G'day Mate... We're Going to Sydney
#151
Join Date: May 2005
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Well, if that were the case, wouldn't early to Mid August on this route be showing some Low? I don't think they're doing that on LAX-SYD. I've been eyeing this route for months.
Another thing of note, the stupid "reward callendar" is useless. I've found several "Low" BE colored days, go to book, and there aren't any "Low" fares on that day. You can run it 1000 times and it'll still give you a 120K redemption on that day, never a "Low" to be found. Heck, I've even come back a day later and it still shows Low for the date I was looking at, still nothing to be found.
1) That shows how poor the Delta.com booking engine is.
2) Perhaps we should all file paperwork with our state AG's offices for false advertising Definately a bait and switch going on there.
3) This "three tier" reward structure sucks. Never any Low available, ever.
Another thing of note, the stupid "reward callendar" is useless. I've found several "Low" BE colored days, go to book, and there aren't any "Low" fares on that day. You can run it 1000 times and it'll still give you a 120K redemption on that day, never a "Low" to be found. Heck, I've even come back a day later and it still shows Low for the date I was looking at, still nothing to be found.
1) That shows how poor the Delta.com booking engine is.
2) Perhaps we should all file paperwork with our state AG's offices for false advertising Definately a bait and switch going on there.
3) This "three tier" reward structure sucks. Never any Low available, ever.
#152
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Chicago
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I just checked BE award seats to Sydney R/T from LAX > SYD starting 7/25/09 and going all the way to 6/16/2010. No "Low" redemptions at all. A smattering of "High" through 6/16. The rest were "Med" at 240K. FTR, PM with "I am traveling on this itinerary" checked. Searching coach for the next two months I did see a few "Low" options. But for BE ... none!
Anyone snagged a "Low" BE to Sydney?
Anyone snagged a "Low" BE to Sydney?
"Low" BE ticket from North America to SYD should be 120K
#153
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As has been fairly heavily documented in another thread, DL is now releasing much more "Low" F/J awards within 2-3 weeks of travel. Useless to 90% of the travelers out there, while the very flexible last minute can-take-1-week-off-work-whenever-they-want-to crowd benefits . Have I snagged one personally? No, but I have seen a few within the last couple of weeks.
#154
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Was this published on delta.com and removed? Or am I just looking in the wrong place. 120K sounds pretty "low" to me for BE to SYD. Thanks.
I too have seen a lot of "Low" availability in general for BE tickets under the 21 day mark. Agreed, most people cannot make their plans this quickly--me included. It is no accident that this also corresponds to the $75-$150 award ticket booking fee that is imposed when booking under the 21 day mark..
#155
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I did not know this. I guess I imagined more availability when booking TATL awards in the past.
Was this published on delta.com and removed? Or am I just looking in the wrong place. 120K sounds pretty "low" to me for BE to SYD. Thanks.
According to delta.com, this fee is waived for PMs and "Delta Platinum & Delta Reserve Cardmember". I have to fill in the blanks and assume they mean "Delta Platinum Amex and Delta Reserve Amex Cardmember". But I see your "" point.
Was this published on delta.com and removed? Or am I just looking in the wrong place. 120K sounds pretty "low" to me for BE to SYD. Thanks.
According to delta.com, this fee is waived for PMs and "Delta Platinum & Delta Reserve Cardmember". I have to fill in the blanks and assume they mean "Delta Platinum Amex and Delta Reserve Amex Cardmember". But I see your "" point.
"As a Medallion® member, you are eligible for greater Award seat availability when booking Delta Economy Class Award Travel. This greater availability is also extended to any traveling companion in the same reservation. "
So I could be partially wrong...perhaps it does help with Intl coach though its not clear....but it sounds like it doesnt apply to BE tickets.
The 120 k I got from their chart online: https://www.delta.com/skymiles/use_m...eage/index.jsp I am assuming they are grouping Australia under Asia at 60k miles each way...but maybe they haven't updated their charts yet...in any case medium is definitely 240k, so 50% of that is 120k which makes sense..?
#156
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#157
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I thought low was 150K. Has anyone actually booked at 120K?
#158
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Well apparently syrwhizzy did but thought that was not a "low" redemption. See mile post #145.
#159
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I've tried to get a response from Delta (via e-mail) regarding the award levels for CONUS/CAN/ALASKA - OCEANIA. So far, I'm reaching a dead end:
Originally Posted by jjglaze77 Question # 1
Hi there! Just a quick question for you: What are the award redemption mileage levels for travel to Australia? Delta.com seems to have left that information out:
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/use_mi...eage/index.jsp
I'd like to know the Low/Mid/High levels for both Coach and Business if possible. Thanks!
http://www.delta.com/skymiles/use_mi...eage/index.jsp
I'd like to know the Low/Mid/High levels for both Coach and Business if possible. Thanks!
Originally Posted by Delta Response # 1
Thank you for your e-mail regarding Delta's SkyMiles program.
At this time, Award travel using Delta Airlines is offered within and
between all areas except the following:
Within Central America
Within Indian Subcontinent
Within or between Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific and the Indian
Ocean
You may wish to use our SkyMiles partners. For questions and bookings
regarding Delta's International Partner Awards, please call our
International Reservations number at 800-241-4141 and ask for the
Partner Awards Desk. One of our representatives will be happy to assist
you.
Your selection of Delta is appreciated, and we will always do our best
to merit your confidence and support.
