Feb 21, 2019, 2:36 pm
Last edit by: mnbp
Here are the applications for flight slots at HND (12 slots available to US carriers):
UA (six slots requested)
HND - EWR/ORD/IAD/LAX/IAH/GUM
Application of United Airlines (508 pages)
Answer of United Airlines (154 pages) "United's proposal will make the best use of scarce Haneda slots and provide the greatest public benefits, and No other carrier has demonstrated the benefits of its proposals more than United"
Consolidated reply of United Airlines (148 pages) "Our proposal is best, and the other guys misrepresented the facts."
HA (three slots requested)
HND - HNL (3x daily)
Application of Hawaiian Airlines (118 pages)
Answer of Hawaiian Airlines (111 pages) "Why HA is best, here's what's wrong with DL's request, here's what's wrong with UA's request, and here's what's wrong with AA's request"
Consolidated Reply of Hawaiian Airlines (33 pages) "Our proposal is best, and here's what's wrong with DL, UA and AA's proposals"
AA (four slots requested)
HND - DFW/LAX/DFW/LAS (DFW is AA's first and third preference)
Application of American Airlines (135 pages)
Answer of American Airlines (106 pages) "Only AA adds competition, DL squanders scarce resources, and don't reward UA further"
Consolidated Reply of American Airlines (111 pages) "Here's why DFW, LAX and LAS should be selected, and UA's baseless attacks on AA distract from UA's poor proposal"
DL (six slots requested)
HND - SEA/DTW/ATL/PDX/HNL/HNL (HNL Is DL's fifth and sixth preference)
Application of Delta Air Lines (199 pages)
Answer of Delta Air Lines (90 pages) "DL's proposal maximizes public benefits, DL's proposal should be granted in full before UA, AA, and HA are considered, and DL deserves the slot times it has requested"
Reply of Delta Air Lines (75 pages) "Answers from UA, AA and HA underscore why DL's proposal should be granted in full, and B6's answer is irrelevant to this proceeding"
And the odd filing:
Answer of Jetblue Airways Corporation (6 pages) "If it is important for DOT to grant DL's application for slots at HND, it is equally important to allow JetBlue to enter LHR and AMS"
UA (six slots requested)
HND - EWR/ORD/IAD/LAX/IAH/GUM
Application of United Airlines (508 pages)
Answer of United Airlines (154 pages) "United's proposal will make the best use of scarce Haneda slots and provide the greatest public benefits, and No other carrier has demonstrated the benefits of its proposals more than United"
Consolidated reply of United Airlines (148 pages) "Our proposal is best, and the other guys misrepresented the facts."
HA (three slots requested)
HND - HNL (3x daily)
Application of Hawaiian Airlines (118 pages)
Answer of Hawaiian Airlines (111 pages) "Why HA is best, here's what's wrong with DL's request, here's what's wrong with UA's request, and here's what's wrong with AA's request"
Consolidated Reply of Hawaiian Airlines (33 pages) "Our proposal is best, and here's what's wrong with DL, UA and AA's proposals"
AA (four slots requested)
HND - DFW/LAX/DFW/LAS (DFW is AA's first and third preference)
Application of American Airlines (135 pages)
Answer of American Airlines (106 pages) "Only AA adds competition, DL squanders scarce resources, and don't reward UA further"
Consolidated Reply of American Airlines (111 pages) "Here's why DFW, LAX and LAS should be selected, and UA's baseless attacks on AA distract from UA's poor proposal"
DL (six slots requested)
HND - SEA/DTW/ATL/PDX/HNL/HNL (HNL Is DL's fifth and sixth preference)
Application of Delta Air Lines (199 pages)
Answer of Delta Air Lines (90 pages) "DL's proposal maximizes public benefits, DL's proposal should be granted in full before UA, AA, and HA are considered, and DL deserves the slot times it has requested"
Reply of Delta Air Lines (75 pages) "Answers from UA, AA and HA underscore why DL's proposal should be granted in full, and B6's answer is irrelevant to this proceeding"
And the odd filing:
Answer of Jetblue Airways Corporation (6 pages) "If it is important for DOT to grant DL's application for slots at HND, it is equally important to allow JetBlue to enter LHR and AMS"
DOT starts new proceeding for added HND slots
Mar 2, 2019, 3:20 pm
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If I was Singapore or Japan, I would force Trump to waive restrictions on foreign ownership of U.S. airlines for certain, U.S.-aligned countries as a price for their continued support and fidelity to America in the Asia-Pacific region. I'd then buy Hawaiian or Alaska and rapidly expand the footprint from Honolulu or Seattle.
