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Face81 Oct 16, 2012 4:12 am


Originally Posted by Xlr (Post 19502846)
I read somewhere that they had ordered the A345s so that they could have a similar US route network 10 years ago, but then 9/11 happened.

It's true. They have openly confessed to having suffered a set back after 9/11 as they had grand plans for the US, which are only now being rolled out, a decade later than they wanted.

jimyvr Oct 24, 2012 12:07 pm

Changes from 01DEC12...
Athens Airbus A340-500 continues operation, replacing previously planned 777-300
St. Petersburg 777-300 operating, replacing previously planned A340-500

MucEKPer Oct 24, 2012 1:39 pm

EK Europe Winter 12/13 Overview
 
I've decided to list EK's winter flight data in an easy tabular format for easy reference and I'm going to share it here for those interested. Only Europe done so far.
EK Europe W12/13 Overview

Underlined Italics refer to two-class aircraft

EK77W Oct 24, 2012 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 19558241)
I've decided to list EK's winter flight data in an easy tabular format for easy reference and I'm going to share it here for those interested. Only Europe done so far.
EK Europe W12/13 Overview

Underlined Italics refer to two-class aircraft

Could you do that for all other destinations, too? I know some destiantions (especially in the middle east) are a bit tricky cause a/c changes on the same flight almost every day whereas destinations like Europe, USA or Australia see the same a/c every day on the same flight.

MucEKPer Oct 24, 2012 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by EK77W (Post 19558269)
Could you do that for all other destinations, too? I know some destiantions (especially in the middle east) are a bit tricky cause a/c changes on the same flight almost every day whereas destinations like Europe, USA or Australia see the same a/c every day on the same flight.

I've done it for Americas, Asia, Africa and Oceania now (i'll upload them tomorrow). Currently working on Indian Subcontinent before I'll do the Middle East.

Zol Oct 25, 2012 3:30 am


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 19558241)
I've decided to list EK's winter flight data in an easy tabular format for easy reference and I'm going to share it here for those interested. Only Europe done so far.
EK Europe W12/13 Overview

Underlined Italics refer to two-class aircraft

this is great ^

ZRHMD11 Oct 25, 2012 6:45 am

Hi MucEKPer!

Great job...thanks!

I`ve seen just two small errors:
The one flight to MXP should be 93/94 stead 92/94.
EK 11/12 is always done by a 77W....sometimes even a 772.....but never a 773.

I am very keen to see your next uploads!!

MucEKPer Oct 25, 2012 8:59 am

I've fixed MXP. Will upload corrected version in several minutes.
Regarding LGW service 11/12 the EK Timetable is showing a daily 773 for the W12 period while airlineroute is stating "Dubai – London Gatwick eff 28OCT12 EK011/012 3-class Boeing 777-300ER with First Class replaces -200ER."

Anyone know more about this flight?

MucEKPer Oct 25, 2012 9:29 am

Asia W12 Overview

Europe Updated 1 W12 Overview

Africa W12 Overview CORRECTED

Americas W12 Overview

Oceania W12 Overview


That's it for now.
I'm trying to upload them into a editable GoogleDocs format so changes can be made more easily and more collaboratively.

Underlined Italics show 2-class aircraft
Sources are the Emirates timetable and Airlineroute.net

If anyone spots any mistakes, please Inbox me and I will upload a corrected version tomorrow. Thanks

thespeedskater Oct 25, 2012 10:54 am

Thanks a lot!!^

EK433B77W Oct 26, 2012 8:48 am


Originally Posted by MucEKPer (Post 19563168)
Asia W12 Overview

Europe Updated 1 W12 Overview

Africa W12 Overview CORRECTED

Americas W12 Overview

Oceania W12 Overview


That's it for now.
I'm trying to upload them into a editable GoogleDocs format so changes can be made more easily and more collaboratively.

Underlined Italics show 2-class aircraft
Sources are the Emirates timetable and Airlineroute.net

If anyone spots any mistakes, please Inbox me and I will upload a corrected version tomorrow. Thanks

Great work there mate! Keep it up! ^

Tim(HAM) Oct 27, 2012 7:20 am

Excellent, thanks a lot!

