Was it all? I read about the second one and before my trip it was on the Homepage.

Typical Paris-prices I would say. Alain Ducasse is totally uninteresting for me as I have to pay 2 glasses of wine which I don�t drink.

Ah, true. For some reason many London restaurants have lunch deals for 50-60 GBP that include 3 courses and two glasses of wine -- Alain Ducasse, Helene Darroze, Le Gavroche, Marcus. I wonder if they would still charge the full price if you didn't consume wine. Perhaps they'd throw in an extra course or waive a supplementary charge (such as the supplement for the baba at Helene Darroze). You probably save a lot of money by not drinking wine!

Not only money But true, my bill is usually relative low.

[QUOTE=offerendum;28993455]Was it all? I read about the second one and before my trip it was on the Homepage.

Did you mean was that all? No many more courses but I can't figure out how to upload pics without it taking a huge amount of time (?)

Just found my receipt -it was actually 90 e!

I don't know why they don't post it - but I had to write to ask if they still offered it b/c I also only saw the 155 e lunch menu. They assured me it is still offered (and it was) but is not online????

The NYC list is finally here! https://ny.eater.com/2017/10/30/1656...nyc-stars-2018

Biggest shocker might be JG losing a star. But I haven't been in years so I can't really comment on how things are now.

Bar Uchu got a (well-deserved) star despite only being open for a few months. The kaiseki bar at Uchu is manned by a couple of CTBF alums (both chef and maitre d), and the menu reflects a similar cooking style. Still need to check out the sushi bar with Ichimura.

I must disagree. We take a culinary trip every Dec to SF to sample the best restaurants. Three years ago it was 3* Saison, 2* Coi (old chef), and 1* Gary Danko. Two years ago it was 3* Benu, 2* Atelier Crenn, and 1* Michael Mina. Last year it was 3* Manresa on one trip and 3* Quince, 2* Campton Place, in Situ, and 1* Mourad on the other. This year, we are trying 2* Acquarello, 1* Luce, and revisiting 3* Coi.

We find San Francisco to be absolutely world class and offering exciting combinations and interesting approaches with all manners of fusions between East and West and all that's in between.

In between all of those, we also dined at Istanbul's Mikla (#50 on Pellegrino list), 3* Meadowood, 3* Le Calandre, Chicago's 3* Alinea, Saam at the Bazaar by Jose Andres in LA three times, Capetown's The Test Kitchen and Franschhoek's The Tasting Room, Mexico City's Biko and Quintonil, San Diego's Juniper and Ivy, Bogota's Criterion and Harry Sassoon, Hong Kong's 2* Amber and 3* Lung King Helen (now 2*), Milan's 2* Il Luogo di Aimo y Nadie, London's 2* The Ledbury twice and 2* Marcus, New Delhi's Indian Accent and Bukhara, DC's 2* minibar by Jose Andres, Sydney's Sepia and Quay, and most recently Rome's 2* Il Pagliaccio, Vienna's 2* Steirereck, and Paris' 1* La Scene.

We've also previously dined at 3* Guy Savoy, 3* French Laundry, 3* Le Bernadin, 3* Gordon Ramsay, 2* Noma. 2* Geranium, 1* Relae, etc. We will be going to NYC's 3* Eleven Madison Park in March. We hit Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka in May--where we are planning for Tokyo's 3* Yoshitake and 2* Narisawa, Kyoto's 3* Kitcho, 3* Kichisen, 3* Nakamura, 2* Gion Sasaki, Nara's 3* Wa Yamamura, Kobe's 2* Aragawa, and Osaka's 2* Hajime.

So I think we have some perspective. We've dined all over the world. In many of the best restaurants. San Francisco is about as good as it gets, right up there with the best in the word. San Francisco benefits from so many chefs of different national origins and regional training being able to share their cuisine highlights with a customer base that loves to explore. San Francisco has extraordinary French, Italian, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Mexican, Moroccan, Spanish, Caribbean, American, etc,

JG probably suffered (IMO) from the same shortfall as Daniel...customer service that wasn't memorable, but honestly a cuisine (French) that allows the chefs to get too complacent.

Glad to see Ginza Onodera upgraded to 2 stars. That place is a standout. Rouge Tomate being a 1 star...meh. I went there last month and came away unimpressed by the limited menu. I ate at Cote on Saturday night...one Michelin star? Feels a bit aggressive / soon.

Sad to see Junoon drop off the list - they do excellent Indian cuisine. Cagen disappearing is a bit of a surprise as well. It certainly feels like the NYC food scene is taking a hit in the eyes of Michelin reviewers...

ETA: Misread the original post; Junoon is now the only Indian restaurant to have a Michelin star. Glad it didn't lose it!

Completely agree with you on JG. I ate twice over the summer and while food was great, service was meh (but still better than Daniel).

Plus, JG automatically starts me off in a disappointing mood when, without fail, they ask �have you dined with us before?� Clearly they fail to use Opentable to its fullest potential when they could have easily seen that I was there just 2 weeks prior.

Rant over!

I'm happy for Sushi Ginza Onodera! Will make a point to go.

I had a great meal at Jean-Georges in August (classic tasting menu), though my vegetarian companion had a pretty uninspired tasting menu. Two of her courses were just larger portions of amuses bouche, and another was just a salad with romaine lettuce, beets, and goat cheese. She and I were both puzzled; in the past she has had wonderful vegetarian menus there. I know this is a matter of disagreement on this board but I doubt the JG situation would have been due to service issues. I'm also skeptical it's due to complacency since the new dishes are continually inventive and not strictly French; he infuses Asian ingredients and techniques. I think it's lack of consistency.

I'm disappointed Atera stayed at 2.

Have to post some of the photos, but Funky Gourmet in ATH was one of the better 2-star experiences I've had, and well worth the cost (a bargain, relatively, for a 2-star place). Attentive service, knowledgeable sommelier, creative but well-executed courses, great highlighting of Greek traditions and ingredients... definitely was worth it.

Hytra (1 star) was good, but IMHO not up to the 1-star experiences I've had in DC and HKG this year.

Did JG just lose a star? Dine there 2 years ago. Service was meh, like you said. I was in the middle of a business dinner where everyone dressed up in suit. I was feeling uncomfortable, but found the food to be very solid. Every dish was good to great.
JG went around and made small talks to the guest when I was there.

Indeed a shock with JG!

I booked a meal at Onodera immediately after I saw the list, figured they're gonna be much busier now.

On the Athens front I can recommend Varoulko Seaside.

Went last year and one of the best value Michelin Star experiences I've had anywhere, particular for dinner. I don't remember the specifics but we did an excellent tasting menu for something like 65 Euros a head for about 8 or 9 courses. Beautiful dining room right on the water too.
http://varoulko.gr/

Agreed on Cote. I thought it was a solid Korean BBQ joint. Some cuts of meat were much better than others. Definitely didn't think it was star-worthy.