Alaska really needs intra-East Coast or intra-East of the Mississippi service.
Alaska really needs intra-East Coast or intra-East of the Mississippi service.
2) It isn’t clear any of the Asian carriers have the kind of money to both buy out Alaska and expand it into a national airline.
3) I’m assuming the notion of taking HA national is some sort of joke?
Mar 2, 2019, 3:31 pm
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Keep in mind - a big difference between NRT vs HND is that NRT is / was a major connecting hub, while HND is essentially O/D only. DL does offer the TIAT (airport) lounge for D1 passengers (only). Not sure even a maximum award of six additional flights/day would be enough to justify a DL SkyClub.
I could see a SkyTeam lounge or a SkyClub run by DL but intended to serve as the defacto SkyTeam lounge for their Asian airline partners plus AF (who currently sends people to JL lounges I believe)
Mar 2, 2019, 5:23 pm
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1) Those countries don’t have enough leverage to force anything of the sort.
2) It isn’t clear any of the Asian carriers have the kind of money to both buy out Alaska and expand it into a national airline.
3) I’m assuming the notion of taking HA national is some sort of joke?
Mar 2, 2019, 5:55 pm
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There is no way they would close NRT. The local economy has surged Fuentes to the airport and jobs created. Despite the huge protest before building the airport, likewise, there would be a protest to close it because of the economic benefits it has brought the region.
Mar 2, 2019, 6:13 pm
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At over 37 million people, Tokyo is literally the largest metro area in the world. I’m sure it’ll be able to sustain two airports for quite a while if many other metro areas smaller than it (and sometimes less wealthy populations) can sustain 2 or 3 or 4 or more airports servicing the city.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:05 pm
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At over 37 million people, Tokyo is literally the largest metro area in the world. I’m sure it’ll be able to sustain two airports for quite a while if many other metro areas smaller than it (and sometimes less wealthy populations) can sustain 2 or 3 or 4 or more airports servicing the city.
Mar 5, 2019, 2:52 am
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The issue of Japan's domestic demographics is irrelevant when it's seeing so much growth in inbound tourism. Just guestimating here, but if Haneda were to internationalize once more after this (i.e. adding another 25-50 slots for international flights), it might even make it the busiest airport in the world.
Mar 7, 2019, 10:32 am
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You can go right to the DOT docket.
https://www.regulations.gov/searchRe...p=true&ns=true
Comments filed as recently as today can be found there.
https://www.regulations.gov/searchRe...p=true&ns=true
Comments filed as recently as today can be found there.
Mar 7, 2019, 12:05 pm
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You can go right to the DOT docket.
https://www.regulations.gov/searchRe...p=true&ns=true
Comments filed as recently as today can be found there.
https://www.regulations.gov/searchRe...p=true&ns=true
Comments filed as recently as today can be found there.
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Mar 7, 2019, 12:15 pm
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You can go right to the DOT docket.
https://www.regulations.gov/searchRe...p=true&ns=true
Comments filed as recently as today can be found there.
https://www.regulations.gov/searchRe...p=true&ns=true
Comments filed as recently as today can be found there.
Mar 7, 2019, 3:20 pm
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Mar 7, 2019, 3:59 pm
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Mar 7, 2019, 4:45 pm
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