the final A380 delivery (A6-EVS on 16 December) is on there.

Spoiler: the answer to your question is A6-EQH to EQP.

Pandor Dec 21, 2021 4:40 am


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 33831165)
There is an excellent resource here, produced and maintained by our forum member murtaza12. It will give all the information so often asked for in this form.
It is very up to date, even the final A380 delivery (A6-EVS on 16 December) is on there.

Spoiler: the answer to your question is A6-EQH to EQP.

Thanks, yep that was exactly what I was looking for and normally use that for reference but it appears to have been deleted from the Emirates Fleer Guide sticky.

Saltire74 Dec 21, 2021 7:09 am


Originally Posted by Pandor (Post 33831260)
Thanks, yep that was exactly what I was looking for and normally use that for reference but it appears to have been deleted from the Emirates Fleer Guide sticky.

Link now in the wiki

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Pandor Mar 31, 2022 1:30 am

Just noticed that today’s DXB-NCE is being operated by A6-ECA instead of the usual A6-EQH onwards yet on expert flyer, the seat map for today’s NCE-DXB is showing only 6 F suites. Is it possible that some of the older 77W’s have been retrofitted with the new F?

DYKWIA Mar 31, 2022 1:57 am


Originally Posted by Pandor (Post 34122945)
Just noticed that today’s DXB-NCE is being operated by A6-ECA instead of the usual A6-EQH onwards yet on expert flyer, the seat map for today’s NCE-DXB is showing only 6 F suites. Is it possible that some of the older 77W’s have been retrofitted with the new F?

I don't believe there have been any retrofits. More likely to be a late change of aircraft which EF didn't pick up.

SkyTeam777 Apr 8, 2023 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 34732421)
Press Release - First Emirates A380 rolls in for full cabin refresh and refit

EK's Premium Economy retrofit programme has started as of 1st Nov 2022.

The first frame to get the new PE cabin as well as general refurbishments and updates to other cabins is A6-EVM, which will be followed by A6-EUW on the 1st of December.

67 Airbus A380s will be upgraded and refurbished by May 2024, and 53 Boeing 777s will be upgraded starting May 2024 and ending March 2025.

As always, fleet updates will be tracked on the Google Sheets document below. Big thanks to [MENTION=260930]ZRHMD11[/MENTION] for keeping an eye on it and catching things that I have missed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...aJsL6h_SKCB04/

Is it accurate to say that all A380s with the new business class also have premium economy cabins? Is mid-2024 still the end goal? Are the refurbished A380s flying to any USA destinations yet? or does it vary by day?

qraec777 Apr 9, 2023 11:45 am


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 34732421)
As always, fleet updates will be tracked on the Google Sheets document below. Big thanks to [MENTION=260930]ZRHMD11[/MENTION] for keeping an eye on it and catching things that I have missed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...aJsL6h_SKCB04/

Thank you so much for this treasure. I am going to have fun exploring this doc tonight. It's like a treasure hahah

JerryChen Apr 9, 2023 1:28 pm

I booked EK204 JFK-DXB in late May, and I booked in the PE cabin. Right now it doesn't look like they are using the PE A380s on that route even though they marketed EK204 as the first US route to get PE A380s. I'm kinda scared I'll get downgraded now...

JerryChen Apr 10, 2023 6:17 am


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 35157517)
There are only 12 A380s with PE right now. None flying to US yet. They only fly to LHR, SYD, AKL, CHC and MEL as of right now.
EK mentioned several destinations to get PE in this article, however many of them still don't have PE. Not sure why EK is selling PE on JFK flights when they haven't started deploying it yet on any of the 3 daily flights. In fact, the article says EK204 will get PE in December, yet it's available for sale in May.

Perhaps they plan on finally sending the PE A380s to JFK in May. I'm really excited to try out this cabin and it's gonna be a big letdown if I end up getting regular economy.

Davvidd Apr 13, 2023 12:02 pm

Are there plans for them to introduce PE on the 777s?

ft101 Apr 13, 2023 11:50 pm


Originally Posted by Davvidd (Post 35167460)
Are there plans for them to introduce PE on the 777s?

Yes, but the work won't start until the A380s are finished next year.

Pandor Jul 12, 2023 8:53 am

A6-EGH
 
Does anyone know why B77W A6-EGH was stuck in MIA for almost 3 months? From what I can see, it operated EK213 DXB-MIA on the 13th April 2023 and only yesterday, the 11th July, it ferried back to DXB as EK2696…

ZRHMD11 Jul 12, 2023 11:46 am

the plane was hit by another plane. There was damage to the vertical stabilizer.

dbndb Dec 12, 2023 6:01 am

never mind

HawaiiO Jan 7, 2024 12:12 pm

Thank you for the very detailed spreadsheet!
It is very impressive!

