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WELCOME TO THE FLYERTALK EL AL MATMID THREAD! THIS IS A COMMUNITY-MAINTAINED WIKI FOR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT EL AL, MATMID, ELAL.COM, AND THE LY FT THREAD. PLEASE READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING!
This thread is FLAME-FREE! Please recognize newbies who are posting here as well, and respond accordingly!!
Help me understand FlyerTalk and EL AL Matmid Forum lingo!
Flying with EL AL?
Frequent flyer with EL AL?
Need to contact EL AL?
Want general information about EL AL?
EL AL Online:
Important Threads From the Matmid forum!
Another FT thread: Traveling in Israel, for help navigating transportation in Israel
And from EL AL's website: Fly a Lot? EL AL Offers You a Ticket Pack
Upgrade to Premium Classes On-Board Your Flight!
Have a question? Do a SEARCH! Before posting a new thread, search first! There are 2 ways of searching FlyerTalk!
WELCOME TO THE FLYERTALK EL AL MATMID THREAD! THIS IS A COMMUNITY-MAINTAINED WIKI FOR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT EL AL, MATMID, ELAL.COM, AND THE LY FT THREAD. PLEASE READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING!
This thread is FLAME-FREE! Please recognize newbies who are posting here as well, and respond accordingly!!
Help me understand FlyerTalk and EL AL Matmid Forum lingo!
Flying with EL AL?
- OLCI with Express Check-in
- Choosing the Right Seat
- Preferred Seats on EL AL (F seat with C service; C seat with Y service; Y seats with extra legroom)
- Luggage Allowances, Excess Luggage Fees, and Infant Seat/Stroller Guidelines
- On-board IFE and connectivity
- Flying With Infants
Frequent flyer with EL AL?
Need to contact EL AL?
Want general information about EL AL?
- Welcome to EL AL!
- Ben Gurion International Airport, EL AL's main hub
- Fare Classes
- Where can I find information on EL AL's Fleet?
EL AL Online:
Important Threads From the Matmid forum!
- Flying EL AL, and want to guested into the King David Lounge? See TLV King David Lounge Get-togethers, started by yosithezet.
- Want to know where there are King David Lounges or partner lounges around the world? See ELAL KD Lounges/Lounge Access across the world, started by sn1ke.
- Want to know how to earn more Matmid points using your credit card? See Earning LY Matmid points with Israeli CCs, started by yosithezet.
- Do LY have plans to add Premium Economy and overhaul the cabin? See LY Premium Eco and cabin overhaul?
- Comparing Business Class on Lufthansa (LH) and EL AL: El Al or Lufthansa to TLV?
- Want to know how to redeem Matmid points for an upgrade? How does one redeem for upgrade on LY?
- Want more information on the AA/LY relationship? See American Airlines and LY / EL AL Israel Airlines Codeshares (consolidated) from the American AAdvantage forum
- Travelling on a codeshare flight but LY metal and want to use your Matmid benefits? See Travelling with LY on an LX ticket - can I use my PL benefits?
- What are the best seats on LY's 744? Seating advice: LY 744: row 34 or 21?
- Beware! Flexible fare on EL AL may not be as flexible as you think! Total Economy vs Semi Flexible - what's the difference in flexibility?
Another FT thread: Traveling in Israel, for help navigating transportation in Israel
And from EL AL's website: Fly a Lot? EL AL Offers You a Ticket Pack
Upgrade to Premium Classes On-Board Your Flight!
Have a question? Do a SEARCH! Before posting a new thread, search first! There are 2 ways of searching FlyerTalk!
- Inside the specific forum, click on "Search this Forum" for results from within the El Al Matmid forum. To search all of FlyerTalk, click on "Search" located above the forum.
- By using Google. Duh! To search FT using Google, first type "site:www.flyertalk.com," and then a space, and then type what you want to search. (Leave out the quotation marks and comma!)
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Sep 15, 2014, 8:24 am
#77
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Sep 15, 2014, 8:53 am
#78
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It also shows a row in the middle (21) in front of 22, indicating 21 is the bulkhead, not 22
Sep 18, 2014, 2:50 pm
#79
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 11
So, I really got nailed...checked-in for my flight in Tel Aviv and El Al charged for for my second bag on my Jet Blue flight which I was taking from JFK to SEA. I argued that I had called JetBlue who said El Al's rules apply and the MSC part but they told me the computer wouldn't allow them to put it through without charging me. I argued but then gave up. The worst part is, they charged me $115 (!) even though I found out Jet Blue's second bag fee is $50. I've sent them an e-mail to clarify how this happened and have yet to hear back.
I'm now worried about my return on AA out of Seattle, although that flight even has an El Al flight number and I think they have at least a partnership, unlike Jet Blue...
I'm now worried about my return on AA out of Seattle, although that flight even has an El Al flight number and I think they have at least a partnership, unlike Jet Blue...
Sep 19, 2014, 1:38 am
#80
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So, I really got nailed...checked-in for my flight in Tel Aviv and El Al charged for for my second bag on my Jet Blue flight which I was taking from JFK to SEA. I argued that I had called JetBlue who said El Al's rules apply and the MSC part but they told me the computer wouldn't allow them to put it through without charging me. I argued but then gave up. The worst part is, they charged me $115 (!) even though I found out Jet Blue's second bag fee is $50. I've sent them an e-mail to clarify how this happened and have yet to hear back.
I'm now worried about my return on AA out of Seattle, although that flight even has an El Al flight number and I think they have at least a partnership, unlike Jet Blue...
I'm now worried about my return on AA out of Seattle, although that flight even has an El Al flight number and I think they have at least a partnership, unlike Jet Blue...
Nov 10, 2014, 10:31 pm
#83
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I would say that row 10 is the best, with row 12 the worst (it has tons of legroom, however its near the toilets so there tends to be congestion that usually bothers me when I'm seated there).
Nov 13, 2014, 1:03 am
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Nov 13, 2014, 3:23 am
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Nov 13, 2014, 3:39 am
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The LY PNR is the Amadeus code which I don't think AA uses.
Did you get a PNR from AA? Is that the PNR you're using, or did you specifically request the LY PNR from AA, as opposed to AA's own PNR?
(PNR is the Passenger Name Record, and when dealing with flights on different airlines, or codeshares, etc., each airline has their own unique PNR to look up a flight in their system.)
Did you get a PNR from AA? Is that the PNR you're using, or did you specifically request the LY PNR from AA, as opposed to AA's own PNR?
(PNR is the Passenger Name Record, and when dealing with flights on different airlines, or codeshares, etc., each airline has their own unique PNR to look up a flight in their system.)
Nov 13, 2014, 6:04 am
#90
Join Date: Nov 2014
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The LY PNR is the Amadeus code which I don't think AA uses.
Did you get a PNR from AA? Is that the PNR you're using, or did you specifically request the LY PNR from AA, as opposed to AA's own PNR?
(PNR is the Passenger Name Record, and when dealing with flights on different airlines, or codeshares, etc., each airline has their own unique PNR to look up a flight in their system.)
Did you get a PNR from AA? Is that the PNR you're using, or did you specifically request the LY PNR from AA, as opposed to AA's own PNR?
(PNR is the Passenger Name Record, and when dealing with flights on different airlines, or codeshares, etc., each airline has their own unique PNR to look up a flight in their system.)
AA (obviously) knew I'm flying El Al and gave me an Amadeus code which El Al accepted with no probs over the phone, but they said to change seats I need to contact AA since they issued the ticket (not their exact words). I told them AA said the opposite but the impolite woman just said they are wrong and goodbye.