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gaobest Jun 29, 2020 9:43 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32493752)
Ok...why would you make 2 different shapes of pasta? I still am baffled as to why you can't all get on the same page rather than running a restaurant with multiple choices for dinner .
how did you make the cilantro chutney ?

I bought a specific pasta separator at a restaurant supply shop so that we can cook 2 pasta shapes in the same big wide pot. It was a very welcome $39.99 or whatever it cost. It’s a tall wire/mesh strainer for cooking pasta. I know restaurants have big boiling areas and that they need to cook different pastas at the same time for a table.
cilantro chutney - my spouse found an easy recipe using a blender. Cilantro, lime juice, some pepper (suggestion of Serrano or an India green, but we only had bell). I haven’t had any chutney because I had spaghetti. But the cilantro chutney required a minute or three.

as for 2 different shapes of pasta... why not? What can’t I do? Ok. I cannot parachute or fly aircraft.

kipper Jun 29, 2020 10:00 am


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32493752)
Ok...why would you make 2 different shapes of pasta? I still am baffled as to why you can't all get on the same page rather than running a restaurant with multiple choices for dinner .

Same.

gaobest Jun 29, 2020 10:50 am

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Just as an example, these ACF poker plaques cost $35 apiece. What normal person pays $35 for a single poker plaque for a fun home poker game when $35 would cover hundreds of individual chips? That’s the kind of degen kitchen cooker that I am!

JBord Jun 29, 2020 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32493773)

as for 2 different shapes of pasta... why not? What can’t I do? Ok. I cannot parachute or fly aircraft.

I say go for it. Although not my style, I would definitely love the leftovers for my lunches!

I had a good friend in college that grew up in a big (but not huge) Italian family. I loved going to his house for dinner because there would be about 3 entrees and a huge bowl of pasta on the table for about 7 people. This was normal for them. It was unusual to me then, but it made an impression on me, thinking how wonderful it must have been to have such a nice spread for dinner every night. Now, looking back, I just wonder how his mother had the time. And the whole family was surprisingly thin too!

bensyd Jun 29, 2020 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32493773)

as for 2 different shapes of pasta... why not? What can’t I do? Ok. I cannot parachute or fly aircraft.

I reckon go for it. If you enjoy it then do it. Personally, I think you got the pastas matched up to the wrong sauces though. ;)

work2fly Jun 29, 2020 7:50 pm

Homemade chicken curry with lemon rice.

Served with a jar of pickled mango that seems to be exponentially more spicy than the last time it was opened.

Heading back to the kitchen for a spoon or two of yogurt.

gaobest Jun 29, 2020 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32495050)
I reckon go for it. If you enjoy it then do it. Personally, I think you got the pastas matched up to the wrong sauces though. ;)

the penne was with olive oil and Parmesan cheese - great staple for children. Do you prefer this shape with marinara? It works but I think any tube (or non-noodle) is fine with just Parmesan and olive oil.

supper tonight:
(still full from luncheon)
Haagen daaz strawberry ice cream
Safeway organic butter pecan ice cream

bensyd Jun 29, 2020 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32495214)
the penne was with olive oil and Parmesan cheese - great staple for children. Do you prefer this shape with marinara? It works but I think any tube (or non-noodle) is fine with just Parmesan and olive oil.

Yeah, I prefer penne (specifically the rigate typem which is sort of roughed up so holds a sauce even better) for marinara. And for oil based stuff or something like carbonara then I'd use spaghetti. I know Italian-American classic is spaghetti with meatballs, but it's an exercise in futility trying to eat it. The pasta doesn't hold the sauce of the meatballs so you end up eating plain pasta followed by a big bowl of marinara meatballs! :D

Try your parmesan and olive oil concoction with spaghetti, maybe an egg yolk too and a little lemon juice. Heaven.

kipper Jun 30, 2020 6:36 am


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32495293)
Yeah, I prefer penne (specifically the rigate typem which is sort of roughed up so holds a sauce even better) for marinara. And for oil based stuff or something like carbonara then I'd use spaghetti. I know Italian-American classic is spaghetti with meatballs, but it's an exercise in futility trying to eat it. The pasta doesn't hold the sauce of the meatballs so you end up eating plain pasta followed by a big bowl of marinara meatballs! :D

Try your parmesan and olive oil concoction with spaghetti, maybe an egg yolk too and a little lemon juice. Heaven.