How do we tell which plane is used on a particular route?
is there a website that lists those?

Thanks

thijsseh Jan 12, 2024 4:37 am


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 35901641)
For sub-fleets, like A380s with PE, B77Ls and GameChanger 77Ws, I have the destinations listed in the 'Config - A380' and 'Config - B777' sheets.

For any other routes, you can use FlightRadar24 to check.

Thank you! This is such an incredible resource, we are all very lucky with your efforts in creating and maintaining it.
Much appreciated! :)

airsurfer Jan 19, 2024 1:56 pm

Where are the 350s and 787s which they ordered in 2019 ?

thijsseh Jan 19, 2024 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by airsurfer (Post 35924367)
Where are the 350s and 787s which they ordered in 2019 ?

Apparently the 350's are coming in in August. Noting sure about the 787's as far as I know.

DYKWIA Jan 21, 2024 5:22 am

Are there any issues with the 2 class A380s at the moment? Only 5 of them appear to be in use, and mainly to DUS, BHX, DPS and MRU.

MAN is normally 1 x 3-class and 2 x 2-class, but consistently all 3 class at the moment. I've got a couple of flights in March that I've booked the upper deck Y seats... I'd hate to get moved downstairs :D

ZRHMD11 Jan 21, 2024 6:06 am

That`s true, only 5 flying at moment, EOP, EOX, EUQ, EUY and EVB....mainly to MAN, BHX, DUS, MRU and DPS.
The situation of the remaining 10 frames:
EUO: MX in TLS
EUX: MX in CAN
EUZ: Stored in DWC
EOQ, EOR, EOS, EOY, EUN, EUP and EVA: MX in DXB

DYKWIA Jan 21, 2024 6:26 am


Originally Posted by ZRHMD11 (Post 35928197)
That`s true, only 5 flying at moment, EOP, EOX, EUQ, EUY and EVB....mainly to MAN, BHX, DUS, MRU and DPS.
The situation of the remaining 10 frames:
EUO: MX in TLS
EUX: MX in CAN
EUZ: Stored in DWC
EOQ, EOR, EOS, EOY, EUN, EUP and EVA: MX in DXB

I don't see any MAN flights so far this year.

ZRHMD11 Jan 21, 2024 7:10 am

You are right, last fly to MAN was 31/12.....my bad!! :(

A6-EUY isn`t flying since 2 days!!

CaptainEKAirbus Mar 8, 2024 12:52 am


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36062766)
I believed EK was only retrofitting PE to ULR frames (14F/76J/426Y), but [MENTION=260930]ZRHMD11[/MENTION] had a theory that EUM (inactive since 19th Jan) was also getting the retrofit. Well, he was right.

EUM is the only 'LR' configured A380 in the entire RR-powered subfleet, and it was originally configured in 14F/76J/429Y. It does not have a crew rest area, hence the 3 extra Y class seats.

EUM returned to service this morning, operating DXB-SIN (EK354), which is a PE route. I checked the seat map on EF, and it shows 14F/76J/56W/341Y, which is a new layout with 3 extra Y seats (52A, 52B, 52C) that EK will presumably use going forward on non-ULR A380s that are to be retrofitted with PE.

I hadn't listed EUM on the retrofit sheet because I wasn't sure of it, until now, but the doc has been updated to reflect this new information. EUI, which is also in for retrofit should also return to service in the next few days. Bringing the total number of PE fitted frames to 28.

These 341Y frames will primarily be flying SIN, MAN, and ZRH sectors this year when the latter two get premium economy.

DYKWIA Mar 8, 2024 3:11 am


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36062766)
I believed EK was only retrofitting PE to ULR frames (14F/76J/426Y), but [MENTION=260930]ZRHMD11[/MENTION] had a theory that EUM (inactive since 19th Jan) was also getting the retrofit. Well, he was right.

EUM is the only 'LR' configured A380 in the entire RR-powered subfleet, and it was originally configured in 14F/76J/429Y. It does not have a crew rest area, hence the 3 extra Y class seats.

EUM returned to service this morning, operating DXB-SIN (EK354), which is a PE route. I checked the seat map on EF, and it shows 14F/76J/56W/341Y, which is a new layout with 3 extra Y seats (52A, 52B, 52C) that EK will presumably use going forward on non-ULR A380s that are to be retrofitted with PE.

I hadn't listed EUM on the retrofit sheet because I wasn't sure of it, until now, but the doc has been updated to reflect this new information. EUI, which is also in for retrofit should also return to service in the next few days. Bringing the total number of PE fitted frames to 28.

One that Prospero may be interested in for his Aerolopa site.

Sant Mar 13, 2024 6:03 pm

Best to Worst?
 
