4th Tier Announcement Tomorrow (6/28)
Jul 27, 2009, 6:14 pm
#91
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Jul 27, 2009, 6:14 pm
#92
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I'm with AndyTLe - can't really see the incentive for going for Diamond over Platinum, given the 50K difference. Especially if you have SC access already through an AMEX Platinum card. But I sure do like the carryover MQM feature as an actual "enhancement". (I've been waiting a couple of years to use that last statement. Never thought I would get the chance.)
Jul 27, 2009, 6:16 pm
#93
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I just noticed that too...
O.K. so if right now (2009) you have close to 125K MQMs and do nothing, you'll be Plat next year and have NO MQMs to roll-over to 2010...so you'll start 2010 with no MQMs to help you get status for 2011
BUT
Has it been established that if you earn 125K MQMs this year (2009) that you will get Diamond status starting in Feb of 2010 and through Feb of 2011???
O.K. so if right now (2009) you have close to 125K MQMs and do nothing, you'll be Plat next year and have NO MQMs to roll-over to 2010...so you'll start 2010 with no MQMs to help you get status for 2011
BUT
Has it been established that if you earn 125K MQMs this year (2009) that you will get Diamond status starting in Feb of 2010 and through Feb of 2011???
Originally Posted by Insert page 6 from Sky Magazine
T&C ....
Rollover benefitsmeans MQM's earned in 2009 above the member's earned Medallion threshold level will be rolled over to 2010 and will count towards 2010 Medallion status qualification.
Rollover benefitsmeans MQM's earned in 2009 above the member's earned Medallion threshold level will be rolled over to 2010 and will count towards 2010 Medallion status qualification.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:18 pm
#94
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Knowing what we know right now, the two biggest perks for DM are:
1. 125% bonus miles
2. Free Sky Club membership
(also a plus is that PM's retain the skyteam elite plus tag)
If I understand this correctly, say I attain 200,000 MQM's by the end of the year 2009 - does that mean that I start next year off as a PM?
1. 125% bonus miles
2. Free Sky Club membership
(also a plus is that PM's retain the skyteam elite plus tag)
If I understand this correctly, say I attain 200,000 MQM's by the end of the year 2009 - does that mean that I start next year off as a PM?
Jul 27, 2009, 6:19 pm
#95
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Now there is a continuing benefit (well, until you hit 250 MQM's... no benefit after that
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Jul 27, 2009, 6:19 pm
#96
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Another way to think about 50K MQMs more will get your mid-tier status on any other domestic airline. I think it would be better to have elite status on two alliances.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:20 pm
#97
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Knowing what we know right now, the two biggest perks for DM are:
1. 125% bonus miles
2. Free Sky Club membership
(also a plus is that PM's retain the skyteam elite plus tag)
If I understand this correctly, say I attain 200,000 MQM's by the end of the year 2009 - does that mean that I start next year off as a PM?
1. 125% bonus miles
2. Free Sky Club membership
(also a plus is that PM's retain the skyteam elite plus tag)
If I understand this correctly, say I attain 200,000 MQM's by the end of the year 2009 - does that mean that I start next year off as a PM?
You know I was just thinking the same...if the jump to Diamond is 50K more MQMs over the Plat requirement...you think they would do better...
Would be nice for people with Amex Reserve or who flying mostly int'l (and get into lounges as a ST Elite +) to offer something in lieu of the club membership....
Would be nice for people with Amex Reserve or who flying mostly int'l (and get into lounges as a ST Elite +) to offer something in lieu of the club membership....
I'm with AndyTLe - can't really see the incentive for going for Diamond over Platinum, given the 50K difference. Especially if you have SC access already through an AMEX Platinum card. But I sure do like the carryover MQM feature as an actual "enhancement". (I've been waiting a couple of years to use that last statement. Never thought I would get the chance.)
Jul 27, 2009, 6:20 pm
#98
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And if you earn 250,000 MQMs/yr, you can take 2010 off from flying Delta and still keep status.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:21 pm
#99
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Also...Thanks WBurcham for clearing that up...
Jul 27, 2009, 6:22 pm
#100
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Am I incorrect that questions so far still to be answered are (including without limitation):
1. What are the SWU benefits (i.e. how many and what fares will they be applicable to)?
2. What are the companion upgrade benefits (i.e. will it be legacy DL style with non-status companions needing to be on higher than LUT fares and then just before flight, or NW style with non-status companions upgrading at the same time the PE upgrades on all flights even on deep discount coach).
Safe Travels.
1. What are the SWU benefits (i.e. how many and what fares will they be applicable to)?
2. What are the companion upgrade benefits (i.e. will it be legacy DL style with non-status companions needing to be on higher than LUT fares and then just before flight, or NW style with non-status companions upgrading at the same time the PE upgrades on all flights even on deep discount coach).
Safe Travels.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:22 pm
#101
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Interesting that DL is keeping E+ at Platinum - once CO is in Star, US, CO, UA and AA will all give international lounge access to mid-tier (50,000 miles/yr) elites - DL will be the only one with the higher level.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:23 pm
#102
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Am I incorrect that questions so far still to be answered are (including without limitation):
1. What are the SWU benefits (i.e. how many and what fares will they be applicable to)?
2. What are the companion upgrade benefits (i.e. will it be legacy DL style with non-status companions needing to be on higher than LUT fares and then just before flight, or NW style with non-status companions upgrading at the same time the PE upgrades on all flights even on deep discount coach).
1. What are the SWU benefits (i.e. how many and what fares will they be applicable to)?
2. What are the companion upgrade benefits (i.e. will it be legacy DL style with non-status companions needing to be on higher than LUT fares and then just before flight, or NW style with non-status companions upgrading at the same time the PE upgrades on all flights even on deep discount coach).
Question 2, it sounds like at least companions would need to be on L/U/T fares - it's my understanding that NW's already gone over to that way. No word on when upgrades would clear though.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:27 pm
#103
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Jul 27, 2009, 6:27 pm
#104
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I think my decision to go for Diamond will be based on how these Systemwide Upgrades will work. By far, a less restrictive Systemwide Upgrade (a la United) would the single most valuable perk IMO.
Jul 27, 2009, 6:28 pm
#105
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Since the current threshold rewards for 125K MQM is gifting Gold status...I'm assuming it is the same for becoming Diamond?
BTW how does that work with the switchover....
At 100K miles in 2009 you get threshold rewards, and then at 125K MQMS in 2009 you get more threshold rewards AND in 2010 you become Diamond...but does that mean you won't get any of the Diamond reward/benefits until you REQUALIFY for Diamond in 2010?
BTW how does that work with the switchover....
At 100K miles in 2009 you get threshold rewards, and then at 125K MQMS in 2009 you get more threshold rewards AND in 2010 you become Diamond...but does that mean you won't get any of the Diamond reward/benefits until you REQUALIFY for Diamond in 2010?