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Old Sep 4, 2019, 11:54 am
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Old Oct 1, 2019, 8:58 pm
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Ryanair launching Charleroi - article in French

https://fr.timesofisrael.com/la-comp...eroi-tel-aviv/
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Old Oct 16, 2019, 10:19 pm
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Ryanair launching twice-weekly Toulouse-TLV flights in summer 2020.

https://www.fly4free.com/flight-deal...ench-airports/
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Old Nov 9, 2019, 11:10 am
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United is making both TLV from EWR 77W starting December
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Old Nov 20, 2019, 9:36 pm
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Here's a reports from LY load factor:

LY 296 91837 74323 80.9%
BOS-TLV 24 6670 5326 79.9%
EWR-TLV 70 20604 17309 84.0%
JFK-TLV 118 40971 33761 82.4%
LAX-TLV 40 11234 8732 77.7%
MIA-TLV 27 7583 6485 85.5%
SFO-TLV 17 4775 2710 56.8%

SFO-TLV is a disaster. It's terrible. I think LY SFO-TLV will be discontinued. United Airlines has already flies SFO-TLV. Cannot handle UA competition on this route?
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Old Nov 20, 2019, 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by N830MH
Here's a reports from LY load factor:

LY 296 91837 74323 80.9%
BOS-TLV 24 6670 5326 79.9%
EWR-TLV 70 20604 17309 84.0%
JFK-TLV 118 40971 33761 82.4%
LAX-TLV 40 11234 8732 77.7%
MIA-TLV 27 7583 6485 85.5%
SFO-TLV 17 4775 2710 56.8%

SFO-TLV is a disaster. It's terrible. I think LY SFO-TLV will be discontinued. United Airlines has already flies SFO-TLV. Cannot handle UA competition on this route?
I would not read too much into the SFO numbers. I assume you got these numbers from another site where the poster said they are from May 2019. EL Al started the SFO route on May 19th. Basically a new route. I believe this route will be served by a 787-8 after the new year. I am surprised about LAX. They have been serving this route for many years and have no competition but only pull 77%
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Old Nov 21, 2019, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by N830MH
Here's a reports from LY load factor:

LY 296 91837 74323 80.9%
BOS-TLV 24 6670 5326 79.9%
EWR-TLV 70 20604 17309 84.0%
JFK-TLV 118 40971 33761 82.4%
LAX-TLV 40 11234 8732 77.7%
MIA-TLV 27 7583 6485 85.5%
SFO-TLV 17 4775 2710 56.8%

SFO-TLV is a disaster. It's terrible. I think LY SFO-TLV will be discontinued. United Airlines has already flies SFO-TLV. Cannot handle UA competition on this route?
What is the source of these numbers?
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Old Nov 21, 2019, 10:33 am
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Just heard of someone who was on a rather empty flight had entire economy row for himself on LY from SFO. Doesn't sounds good, but on the other hand, UA seems to fill economy with transit passengers to LAX/SEA and even EWR.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 12:36 am
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I heard from someone who works at LY that UA's TLV-SFO service had major impact on LY's TLV-LAX, causing a retreat from 6 weekly flights down to 3 some time ago...and that LY's misread of the SFO potential caused them major damage on the West Coast altogether. It makes sense, since the big corporate money is focused on Northern CA as opposed to Southern CA. That's the bread and butter. UA got there first and ex-TLV corporate pax went to SFO, drawing LY to retreat on capacity to LA.
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Old Nov 22, 2019, 9:12 am
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I have met a number of people who would rather connect through SFO to avoid LY. Furthermore the LA flight has been consistently overpriced and I don't think they have reduced the price to competitive levels.
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Old Nov 26, 2019, 2:08 am
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AA to increase DFW service (that hasn't even started yet) from 3x weekly to daily

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...from-oct-2020/

Incredibly, this route seems to be profitable before they have even flown it... ;-)
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Old Nov 26, 2019, 10:05 pm
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I have met a number of people who would rather connect through SFO to avoid LY. Furthermore the LA flight has been consistently overpriced and I don't think they have reduced the price to competitive levels.
Actually all the E.l AL sales from US, SFO is cheaper than JFK
Example :
https://www.dansdeals.com/airfare-de...ts-round-trip/
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Old Nov 27, 2019, 1:35 am
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ELAL to start direct flights to Melbourne Australia using a 787-900 (starting with testing flights - whatever that means).
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,73....html#autoplay
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Old Nov 27, 2019, 1:47 am
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ELAL to start direct flights to Melbourne Australia using a 787-900 (starting with testing flights - whatever that means).
https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,73....html#autoplay
El-Al to test direct flight to Melbourne Australia
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Old Nov 27, 2019, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by clubman
More details:
https://onemileatatime.com/el-al-melbourne-australia/

Will be interesting to see what exact route they come up with for this.
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