I agree. I much prefer penne and some of the shaped pastas for marinara.

JBord Jun 30, 2020 7:26 am


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32495293)
Yeah, I prefer penne (specifically the rigate typem which is sort of roughed up so holds a sauce even better) for marinara. And for oil based stuff or something like carbonara then I'd use spaghetti. .


Originally Posted by kipper (Post 32496037)
I agree. I much prefer penne and some of the shaped pastas for marinara.

Discovering that different pastas hold sauces differently changed my pasta experience a few years ago. I often still have to Google the matchups, but it makes a difference. Last night I made bucatini with an olive oil sauce (EV olive oil, pasta water, crushed red pepper, anchovy paste, shallots, garlic, parsley) and shrimp. Grated parm. I had only used bucatini in carbonara previously, but this was a good combo.

gaobest Jun 30, 2020 7:42 am


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32496151)
Discovering that different pastas hold sauces differently changed my pasta experience a few years ago. I often still have to Google the matchups, but it makes a difference. Last night I made bucatini with an olive oil sauce (EV olive oil, pasta water, crushed red pepper, anchovy paste, shallots, garlic, parsley) and shrimp. Grated parm. I had only used bucatini in carbonara previously, but this was a good combo.

your bucatini dish sounds lovely. For me, spaghetti and meatballs or sausage is a constant favorite and it’s what I enjoy cooking and eating. With all the fancy delicious pasta meals I’ve had at restaurants, I still prefer spaghetti and meatballs. Despite making my own marinara sauce with canned DOP Marzano whole tomatoes, I’ve recently discovered and loved the Rao brand way too much.

I’ll chop fresh organic cilantro to make a chimichurri sauce or pico de Gallo, both just sauces for dipping, yet for my favorite spaghetti and meatballs entree, I’m using dried pasta, jarred rao sauce, and preformed packaged raw meatballs. And yes, a favorite supper would be a grilled steak with a side of spaghetti marinara (no meatballs needed). I’m a total degen.

PresRDC Jun 30, 2020 8:03 am

Rao is definitely the best of the jarred sauces. Used to only be available in the NYC metro area, but has gone wider in recent years.

Jaimito Cartero Jun 30, 2020 8:17 am


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 32496248)
Rao is definitely the best of the jarred sauces. Used to only be available in the NYC metro area, but has gone wider in recent years.

Selling at that little store, Costco, would be considered a little wider...

Jaimito Cartero Jun 30, 2020 8:21 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32496199)
your bucatini dish sounds lovely. For me, spaghetti and meatballs or sausage is a constant favorite and it’s what I enjoy cooking and eating. With all the fancy delicious pasta meals I’ve had at restaurants, I still prefer spaghetti and meatballs. Despite making my own marinara sauce with canned DOP Marzano whole tomatoes, I’ve recently discovered and loved the Rao brand way too much.

I love a good pasta with meatballs or spicy Italian sausage. Some good Pecorino Romano over it is even better. Never tried the Rao sauce. Seems it’s twice as expensive as the other stuff Costco sells, but I might have to try it.

kipper Jun 30, 2020 8:27 am


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 32496248)
Rao is definitely the best of the jarred sauces. Used to only be available in the NYC metro area, but has gone wider in recent years.

When they first expanded beyond the NYC metro area, I could only find Rao's in Wegman's. Now, they seem to be in every grocery store.