Is there a best equipment to worst equipment listing? I have seen folks use the word “upgrade” when a route switches to the A380. Since Airbus is not making any more A380s, is the A380 still EK’s flagship plane? Is it due to the F shower availability?

IntrepidAfrican2 Mar 14, 2024 7:31 am


Originally Posted by Sant (Post 36078091)
Is there a best equipment to worst equipment listing? I have seen folks use the word “upgrade” when a route switches to the A380. Since Airbus is not making any more A380s, is the A380 still EK’s flagship plane? Is it due to the F shower availability?

All round, I think the 380 is better on EK. F has the showers; J seat is better (although the cabin can feel like a dormitory); there’s the J and F lounge at the back; and so far only 380s have PE.

Caveat is a small number of 77Ws with the new F. Some have a 2-2-2 J layout, but none offer aisle access to all J seats.

Given EK hasn’t taken delivery of any new aircraft in years now, I think age is down to specific aircraft rather than “this fleet is older than that”. In fact, I think the newest passenger EK aircraft is an A380.

tusho Mar 20, 2024 11:12 am

Hi all,

does anyone know what the interior of EK417 looks like (how old the seats are)?

I had the choice between EK413 and EK417 between SYD and DXB. 413 has premium economy, 417 doesn’t. I decided to fly 417 as I preferred the time but afraid it’s an older aircraft.

No big deal if it is, just curious to find out and couldn’t find it in spreadsheets kindly offered here. I’ll be flying business.

Thanks everyone

Sant Mar 21, 2024 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by tusho (Post 36095539)
Hi all,

does anyone know what the interior of EK417 looks like (how old the seats are)?

I had the choice between EK413 and EK417 between SYD and DXB. 413 has premium economy, 417 doesn’t. I decided to fly 417 as I preferred the time but afraid it’s an older aircraft.

No big deal if it is, just curious to find out and couldn’t find it in spreadsheets kindly offered here. I’ll be flying business.

Thanks everyone

Consider getting the tail numbers of the planes flown in recent days on FlightStats. With that list, use the Google spreadsheet posted by murtaza12 to determine the configuration.

Weeks ago, I checked the flights for my upcoming trip and all the available tail numbers were in the same configuration group.

tusho Mar 22, 2024 3:34 am

Oh cool thanks. And thanks murtaza12 for the amazing spreadsheet.

The Emir Mar 28, 2024 3:48 am

A6-EDM ... Parked in Moscow (EDM in DME).

Waiting for parts, sorry, repairs... ah,no ,that's it ... fake news to be manufactured regarding how those nasty Ukrainians must be behind the incompetence! :p

IntrepidAfrican2 Mar 28, 2024 3:57 am


Originally Posted by The Emir (Post 36116295)
A6-EDM ... Parked in Moscow (EDM in DME).

Waiting for parts, sorry, repairs... ah,no ,that's it ... fake news to be manufactured regarding how those nasty Ukrainians must be behind the incompetence! :p

Da, comrade. Superior Russian tech does not work in inferior Western planes. No parts because Airbus primitive! Pfft. Russian plane much better.

Jet777Boy Apr 18, 2024 5:43 pm

Hello,

Sorry if that was answered or mentioned previously (in the 2010s!) but I could not find a bulletproof answer.

I see that A6-EBU and EBW had the following J seats at some point:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5ff235167d.jpg


While A6-EGC, ECE, ECU, ECQ had the following:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c0a36eeae7.jpg

(1) Are they still featuring the same seats today? (2) Or were they replaced or refreshed (IFE upgraded, or re-trim) in the last 20 years?

If (2), do we know when?

I looked at the eksource website (website down), many youtube trip reports, and I can't find those exact seats anymore.

Thanks!

qraec777 Apr 19, 2024 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by Jet777Boy (Post 36171359)
Hello,

Sorry if that was answered or mentioned previously (in the 2010s!) but I could not find a bulletproof answer.

I see that A6-EBU and EBW had the following J seats at some point:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5ff235167d.jpg


While A6-EGC, ECE, ECU, ECQ had the following:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c0a36eeae7.jpg

(1) Are they still featuring the same seats today? (2) Or were they replaced or refreshed (IFE upgraded, or re-trim) in the last 20 years?

If (2), do we know when?

I looked at the eksource website (website down), many youtube trip reports, and I can't find those exact seats anymore.

Thanks!

The last time I flew on the A6-EBx series and the A6-ECx series (February 2020), they seemed to have PTVs similar to what you posted here, with the A6-EBx series having a larger display (like the A6-EMx series which are now retired). Those birds are retiring retirement so I doubt EK would have refurbished these seats by now.

Flo388 Apr 23, 2024 8:03 am

Does anyone know when the Premium Economy retrofit of the A380 will continue?


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