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gaobest Nov 27, 2020 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32847982)
You are having both turkey on rolls and also over rice? And how do you shrink wrap at home/

Family members will have turkey sandwiches; I want the turkey rice.
i didn’t truly shrink wrap but I did put plastic wrap over the plate of turkey.


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32847984)
Probably a couple hours total, usually with some carrots and onions and any leftover gravy, gel and skin. I leave the meat on and then pick it off by hand afterwards (it pretty much falls off the bones by then) to ensure there are no bones or cartilage, etc. in the final product. I then strain the liquid, thicken it and season it and return the meat to the "gravy." I sometimes add some bullion if the poultry flavor isn't strong enough.

I assume that the bones themselves won’t melt in 2 hours - do you then dispose of the bones or can you do something else with them?
ive never boiled bones so all of this is new to me; I’ve read much here and still get confused. It’s like when a person discovers airline mileage programs with all the options and rules :-)

ILuvParis Nov 27, 2020 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32847982)
You are having both turkey on rolls and also over rice? And how do you shrink wrap at home/

You can get the machine at Costco. :)

ILuvParis Nov 27, 2020 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32847994)

I assume that the bones themselves won’t melt in 2 hours - do you then dispose of the bones or can you do something else with them?
ive never boiled bones so all of this is new to me; I’ve read much here and still get confused. It’s like when a person discovers airline mileage programs with all the options and rules :-)

The bones don't melt and go in the trash. The 2 hours is a guess. When the meat falls off the bones and everything collapses, that's long enough though the longer you cook it, the richer the broth. :)

You would do the same with a beef soup bone and you can make soup with this liquid also (chicken noodle, chicken vegetable, etc.).

corky Nov 27, 2020 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32847994)
Family members will have turkey sandwiches; I want the turkey rice.
i didn’t truly shrink wrap but I did put plastic wrap over the plate of turkey.


I assume that the bones themselves won’t melt in 2 hours - do you then dispose of the bones or can you do something else with them?
ive never boiled bones so all of this is new to me; I’ve read much here and still get confused. It’s like when a person discovers airline mileage programs with all the options and rules :-)

I thought that you are the only one who will eat leftovers. Is your wife now on board with them too?
I recommend that you simmer the bones rather than boil...especially if you are planning on using some of the meat that is still on them. I usually remove as much meat as possible so it isn't getting overcooked but either way boiling causes the fat to adhere to the stock and can make it greasy.

ILuvParis Nov 27, 2020 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32848010)
I thought that you are the only one who will eat leftovers. Is your wife now on board with them too?
I recommend that you simmer the bones rather than boil...especially if you are planning on using some of the meat that is still on them. I usually remove as much meat as possible so it isn't getting overcooked but either way boiling causes the fat to adhere to the stock and can make it greasy.

Good points. I usually to that too because the meat also gets stringy when cooked a long time so it's nice to have some larger intact pieces that have been previously removed. :)

gaobest Nov 27, 2020 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32848000)
The bones don't melt and go in the trash. The 2 hours is a guess. When the meat falls off the bones and everything collapses, that's long enough though the longer you cook it, the richer the broth. :)

You would do the same with a beef soup bone and you can make soup with this liquid also (chicken noodle, chicken vegetable, etc.).

thanks! I’m going to screen shot these tips this time :-)


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32848010)
I thought that you are the only one who will eat leftovers. Is your wife now on board with them too?
I recommend that you simmer the bones rather than boil...especially if you are planning on using some of the meat that is still on them. I usually remove as much meat as possible so it isn't getting overcooked but either way boiling causes the fat to adhere to the stock and can make it greasy.

apparently thanksgiving leftovers are very popular - and a mega rarity for my spouse since we’ve had thanksgiving buffet at a club for the past many years.


