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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 1:49 pm
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Interesting day here at LAS. My 1:55 to LAX was cancelled, and there was no way to get to my final on Delta other than the redeye tonight through ATL. The nice agent on the phone was able to get me on UA in coach, but I had a paid F ticket so just bought a ticket on UA in First and cancelled my flight. My colleague is flying DL elsewhere and it is a zoo at check in. Two LAX, one SEA, one DTW, two JFK, and a number of delayed ATL flights caused a lot of issues. I'm hoping my UA flight goes better!
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 2:01 pm
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Delays both directions for me this week; no idea why on outbound, never any info shared. Yesterday mechanical.

Internet not working 2 of 2 flights this week; power not working on the way, neither was IFE (757)

Last week internet not working on 2 of 3 flights.

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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
Keep on making excuses for the airline that charges more for tickets than everyone else. Delta was #1 for cancels on Wednesday this week, #1 for cancels Thursday, #1 for cancels Friday, #1 for cancels today, and already #1 for tomorrow. Monday too! Keep climbing.
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 4:48 pm
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Its almost as if there is a correlation between 1) the gutting of flight frequencies from MSP/DTW over the last few years, and 2) increased number of operational meltdowns for Delta.

Maybe being able to connect somewhere besides ATL or LGA for domestic flights was useful for redundancy after all.
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by kavok
Its almost as if there is a correlation between 1) the gutting of flight frequencies from MSP/DTW over the last few years, and 2) increased number of operational meltdowns for Delta.

Maybe being able to connect somewhere besides ATL or LGA for domestic flights was useful for redundancy after all.
Given the number of the canceled flights today that touch MSP and DTW, it doesn't seem likely there is any correlation at all
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 6:37 pm
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Very impressed with the recovery at ATL today.

Had an afternoon flight out of MCO to ATL and then on from there. Given the morning weather and issues at MSP, things were very out of wack. DL did a great job swapping in birds that were from cancelled flights to get my two routes to be perfectly on time today. Very grateful but I understand how frustrated others are.
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 7:33 pm
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For those of you who weren't flying Delta in the '90s and early 2000s (I'm guessing a decent portion of posters on this forum were either not born, or were very young during that span), this NY Times article may give you a very small insight into why some of us are concerned about a return to the 'bad old days' of Delta. Some of the COVID responses they've made are eerily similar to those days. Thankfully, Delta is financially stable. And barring some ridiculous missteps, there is no worry about filing for Chapter 11 again (as did 5 other additional airlines at the time). But early retirements, poorly trained junior staff and lessening the experience in the FC/D1 cabin could definitely tank their customer service metrics.
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by BamaGirl
For those of you who weren't flying Delta in the '90s and early 2000s (I'm guessing a decent portion of posters on this forum were either not born, or were very young during that span), this NY Times article may give you a very small insight into why some of us are concerned about a return to the 'bad old days' of Delta. Some of the COVID responses they've made are eerily similar to those days. Thankfully, Delta is financially stable. And barring some ridiculous missteps, there is no worry about filing for Chapter 11 again (as did 5 other additional airlines at the time). But early retirements, poorly trained junior staff and lessening the experience in the FC/D1 cabin could definitely tank their customer service metrics.
Given the changes in technology, the industry, and the company, I think citing to a 1997 article about Delta is as relevant is citing to an article about the Wright Brothers.
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 8:08 pm
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Hope your partner got it all worked out. My Monday morning DCA-ATL has already been cancelled and the automatic system put me on DCA-LGA-RDU-ATL. Fortunately, reached a good agent on the phone and was rebooked out of BWI. Unfortunately, an Uber instead of a $5 Metro ride, but I'll take it.

Originally Posted by Adam1222
Exactly, which is why the statistics aren't very helpful. We have no way of knowing whether delays are better or worse than cancellations in the abstract. I think we should be able to agree though that a day where most airlines have more than 35% of flights canceled or delayed does indicate a bad travel day that goes beyond a single airline.

And I say this as someone who's partner is currently on hold with Delta due to flight cancellations tomorrow. Notably, out of DCA, AA and UA are also cancelling tons of flights, and also have zero availability
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Old Apr 1, 2023 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by dcstudent
Hope your partner got it all worked out. My Monday morning DCA-ATL has already been cancelled and the automatic system put me on DCA-LGA-RDU-ATL. Fortunately, reached a good agent on the phone and was rebooked out of BWI. Unfortunately, an Uber instead of a $5 Metro ride, but I'll take it.
He'll be DCA-RDU-ATL himself...
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Old Apr 2, 2023 | 5:22 am
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I got about 18 hours notice last night that my flight today was cancelled, with the cancellation message saying no alternative flights were available within 48 hours. I called to get rebooked and was quoted a 40 minute hold time, but it didn't give me a call back option. I had to wait on hold. Actual hold time ended up being 65 minutes. Have they eliminated the callback option or do they just suspend it during operational meltdowns?
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Old Apr 2, 2023 | 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by BamaGirl
But early retirements, poorly trained junior staff and lessening the experience in the FC/D1 cabin could definitely tank their customer service metrics
Originally Posted by Adam1222
Given the changes in technology, the industry, and the company, I think citing to a 1997 article about Delta is as relevant is citing to an article about the Wright Brothers.
IMHO big difference now is that management initiatives and technology deliver much more immediate feedback as to which strategies work and which don't. Today something like "Leadership 7.5" would never happen, due to the immediacy of both feedback channels and the Company's ability to pivot more quickly due to technology-enabled management techniques. These schedule disruptions are costly to DL in terms of money and reputation, but the solution has to account for current constraints in the supply chain and staffing and optimizing speed of implementation vs. investment.
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Old Apr 2, 2023 | 2:17 pm
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Major winter storm coming Tuesday for SLC. Normally that airport handles snow well but expect snow combined with Delta's current fragile state to cause problems.
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Old Apr 2, 2023 | 4:27 pm
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I might be missing something, but why have there been so many mainline DL cancellations lately?

7% of flights canceled Friday, 12% yesterday, 9% today. UA had issues with ORD and EWR (and DEN on Friday), and AA with major DFW problems, but their cancellations are nowhere close to DLs numbers.

Three days in a row of significant cancellations seems high, especially when AA and UA have hubs in the same regions.
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Old Apr 2, 2023 | 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by PA815
I might be missing something, but why have there been so many mainline DL cancellations lately?

7% of flights canceled Friday, 12% yesterday, 9% today. UA had issues with ORD and EWR (and DEN on Friday), and AA with major DFW problems, but their cancellations are nowhere close to DLs numbers.

Three days in a row of significant cancellations seems high, especially when AA and UA have hubs in the same regions.
This has been discussed/debated extensively throughout this thread, and it seems unlikely any new conclusions will be reached. But *both* MSP and DTW were very hard hit the past few days and shut down for periods. This came right after some awful days of thunderstorms in Atlanta and tornados in the Ozarks, so a lot of bad weather conditions hitting at once.

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/flight-cancellations-delay-spring-break-plans-for-travelers-at-msp-airport/89-ee0993dd-c36f-4893-9a84-75c0a491de8c

https://www.freep.com/story/travel/michigan/2023/03/03/dtw-closes-flights-canceled-delayed/69969936007/

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