May 24, 2013, 2:53 am
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
According to EF these are the MCTs for JFK:
LA to DL I-I: 1 hour 30 minutes
Generic online and offline:
D-D: 1 hour
D-I: 1 hour 15 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 45 minutes
I-I: 2 hours
DL to DL Connections
- D-D: 35 minutes
- D-I: 45 minutes except 55 minutes if connecting to HAV.
- I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes except: 1 hour if coming from Ireland, AUA, BDA, FPO, or NAS; 1 hour 55 minutes if coming from HAV. Note if you're coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, it's considered a domestic flight and the D-D times above apply.
- I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes except: 1 hour if coming from Ireland or AUA; 45 minutes if coming from BDA, FPO, or NAS; 2 hours if arriving on a DL-marketed flight that arrives into Terminal 1. Note if you're coming from a Canadian airport with preclearance, it's considered a domestic flight and the D-I times above apply.
DL to/from AF
- DL to AF, D-I: 1 hour 40 minutes until 11/23/23; 1 hour 15 minutes starting 11/24/23
- DL to AF, I-I: 2 hours
- AF to DL, I-D: 2 hours 15 minutes until 12/31/23; 1 hour 45 minutes starting 1/1/24
- AF to DL, I-I: 2 hours
DL to/from KL
- DL to KL, D-I: 45 minutes
- DL to KL, I-I: 1 hour 25 minutes
- KL to DL, I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes
- KL to DL, I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes
DL to/from VS:
- DL to VS, D-I: 45 minutes
- DL to VS, I-I: 1 hour 25 minutes
- VS to DL, I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes
- VS to DL, I-I: 1 hour 40 minutes
Other connections
LA to DL I-D: 1 hour 40 minutes until 7/21/23, 1 hour 35 minutes starting 7/22/23.LA to DL I-I: 1 hour 30 minutes
Generic online and offline:
D-D: 1 hour
D-I: 1 hour 15 minutes
I-D: 1 hour 45 minutes
I-I: 2 hours
Minimum Connection Transfer Time at New York (JFK): The Definitive Thread
Nov 16, 2007, 11:26 am
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My advice: either get the flights changed or have some backup plans.
Nov 16, 2007, 11:56 am
#123
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Delays are bad in the afternoon (and the morning, and the evening) however my philosophy is that if arrivals are late coming in, chances are departures will be negatively affected as well. Its difficult to cut it much closer than 37 mins, but whatever is meant to be will be...
Nov 16, 2007, 1:06 pm
#124
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Delays are bad in the afternoon (and the morning, and the evening) however my philosophy is that if arrivals are late coming in, chances are departures will be negatively affected as well. Its difficult to cut it much closer than 37 mins, but whatever is meant to be will be...
Nov 16, 2007, 1:58 pm
#125
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I wouldn't count on it
JFK is a busy airport and if the weather is less than perfect you are not going to make it - ATC delays are quite frequent.
Nov 16, 2007, 8:45 pm
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Yes, it is. It was inside security both terminal 2 & 3. You will not able leave from DL terminals. I think you should be just fine more entire time during your transit in JFK. Because JFK is very extremely busy due to leak overcrowded in DL terminal 2 & 3. I would assuming if you will try go to CRC in terminal 2 upper level. I don't have anything more opportunity about JFK doing.
Nov 16, 2007, 8:47 pm
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Correct! Because the flight was delays in JFK due to NYC traffic control. That's why we stuck in JFK for hours due to weather. I remember when we flown to JFK in summer 2007. You won't able misconnected the flights. I would recommend try give yourself extra time during your entire trip.
Jan 28, 2008, 10:51 pm
#128
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Is my JFK layover too short?
Flying DL 5200 from PHL-JFK 5:00-6:13 PM
connecting to
DL 78 JFK-TXL leaving 7:30 PM.
Am I dead meat on this connection? Where do the Delta connection flights arrive in the terminal relative to the international departure gates?
connecting to
DL 78 JFK-TXL leaving 7:30 PM.
Am I dead meat on this connection? Where do the Delta connection flights arrive in the terminal relative to the international departure gates?
Jan 29, 2008, 12:50 am
#129
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Here is a map:
https://www.delta.com/traveling_chec..._jfk/index.jsp
I'm not saying you can take your time and go slow, BUT if you walk at a good speed, even if you have to change terminals, should be very do-able. If you end up arriving and leaving from the same terminal then definitely not a problem.
All of this is predicated on you NOT arriving late....with NYC air traffic anything is possible! Good luck!
PS Please let us know how it goes after you get back, I'd be interested in hearing as I am based in NY state and giving Delta a try this year....
Jan 29, 2008, 7:38 am
#130
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The PHL-JFK flights are in the air for about half an hour, so there is plenty of padding built into the 1:15 block.
When I flew JFK-PHL last month we left from gate 25 -- I'm assuming that end of terminal 2 is where the CRJs come in. I would guess it's maybe a 15-min walk tops to the other end of terminal 3.
When I flew JFK-PHL last month we left from gate 25 -- I'm assuming that end of terminal 2 is where the CRJs come in. I would guess it's maybe a 15-min walk tops to the other end of terminal 3.
Jan 29, 2008, 8:45 am
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And there's a reason why it is blocked for that long. OP, you should be fine with the connection. I can't imagine that you have many other options if you didn't feel comfortable with it.
Jan 29, 2008, 10:08 am
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Unfortunately, there is a rather high chance that this connection will be missed because of ATC flow control... that's the time of day where the crap hits the fan in the NYC area and especially JFK. And the easiest kind of flight to place a ground hold on is an RJ flight from a nearby airport.
If your RJ flight is on time, it is an easy connection... but I am betting that the flight is not on time very often.
If your RJ flight is on time, it is an easy connection... but I am betting that the flight is not on time very often.
Jan 29, 2008, 10:42 am
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It's hard to tell much from historical data about whether this flight will be on time, since the flight the OP is on does not currently operate. In addition to flow control at JFK, it departs during the afternoon rush in PHL, hence the 45 minutes of extra time.
There is an earlier PHL-JFK (leaving 2:45, arriving 3:47) that may make things more comfortable for the OP.
There is an earlier PHL-JFK (leaving 2:45, arriving 3:47) that may make things more comfortable for the OP.
Jan 29, 2008, 10:53 am
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According to flightstats.com, the 3-6pm block of flights from PHL-JFK has an average delay of 58 minutes.
Of course, everything might go smoothly on the day of your flight. But if you want to be sure to make your TXL flight, I would change to (or standby for) an earlier flight to JFK.
Of course, everything might go smoothly on the day of your flight. But if you want to be sure to make your TXL flight, I would change to (or standby for) an earlier flight to JFK.