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32848016)
Good points. I usually to that too because the meat also gets stringy when cooked a long time so it's nice to have some larger intact pieces that have been previously removed. :)

I definitely separated as much meat as possible from the bones but didn’t do a perfect job. I did see liquid gel and maybe blood gel with the carcass meat that’s below the breast and legs (ie not the drumstick or thigh bones). When I finally boil / simmer the bones, I’ll remove more meat but I’ll probably try to eat the leftover meat before boiling the bones.

y freezer is again full so 99% sure that I’ll cook frozen Asian dumplings for supper :-)

gaobest Nov 27, 2020 3:54 pm

Hawaiian rolls with room temp breast meat; some with tjs cranberry sauce

oven-heated turkey
oven-heated sweet potato casserole
bbc
Taiwan turkey rice

the oven-heated turkey worked out so perfectly that I needed zero garnish with it :-)


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bensyd Nov 27, 2020 6:17 pm

I avoided the laksa this morning because by 11am it was already 38 degrees (100f). Instead I got some sort of falafel plate with kale and chilli falafel.

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gaobest Nov 27, 2020 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by bensyd (Post 32848395)
I avoided the laksa this morning because by 11am it was already 38 degrees (100f). Instead I got some sort of falafel plate with kale and chilli falafel.

gorgeous food. Lucky about the weather - it’s only 60-ish F in San Francisco. 100 is warm for me but I know that some here are facing 38F and not 38C!!!

bensyd Nov 27, 2020 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by gaobest (Post 32848410)
gorgeous food. Lucky about the weather - it’s only 60-ish F in San Francisco. 100 is warm for me but I know that some here are facing 38F and not 38C!!!

Yeah 60 during the day is no fun. But it's just just shy of 42 here, that's 108, just too hot for me to want to venture outside. We must be pretty close to hitting the November record. Tomorrow will be just as hot too. We get pretty nice warm but not hot summers, but every now and then a furnace blows in from North-Western Australia/Outback and we fry for a few days.

Can't even fire up the BBQ tonight and sweat it out with a few mid-strengths because there is a total fire ban.

gaobest Nov 28, 2020 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32848016)
Good points. I usually to that too because the meat also gets stringy when cooked a long time so it's nice to have some larger intact pieces that have been previously removed. :)

Thanks again. Simmering to start.


Originally Posted by corky (Post 32848010)
I recommend that you simmer the bones rather than boil...especially if you are planning on using some of the meat that is still on them. I usually remove as much meat as possible so it isn't getting overcooked but either way boiling causes the fat to adhere to the stock and can make it greasy.

We love this turkey so much that I’ve had to remove the meat from the freezer and place in the fridge to thaw.
I’m running low on gravy so I’ll start the boil and then simmer.
Carcass etc

wow! Just froze this stuff on Thursday.


ps how much carrot / onion for the carcass? I’m using our large pot because I forgot to chop the carcass into smaller pieces prior to freezing :-)

Kalboz Nov 28, 2020 9:04 pm

Yesterday's leftover turkey & fixins ready for sandwiches!

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gaobest Nov 29, 2020 2:13 am

1a bowl of turkey broth with carrot parts and turkey meat pieces; fat not skimmed


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32848000)
The bones don't melt and go in the trash. The 2 hours is a guess. When the meat falls off the bones and everything collapses, that's long enough though the longer you cook it, the richer the broth. :)

You would do the same with a beef soup bone and you can make soup with this liquid also (chicken noodle, chicken vegetable, etc.).

omg I’m blown away. This stuff tastes good. I have total Stockholm. I’m so in love with Fred - so delicious. I keep wanting to freeze and make more future stock with these bones because I now have visions of trying to boil them so that they melt into becoming bone broth; this is because I believe that bone broth is water and bones where the bones have completely melted. So I don’t even know if that’s truly bone broth.
but I’m following iluvparis’ advice and the bones will go into the trash. Compost.


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ILuvParis Nov 29, 2020 10:31 am

Glad it's tasty, but I don't think boiling those bones again will get you much flavor. Go get a Costco rotisserie chicken, you'll have better success.

gaobest Nov 29, 2020 10:59 am


Originally Posted by ILuvParis (Post 32850966)
Glad it's tasty, but I don't think boiling those bones again will get you much flavor. Go get a Costco rotisserie chicken, you'll have better success.

thank you to you and corky so much for your guidance. I greatly appreciate it.
I confirm that I composted the bones despite feeling tempted to do more with them! I even had to pull out 2 canning jars from our extra pantry for the stock.
I’m actually curious to want to roast another turkey; perhaps I’ll buy an unseasoned one to season myself.

btw turkey heart - or whatever is within the carcass bones - it’s already been roasted so do I just eat it like any other turkey part?


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