That said, years ago, I stumbled onto 10-15 jars of it at a sale our local natural foods warehouse hosts to benefit Relay for Life. They take customer returns (i.e., a case was damaged during shipment, so the customer returned it, and 11 of the 12 jars were not damaged) and sell them at incredibly low price points. The "damaged" goods are accumulated throughout the year and they usually host two or three sales each year. One year, I was able to snag several jars of Rao's sauces for between $0.50-$2/jar. Other great finds included packages of Biscoff cookies (those that sell for $2.50/package at Target and Walmart), for $0.50/package, 20 lb. bags of premium dog food for $10/bag, and cases of DaVinci penne for between $1-$6/case, depending on what time it was. It started out at $6/case, but as the day and sale progressed, they eventually dropped the price to $1/case. I bought one case at $6, and then bought another 3 or 4 cases at $1/case.

lhrsfo Jun 30, 2020 9:03 am


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32496151)
Discovering that different pastas hold sauces differently changed my pasta experience a few years ago. I often still have to Google the matchups, but it makes a difference. Last night I made bucatini with an olive oil sauce (EV olive oil, pasta water, crushed red pepper, anchovy paste, shallots, garlic, parsley) and shrimp. Grated parm. I had only used bucatini in carbonara previously, but this was a good combo.

Agreed entirely - and some of the pea or lentil based pastas are particularly good with light but flavoursome sauces, since you need to overcome their stronger initial flavours. Tonight I'm having a green lentil pasta with Puttanesca sauce which I'm really looking forward to.

Having said that, I find basic spaghetti goes well with pretty well any good sauce and, combined with a good Bolognese, it can't be beat. All the comments upthread about meatballs with spaghetti I find very odd - it seems an odd combination and one I've only seen in the USA and never tried.

PresRDC Jun 30, 2020 9:13 am

When we moved to IN from CT a year ago, I expected not to be able to find two of the my most important cooking ingredients: 1) Rao's marinara sauce; and 2) Polly-O Whole Milk Mozzarella (the eprfect melting mozzarella for baked pasta dishes). Fortunately, both are available, although the Polly-O only at Walmart of all places. Some weeks, I hit 4 grocery stores to get everything I need.

corky Jun 30, 2020 9:28 am


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32495293)
Yeah, I prefer penne (specifically the rigate typem which is sort of roughed up so holds a sauce even better) for marinara. And for oil based stuff or something like carbonara then I'd use spaghetti. I know Italian-American classic is spaghetti with meatballs, but it's an exercise in futility trying to eat it. The pasta doesn't hold the sauce of the meatballs so you end up eating plain pasta followed by a big bowl of marinara meatballs! :D

Try your parmesan and olive oil concoction with spaghetti, maybe an egg yolk too and a little lemon juice. Heaven.

this
i have been eating soft foods this week because of dental stuff. Twice i have made bucatini....i beat an egg yolk with olive oil, garlic, fresh lemon juice and zest, and lots of fresh grated parm. I dump the hot bucatini in which cooks the egg. I then add spoonfuls of the cooking water to make it a sauce. When not going strictly soft, i sometimes throw a handful of arugula in too to up the nutrition.
i almost never eat bucatini in public despite it being my very favorite ....there is no graceful way to eat it....it has a mind of it's own.

JBord Jun 30, 2020 11:31 am


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32496199)
Despite making my own marinara sauce with canned DOP Marzano whole tomatoes, I’ve recently discovered and loved the Rao brand way too much.


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 32496248)
Rao is definitely the best of the jarred sauces. Used to only be available in the NYC metro area, but has gone wider in recent years.

I haven't tried the pasta sauce, but recently discovered Rao pizza sauce when the store was out of my favorite locally made sauce. I still prefer my usual, but Rao makes a very good pizza sauce. Nearly all the other substitutes I've tried have been too sweet and just not good.


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 32496416)

Having said that, I find basic spaghetti goes well with pretty well any good sauce and, combined with a good Bolognese, it can't be beat. All the comments upthread about meatballs with spaghetti I find very odd - it seems an odd combination and one I've only seen in the USA and never tried.

