"Keep Delta My Delta" Campaign
Dec 3, 2006, 2:02 pm
#167
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If the request is denied then US could use whatever appeal process is possible (if any), but they would have no basis to sue DL. And even if they did, what damages could they claim? DL has no due diligence obligation of this type for a hostile takeover bid which is rejected.
Dec 3, 2006, 2:20 pm
#169
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Yes, USAir gains greatly from this merger. But DL doesn't gain anything, and it loses a lot (and quite possibly everything, looking two or three years down the line)
Dec 3, 2006, 2:23 pm
#170
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However if US is willing to admit it can't survive without this, I will be happy to start planning their "going out of business" party (just hope the invitations dont get lost going through PHL)
Dec 3, 2006, 2:41 pm
#171
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Dec 3, 2006, 3:10 pm
#172
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Big business does not care about any of us. Look at your own companies if Investment Capital funders got involved.
Sure, we can all be emotionally invested, like I was with DL years ago, but none of the airlines, hotel chains etc are ours.
That said, I hope your buttons, letters, calls et al, work. When one airline folds, or is gobbled up, it hurts us all because there is less competition and prices will go up. Service will go down.
Dec 3, 2006, 3:33 pm
#173
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This is not a dig so dont flame (or flame me at will, whatever).. No airline is OUR airline.. They all belong to their shareholders, and in DL's (and NW's) case, their creditors.
Big business does not care about any of us. Look at your own companies if Investment Capital funders got involved.
Sure, we can all be emotionally invested, like I was with DL years ago, but none of the airlines, hotel chains etc are ours.
That said, I hope your buttons, letters, calls et al, work. When one airline folds, or is gobbled up, it hurts us all because there is less competition and prices will go up. Service will go down.
Big business does not care about any of us. Look at your own companies if Investment Capital funders got involved.
Sure, we can all be emotionally invested, like I was with DL years ago, but none of the airlines, hotel chains etc are ours.
That said, I hope your buttons, letters, calls et al, work. When one airline folds, or is gobbled up, it hurts us all because there is less competition and prices will go up. Service will go down.
Ahhh Mikey, so jaded, but we love you anyway!!!!! I figure you would be estatic about the merger *smirk* You'd get segments back *grin*
Dec 3, 2006, 3:46 pm
#174
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Dec 3, 2006, 5:26 pm
#175
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1) It is WHO the merger is with that irks me. US Scareways is a nightmare of customer service (have you been to PHL it makes ATL look like nirvana). I personally thought NW would be a horrible merger partner, til Dougie tried this crap!!!!
Don't confuse the old US Airways ( pre meger with HP) with the new one. They don't exist anymore.
2) The fact that it was done as a hostile bid. Calling this a merger is a farce. A merger is two entities who both want to come together and see it as a positive. This is an attempt to STEAL our airline, by someone who cant run the one they have!!!!!!!
At least two attempts were made by US to come together with DL and were unsuccesful. DL has lost 16 billion dollars over the past 5 or 6 years. I think your creditors are tired of Delta's plan and they are looking for someone else. I can't forsee any scenario where the creditors would side with a DL stand alone plan.
1) It is WHO the merger is with that irks me. US Scareways is a nightmare of customer service (have you been to PHL it makes ATL look like nirvana). I personally thought NW would be a horrible merger partner, til Dougie tried this crap!!!!
Don't confuse the old US Airways ( pre meger with HP) with the new one. They don't exist anymore.
2) The fact that it was done as a hostile bid. Calling this a merger is a farce. A merger is two entities who both want to come together and see it as a positive. This is an attempt to STEAL our airline, by someone who cant run the one they have!!!!!!!
At least two attempts were made by US to come together with DL and were unsuccesful. DL has lost 16 billion dollars over the past 5 or 6 years. I think your creditors are tired of Delta's plan and they are looking for someone else. I can't forsee any scenario where the creditors would side with a DL stand alone plan.
Dec 3, 2006, 7:09 pm
#178
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I am sure you are going to get lots of answers from a lot of people but here are my issues:
1) It is WHO the merger is with that irks me. US Scareways is a nightmare of customer service (have you been to PHL it makes ATL look like nirvana). I personally thought NW would be a horrible merger partner, til Dougie tried this crap!!!!
Oh and let me add. I have also watched Delta really pull itself back together. A year and a 1/2 ago we were pretty low. Customer service was non existant, and there were a lot of problems. Delta and its people have worked really hard to remember who they were, where they came from and why they are here. To have someone try to tear all that down in an unwelcome move is not acceptable!!!!!!
1) It is WHO the merger is with that irks me. US Scareways is a nightmare of customer service (have you been to PHL it makes ATL look like nirvana). I personally thought NW would be a horrible merger partner, til Dougie tried this crap!!!!
Oh and let me add. I have also watched Delta really pull itself back together. A year and a 1/2 ago we were pretty low. Customer service was non existant, and there were a lot of problems. Delta and its people have worked really hard to remember who they were, where they came from and why they are here. To have someone try to tear all that down in an unwelcome move is not acceptable!!!!!!
I picked up my "Keep Delta My Delta Tag when I went through PDX last week. The GA knows me by face. When I asked her for one, she said hang on a sec. A couple minutes later, she was back with one. I PROUDLY, pinned it to my carry on and went to my gate. It was not till I got to CLT, that I received anything but smiles and nice comments from anyone. In CLT, I got sh**y looks from US people. One person was very upfront with his look, and I felt very good giving him the middle finger salute for his facial expressions.
Dec 3, 2006, 7:24 pm
#179
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I may sound picky here, but the only airline I would mind seeing Delta merge with is Continental. US Scareways, as a merger partner is a nightmare. I see nothing but negatives out of a merger like this. Delta has worked too hard in the bankruptcy to be taken over like this. They have completely transformed this airline and to see an airline like US take them over would be very bad. In the future, I don't want to see Parker at the head of Delta, I don't want to see airbuses in the fleet, I don't want to see PHL, CLT, PHX, or LAS as hubs. I want to see the current Delta come out of BK as a standalone carrier.