Sincerely,
At this time, Award travel using Delta Airlines is offered within and
between all areas except the following:
Within Central America
Within Indian Subcontinent
Within or between Australia, New Zealand, South Pacific and the Indian
Ocean
You may wish to use our SkyMiles partners. For questions and bookings
regarding Delta's International Partner Awards, please call our
International Reservations number at 800-241-4141 and ask for the
Partner Awards Desk. One of our representatives will be happy to assist
you.
Your selection of Delta is appreciated, and we will always do our best
to merit your confidence and support.
Sincerely,
Originally Posted by jjglaze77 Question # 2
I don't believe my original question was understood. I'd like to know the Low/Mid/High award levels for both coach and business class for travel between the US and Australia/South Pacific/Oceania. In the past (working off memory hear) prior to the 3 tiered system, the "Low" Award levels were 100,000 Miles RT for coach and 150,000 Miles RT for Business, but the only travel options were on Korean via ICN or Hawaiian via HNL. Now that there are more options to the south pacific, I'd like to know what one could expect to pay for the following options (which I would assume would all fall under the same category):
LAX-SYD, DL
LAX-PPT, AF
USA-ICN-SYD/BNE/MEL/AKL/NAN, KE
USA-CAN-SYD/MEL, CZ
USA-HNL-SYD/PPT/PPG, HA
Delta's website does NOT indicate costs for these awards as I indicated in my original inquiry. I'm curious why this important area of the world is left off of Delta's multi-airline award chart, particularly considering SYD is now served by DL aircraft.
Thanks for your help!
LAX-SYD, DL
LAX-PPT, AF
USA-ICN-SYD/BNE/MEL/AKL/NAN, KE
USA-CAN-SYD/MEL, CZ
USA-HNL-SYD/PPT/PPG, HA
Delta's website does NOT indicate costs for these awards as I indicated in my original inquiry. I'm curious why this important area of the world is left off of Delta's multi-airline award chart, particularly considering SYD is now served by DL aircraft.
Thanks for your help!
Originally Posted by Delta Response # 2
Thank you for your e-mail to Delta Air Lines.
Based on the information you have provided, your request cannot be
addressed via e-mail. Please contact our 24-hour Online Customer
Support Desk which is available to help you with any questions you may
have regarding delta.com. Please feel free to contact us at 888-750-3284
so that we may assist you.
Thank you for giving Delta the opportunity to serve your travel needs.
Sincerely,
Based on the information you have provided, your request cannot be
addressed via e-mail. Please contact our 24-hour Online Customer
Support Desk which is available to help you with any questions you may
have regarding delta.com. Please feel free to contact us at 888-750-3284
so that we may assist you.
Thank you for giving Delta the opportunity to serve your travel needs.
Sincerely,
#160
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It interesting that the exact mileage levels for Australia are not immediately available online or by emailing Delta. Perhaps Delta is still feeling out the market before they publish the numbers?
#161
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But, yes, it's frustrating when the automatons working in customer service copy and paste form letter responses that fail to answer questions into reply e-mails.
#162
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Northwest's World Perks program lists South Pacific on its award chart: http://www.nwa.com/worldperks/direct/charts/us49.shtml. According to this chart, someone could conceivably get a ticket from CONUS to Sydney for 50k miles each way up to 95k miles each way in coach. While this is not the answer you were looking for, it should reflect SkyMiles' award levels especially since folks can transfer miles back and forth between their World Perks and SkyMiles accounts.
But, yes, it's frustrating when the automatons working in customer service copy and paste form letter responses that fail to answer questions into reply e-mails.
But, yes, it's frustrating when the automatons working in customer service copy and paste form letter responses that fail to answer questions into reply e-mails.
#163
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Syracuse, NY
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So, I've been following the SYD fares and stuff for awhile, waiting for the right time to bite on this.
I just noticed their M fares have jumped $1,000.
Tickets for $2400-2500 are now floating at $3500!!!
To say I am *LIVID* is an understatement.
Does anyone see any decent M fares for upgrade with miles that I'm missing?
At the going rate Delta is about to get $0 instead of $2500. To raise it to $3500 is just rediculous when they haven't touched the low promo fares in coach.
Thoughts?
I just noticed their M fares have jumped $1,000.
Tickets for $2400-2500 are now floating at $3500!!!
To say I am *LIVID* is an understatement.
Does anyone see any decent M fares for upgrade with miles that I'm missing?
At the going rate Delta is about to get $0 instead of $2500. To raise it to $3500 is just rediculous when they haven't touched the low promo fares in coach.
Thoughts?
#164
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ABQ
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So, I've been following the SYD fares and stuff for awhile, waiting for the right time to bite on this.
I just noticed their M fares have jumped $1,000.
Tickets for $2400-2500 are now floating at $3500!!!
To say I am *LIVID* is an understatement.
Does anyone see any decent M fares for upgrade with miles that I'm missing?
At the going rate Delta is about to get $0 instead of $2500. To raise it to $3500 is just rediculous when they haven't touched the low promo fares in coach.
Thoughts?
I just noticed their M fares have jumped $1,000.
Tickets for $2400-2500 are now floating at $3500!!!
To say I am *LIVID* is an understatement.
Does anyone see any decent M fares for upgrade with miles that I'm missing?
At the going rate Delta is about to get $0 instead of $2500. To raise it to $3500 is just rediculous when they haven't touched the low promo fares in coach.
Thoughts?
#165
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Syracuse, NY
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