EK77W Nov 3, 2012 12:06 pm

EK press release regarding the South East Asia expansion
http://www.emirates.com/ae/english/a...17948&offset=0

N830MH Nov 9, 2012 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by Xlr (Post 19502846)
I read somewhere that they had ordered the A345s so that they could have a similar US route network 10 years ago, but then 9/11 happened.

Right, they already have 10 A340-500 aircraft. I believe EK will retired the entire A345 aircraft.

Face81 Nov 10, 2012 8:21 am

Civil Aviation Ministry grants new rights to Indian carriers
 
Reversing its stance the civil aviation ministry has decided to negotiate with governments of Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Oman and Singapore to allow for more flights between India and these countries.

Civil aviation minister Ajit Singh also given nod to Indian carriers to start more foreign flights allocating additional traffic rights till winter 2013. New routes are also being opened up with the ministry giving permission to start services to Rome, Madrid, Barcelona, Moscow, Sydney/Melbourne, Nairobi, Al Najaf (Iraq), Jakarta, Zurich, Ho Chi Minh City and Macao. At present these cities are not served by Indian carriers.

In the last summer schedule Indian airlines were allowed to operate 1074 services per week and the number of services have been increased to 1526 for next summer and 1695 for next winter.

Importantly the government has decided to resume negotiations with foreign states to enhance the seat entitlements available to either side thereby enabling increase in services. The government had come under fire from the Comptroller and Auditor General for liberally enhancing seat entitlements on demand from Gulf and European airlines. These carriers particularly Emirates, Etihad, Qatar Airways and Singapore Airlines were thus able to increase number of flights to India and tap the market to feed their global networks.

In its press statement ministry said Singh has directed the ministry to hold fresh bilateral negotiations to explore possibilities of enhancing additional traffic rights with those countries with whom existing traffic rights have almost got exhausted. These include Singapore, Thailand, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Iraq, Macao and Afghanistan.

In its report CAG had noted the capacity on India-Dubai route increased from 10,000 seats/week in 2003 to 54,000 seats/week in 2008-09 and that Emirates was utilising 98 percent of the capacity but Indian airlines were utilising less than half of the approved capacity. In case of Qatar the capacity increased from 2872 seats/week to over 24,000 seats with Qatar Airways utilising over 18,000 seats and Indian airlines put together using 4,000-5,000 seats. Apart from additional seats per week foreign airlines were granted access to more Indian airports.

A senior civil aviation ministry official defended the government move. "We will be negotiating with only those countries where India has exhausted seat entitlements. It is our requirement too. We can not stall the growth of Indian carriers.'' He added that by winter 2013 Indian carriers too will be exhausting the seat entitlements on countries like Singapore and denied that government was acting under pressure from foreign airlines.

Air India's retired executive director Jitender Bhargava said "While the positive aspect is that the rights are being granted to Indian carriers adequately in advance which will enable them to plan well for new destinations, the negative is that the ministry wishes to resume negotiations for more rights with countries surrounding the Indian sub continent. These carriers already have a strong stranglehold on the Indian Market much to the detriment of Indian carriers, hence any more entitlement will harm economic viability still more. Wisdom demands moderation as the existing capacity itself is being used for 6th freedom traffic (onward traffic).''

The opening of global routes for Indian carriers is very welcome. It has been a long standing demand. It will help increase the share of indian carriers in the global traffic emanating from India", says Amber Dubey, Partner and Head-Aviation at KPMG.

"At the same time, we should also allow domestic hubbing for India carriers. For instance the Coimbatore-Chennai leg of a Coimbatore-Chennai-Fankfurt flight should be allowed as a foreign flight. That would allow lower ATF charge and also allow seamless travel to the Coimbatore passenger", Dubey added

According to government rules " The traffic rights allocated for a schedule i.e. summer or winter schedule of a particular year, shall be utilised during the same schedule. Failure to do so shall render the applicant ineligible for allocation of these rights for the next two years. Although periodic reviews are carried out government has so far not taken action on airlines not utilising the traffic rights.

http://www.business-standard.com/ind...ghts/195398/on


:-: I guess this means that we can expect new EK destinations in India imminently.....


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