Agree on the Bolognese. I've never been a fan of the Italian-American spaghetti and meatballs. I believe a truer Italian version would be spaghetti, with one large meatball on the side? I'm sure, in our typical American way, we took a big juicy meatball and decided to turn it into 10 small ones so they'd cook faster and we could sell more. :)


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32496490)
i almost never eat bucatini in public despite it being my very favorite ....there is no graceful way to eat it....it has a mind of it's own.

lol...thought it was just me. It's something about the extra thickness that makes it go every which way. But that doesn't stop me from eating it in public!

corky Jun 30, 2020 12:35 pm


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32496892)
I







lol...thought it was just me. It's something about the extra thickness that makes it go every which way. But that doesn't stop me from eating it in public!

Maybe I am too concerned about my dignity. :D There is absolutely no way to eat it without it coming alive and flapping all over the place and splashing sauce on my face or clothes. I have even broken it in half before putting in the boiling water thinking smaller pieces would be more manageable but that didn't help. And it for sure won't twirl on a fork....or at least it will pretend to and the minute you pick up the fork it all flies off. I find that bringing my mouth about 3" from the bowl and working very fast gets some in my gullet before it can escape but I am not going to do that in a restaurant. It is still my favorite pasta. And my favorite is carbonara with bucatini which I had in Rome a year ago tomorrow for my birthday lunch. And for dinner I had cacio de pepe. My mouth is watering just thinking about it.

PresRDC Jun 30, 2020 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32496892)
I haven't tried the pasta sauce, but recently discovered Rao pizza sauce when the store was out of my favorite locally made sauce. I still prefer my usual, but Rao makes a very good pizza sauce. Nearly all the other substitutes I've tried have been too sweet and just not good.

Indeed. The reason I like Rao's is because it is not at all sweet. I don't like sweet sauce.

gaobest Jun 30, 2020 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 32496282)
Selling at that little store, Costco, would be considered a little wider...

Rao’s sauce is owned by a food company that also has Stonyfeld yogurt and other brands.


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 32496248)
Rao is definitely the best of the jarred sauces. Used to only be available in the NYC metro area, but has gone wider in recent years.

i only noticed Rao’s a year or two ago.


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 32496308)
I love a good pasta with meatballs or spicy Italian sausage. Some good Pecorino Romano over it is even better. Never tried the Rao sauce. Seems it’s twice as expensive as the other stuff Costco sells, but I might have to try it.

it costs more and is worth it. Once I sigh-bought the other brand at Costco when they were out of Rao’s marinara and I was utterly disappointed. I complained about it on the Costco thread.


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 32496449)
When we moved to IN from CT a year ago, I expected not to be able to find two of the my most important cooking ingredients: 1) Rao's marinara sauce; and 2) Polly-O Whole Milk Mozzarella (the eprfect melting mozzarella for baked pasta dishes). Fortunately, both are available, although the Polly-O only at Walmart of all places. Some weeks, I hit 4 grocery stores to get everything I need.

i’ve seen Polly-O at Restaurant Depot in sf. I’ve definitely searched many a shop to get the brands we love.


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 32496892)
I haven't tried the pasta sauce, but recently discovered Rao pizza sauce when the store was out of my favorite locally made sauce. I still prefer my usual, but Rao makes a very good pizza sauce. Nearly all the other substitutes I've tried have been too sweet and just not good...
Agree on the Bolognese!

i love bolognese but now love the convenience of Rao’s. I get their pizza sauce at Safeway and theoretically the marinara at Costco despite having avoided Costco since 3/16.


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 32497103)
Indeed. The reason I like Rao's is because it is not at all sweet. I don't like sweet sauce.

agreed. Swoon. I love Rao’s.

wrp96 Jun 30, 2020 3:33 pm

Dinner tonight will be grilled pineapple and strip steaks, with stir fried vegetables and coconut rice.

