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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 8:42 am
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
We could approach the question quantitatively though, no? How about looking at the number of Michelin starred restaurants per capita or something along those lines?
Yes, I suppose we could set criteria and then sort by country- Michelin wouldn't be my way to go as it seems some of these restaurants are really over-hyped- and I am not saying that the USA does not have some excellent restaurants- in particular Chicago and Manhattan spring to mind- although no better than Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, London, Madrid, Rome, Singapore, Sydney, Tokyo.....

Of course if we wanted to go the Michelin Star per capita route, the USA would indeed win with the 3200 people in Yountville.....
http://www.sunset.com/food-wine/flav...0400000019842/
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
We could approach the question quantitatively though, no? How about looking at the number of Michelin starred restaurants per capita or something along those lines?
Let us wait until Michelin covers mainland China, Korea and Vietnam, at least. Those are some of the best culinary regions in the World, according to my experience.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG
....Of course if we wanted to go the Michelin Star per capita route, the USA would indeed win with the 3200 people in Yountville.....
http://www.sunset.com/food-wine/flav...0400000019842/
El Bulli is in Roses Spain (18000 people in 45 sq. km) which is even less density than Yountville, as well as being a far better restaurant

Now, how is it that molecular gastronomy wasn't invented in the US (where they did invent how to squeeze cheeze through tiny holes under pressure and air dry it before it hit the ground)?
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by TRAVELSIG

Of course if we wanted to go the Michelin Star per capita route, the USA would indeed win with the 3200 people in Yountville.....
http://www.sunset.com/food-wine/flav...0400000019842/
i think a number of the european 3*'s are in places with less than 3000 population. by taking in a lot of the surrounding territory, vonnas has 2800.

once ate in a 2* that was about 10km down a single lane mud lane. there was a chateau, a barn, a swim pool and a tennis court. population was 4 or 5. always wondered what would happen if someone was coming from the other direction.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by slawecki
once ate in a 2* that was about 10km down a single lane mud lane. there was a chateau, a barn, a swim pool and a tennis court. population was 4 or 5. always wondered what would happen if someone was coming from the other direction.
I think that most of the Michelin restaurants in Belgium are like this. At the end of a single lane road out in the woods.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 1:49 pm
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Using the Michelin standard as the only measure to answer this question is, to use a Gastronomical term.... baloney.

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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 6:07 pm
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Using the Michelin standard as the only measure to answer this question is, to use a Gastronomical term.... baloney.
While I would agree on principle, I think from a standpoint of logistics, that's one of the only ways to do it.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 7:42 pm
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While I would agree on principle, I think from a standpoint of logistics, that's one of the only ways to do it.
Problem is Michelin either hasn't been to or has only just got to some of the best food nations in the world. Likewise it only looks at less than the top 0.1% of restaurants which says absolutely nothing about the rest.

There simply isn't an objective way to do it, there's only subjective judgements based on very limited experience which is why people have such radically different views on the topic
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 7:47 pm
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Problem is Michelin either hasn't been to or has only just got to some of the best food nations in the world. Likewise it only looks at less than the top 0.1% of restaurants which says absolutely nothing about the rest.
I agree they don't do every country in the world. But name me a worthy restaurant in Europe or the US that Michelin overlooked? If a restaurant rises to that level, they get the attention of Michelin pretty quickly.
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mecabq
Why do you say that? Plenty of people may dismiss the U.S., but this thread has advanced compelling arguments that the U.S. has the best food in the world, or at least it's not a silly question to ask. (And I am not referring to Outback, Olive Garden, and Prego!)

(And by the way, like many people here, I have traveled in and lived in many countries.)
+1. I agree.

The U.S. has great food, no question. It has breadth and depth. Great french, japanese, chinese, italian, mexican. You name it. It may not be as good as the home country, but it's pretty darn good for the most part!
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 10:17 pm
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I agree they don't do every country in the world. But name me a worthy restaurant in Europe or the US that Michelin overlooked? If a restaurant rises to that level, they get the attention of Michelin pretty quickly.
My point is they've basically skipped Asia and the south pacific. The fact that when they went to Japan they only bothered listing 1 star + restaurants and even though they barely scratched the surface in the first edition they gave more "stars" suggests that people who think great food exists only in europe or the US are wearing a monsterous pair of blinkers.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
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Using the Michelin standard as the only measure to answer this question is, to use a Gastronomical term.... baloney.
Why?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by magiciansampras
Why?
Lack of coverage.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by bensyd
Lack of coverage.
A number of excellent restaurants also opt not to participate in Michelin as they don't want to. At least in Italy, there is also a cost.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by bensyd
Lack of coverage.
Where doesn't Michelin cover that you would argue would be a serious candidate for "best food in the world"?
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