ExpertFlyer and Delta Air Lines: The Definitive Thread
Dec 17, 2007, 7:52 pm
#106
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 152
I prefer the KVS tool to ExpertFlyer in general, but was disappointed to learn that it can't display V inventory.
When asked about adding that as a new feature, the KVS author indicated this was 'currently impossible to add', but also noted that they are always looking for ways of displaying additional classes in the future.
When asked about adding that as a new feature, the KVS author indicated this was 'currently impossible to add', but also noted that they are always looking for ways of displaying additional classes in the future.
Jan 4, 2008, 2:07 pm
#107
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 208
Award Seats Visible on Expert Flyer ?
I am hoping any of the Expert Flyer users can answer this question. Can you see award seat (i.e. Skysaver and Skychoice) availability through Expert Flyer ? The award seat search function on Delta.com gives inconsistent results and I just dont trust it anymore. thanks!
Jan 4, 2008, 2:58 pm
#109
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 152
AFAIK the award ticket buckets are not available on ExpertFlyer.
Certain registration levels of the KVS Availability Tool return SkyTeam award availability. There are some limitations, but I've found this tool to be generally helpful in locating award availability on DL and partner airlines.
Certain registration levels of the KVS Availability Tool return SkyTeam award availability. There are some limitations, but I've found this tool to be generally helpful in locating award availability on DL and partner airlines.
Last edited by SpeedyJEP; Jan 4, 2008 at 4:25 pm
Jan 4, 2008, 3:55 pm
#110
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Right here
Posts: 2,940
Below is a list of DL's "special" fare codes that ExpertFlyer can show (you need to request them by entering the fare class when doing a search--they don't show by default). I believe the G bucket is also the domestic points award (not listed by EF) in addition to the domestic PMU bucket.
E Coach - Promotional Award
G First - Domestic PMU upgrade
V First - Domestic segment upgrade
X Business - Domestic segment upgrade
Z Business Elite - Upgrade with PMU or points
E Coach - Promotional Award
G First - Domestic PMU upgrade
V First - Domestic segment upgrade
X Business - Domestic segment upgrade
Z Business Elite - Upgrade with PMU or points
Jan 4, 2008, 5:21 pm
#111
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - PM (Sky Priority);HH - Gold; Marriott - Silver; National - Executive; DL Reserve AMEX
Posts: 5,234
Below is a list of DL's "special" fare codes that ExpertFlyer can show (you need to request them by entering the fare class when doing a search--they don't show by default). I believe the G bucket is also the domestic points award (not listed by EF) in addition to the domestic PMU bucket.
E Coach - Promotional Award
G First - Domestic PMU upgrade
V First - Domestic segment upgrade
X Business - Domestic segment upgrade
Z Business Elite - Upgrade with PMU or points
E Coach - Promotional Award
G First - Domestic PMU upgrade
V First - Domestic segment upgrade
X Business - Domestic segment upgrade
Z Business Elite - Upgrade with PMU or points
Jan 4, 2008, 5:33 pm
#112
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,399
Even on EF, you can't see the DL award buckets (N, O and R). Oh wait ... that's because ... they are ... transparent! 
Jan 5, 2008, 11:26 am
#113
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: New Smyrna Beach, FL, USA
Posts: 15
I must be doing something wrong....
Below is a list of DL's "special" fare codes that ExpertFlyer can show (you need to request them by entering the fare class when doing a search--they don't show by default). I believe the G bucket is also the domestic points award (not listed by EF) in addition to the domestic PMU bucket.
E Coach - Promotional Award
G First - Domestic PMU upgrade
V First - Domestic segment upgrade
X Business - Domestic segment upgrade
Z Business Elite - Upgrade with PMU or points
E Coach - Promotional Award
G First - Domestic PMU upgrade
V First - Domestic segment upgrade
X Business - Domestic segment upgrade
Z Business Elite - Upgrade with PMU or points
4 days away. It shows "V0" available, yet the upgrade is still pending. So,
I called Delta and said, "Hey, V shows available on these flights, can you
clear my upgrade?" and they say, "No. I show 1st is available, but upgrades
won't clear, except at the airport."
So, what don't I get. If V is Domestic Segment Upgrade, and its available,
and I'M PM, why hasn't the upgrade cleared???
Thanks for any clarification.
Jan 5, 2008, 11:31 am
#114
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,399
OK, so I looked on EF for "V" availability on 2 segments I'm flying on Monday,
4 days away. It shows "V0" available, yet the upgrade is still pending. So,
I called Delta and said, "Hey, V shows available on these flights, can you
clear my upgrade?" and they say, "No. I show 1st is available, but upgrades
won't clear, except at the airport."
So, what don't I get. If V is Domestic Segment Upgrade, and its available,
and I'M PM, why hasn't the upgrade cleared???
Thanks for any clarification.
4 days away. It shows "V0" available, yet the upgrade is still pending. So,
I called Delta and said, "Hey, V shows available on these flights, can you
clear my upgrade?" and they say, "No. I show 1st is available, but upgrades
won't clear, except at the airport."
So, what don't I get. If V is Domestic Segment Upgrade, and its available,
and I'M PM, why hasn't the upgrade cleared???
Thanks for any clarification.
Jan 5, 2008, 12:49 pm
#116
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VPS
Programs: DL DM/2MM, Etihad Gold, HHonors Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 4,787
Even on EF, you can't see the DL award buckets (N, O and R). Oh wait ... that's because ... they are ... transparent!
Jan 5, 2008, 12:56 pm
#117
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - PM (Sky Priority);HH - Gold; Marriott - Silver; National - Executive; DL Reserve AMEX
Posts: 5,234
Jan 5, 2008, 1:17 pm
#118
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,399
We need 7 more posts to explain the meanings of V1 and V4-V9. 
Jan 7, 2008, 7:18 am
#119
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: Delta SkyMiles, AA
Posts: 441
ExpertFlyer Problem
Trying to search on Z upgrade availability ATL-VIE in March and April and keep getting the following error message:
(Class Code Z: The requested information could not be retrieved or is not available. This is likely due to invalid input criteria or lack of access to the information from the airline. Please revise the search parameters and try again)
I checked and there are non-stop flights on the dsys I searched. Any suggestions?
(Class Code Z: The requested information could not be retrieved or is not available. This is likely due to invalid input criteria or lack of access to the information from the airline. Please revise the search parameters and try again)
I checked and there are non-stop flights on the dsys I searched. Any suggestions?