JBord Jun 30, 2020 3:45 pm

Buffalo chicken wraps and a green salad. Last dinner before we head to the lake house, so didn't want leftovers!

gaobest Jun 30, 2020 8:38 pm

Cheeseburgers on roll-ppang
Oven fries
Caesar salad (new best recipe)

Haagen daaz chocolate & Robbins rocky road in bowl
Robbins rocky road & Robbins Icing on the (Susie)cake in bowl with waffle cone
robbins icing on the (Susie)cake & Haagen daaz fresh mango on waffle cone


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ILuvParis Jun 30, 2020 9:28 pm

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Home made pan pizza baked on the grill. I used Chris Bianco’s recipe sauce. Delish!

lhrsfo Jul 1, 2020 7:56 am

I haven't got a clue. Invited round to friends for the first time in over 3 months. Lockdown lifting is a wonderful thing!

gaobest Jul 1, 2020 9:17 am


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 32499100)
I haven't got a clue. Invited round to friends for the first time in over 3 months. Lockdown lifting is a wonderful thing!

have fun and let us know what you enjoy :-)

bensyd Jul 2, 2020 6:57 am

Pasta with tuna sauce. I used San Marzano, they really are worth the extra $. Get some garlic in let it mellow in oil then remove, get the oil almost to smoking then drop the tomatoes in so it almost fries in the oil. Real comfort food for me.

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gaobest Jul 2, 2020 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32501872)
Pasta with tuna sauce. I used San Marzano, they really are worth the extra $. Get some garlic in let it mellow in oil then remove, get the oil almost to smoking then drop the tomatoes in so it almost fries in the oil. Real comfort food for me.

lovely - how do you do the tuna part? Do you add canned tuna to the tomatoes?
i’ve had spaghetti and sardines at an Italian restaurant in sf (the one on Columbus which is near what used to be Clown Alley) and I forget if it had tomatoes or just olive oil. Yummy.

bensyd Jul 2, 2020 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32503042)
lovely - how do you do the tuna part? Do you add canned tuna to the tomatoes?

Yep. Right at the end. Canned tuna is a cooked product, you don't need to cook it again! Also added some capers.

wrp96 Jul 2, 2020 3:55 pm

grilled brats, roasted brussels sprouts and cauliflower, and broccoli slaw w/ cucumbers, radishes, almonds, and craisins and green goddess dressing.

Finkface Jul 3, 2020 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 32503303)
grilled brats....

Lol! I read it as grilled bats. And thinking isn’t that how we got into this mess in the first place? :D

corky Jul 3, 2020 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by Finkface (Post 32505945)
Lol! I read it as grilled bats. And thinking isn’t that how we got into this mess in the first place? :D

:D
like, like, like. like

work2fly Jul 3, 2020 8:16 pm

Roasted chicken and veggies, gravy, egg noodles, and (quite) a few glasses of Pinot.

gaobest Jul 3, 2020 8:52 pm

Leftovers as we prep and enjoy Hamilton

short rib stew (minor curry) and white rice
baked potato with butter & sharp cheddar
Cocoa Puffs & whole milk and cheddar roll-ppangs

Ice creams:
Robbins rocky road and B&J coffee toffee crunch on waffle cone
Haagen daaz chocolate
B&J coffee toffee crunch, Safeway organic butter pecan, and Robbins cherries jubilee with Tate’s oatmeal cookie

much ice water

exerda Jul 3, 2020 9:42 pm

Scallops in a yuzu/orange/sesame sauce. Great flavors; if I make this again, I'll add a bit of cornstarch to thicken the sauce.

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corky Jul 3, 2020 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32506335)
Scallops in a yuzu/orange/sesame sauce. Great flavors; if I make this again, I'll add a bit of cornstarch to thicken the sauce.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a64cdaca5b.jpg

Wow..beautiful dinner and beautiful setting.

bensyd Jul 4, 2020 4:25 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 32506335)
Scallops in a yuzu/orange/sesame sauce. Great flavors; if I make this again, I'll add a bit of cornstarch to thicken the sauce.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a64cdaca5b.jpg

Geez, I need to lift my photo game, that's like the cover of a cookbook!. Food looks great too.

bensyd Jul 4, 2020 4:27 am

Chicken schnitzel (on the new skillet) with mash and mixed leaf salad.

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