Ann Coulter's seat involuntary changed; posts angry Delta rant on twitter
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My thought was more that posting a picture of a specific person in this sorta 'attack' of her for getting the seat may violate some Twitter T&Cs
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This is one of those unique situations where, yes, it's bad that Delta would take a customer out of their pre assigned seat (whatever the reason) but:
1) She previously applauded Uniteds treatment of the doctor, called him a drug addict and called for his deportation
2) Spews vile hate speech and racism
3) Reacted to this in a extremely inappropriate manner by going on her little rant.
Those reasons make me have 0 sympathy for her. Sure....having your seat taken isn't something that should happen to anyone, but there are some people who are just such a disgusting excuse for a human being that it's impossible for me to have ANY sympathy for her.
1) She previously applauded Uniteds treatment of the doctor, called him a drug addict and called for his deportation
2) Spews vile hate speech and racism
3) Reacted to this in a extremely inappropriate manner by going on her little rant.
Those reasons make me have 0 sympathy for her. Sure....having your seat taken isn't something that should happen to anyone, but there are some people who are just such a disgusting excuse for a human being that it's impossible for me to have ANY sympathy for her.
Why "WOW!!!"? I'd surmise that a majority of people who have any familiarity with Coulter feel that way about her.
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Detroit isn't near a coastline??? Ok, we call it shoreline around here. And the same could be said for SLC....
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She has the same right the rest of us has to be upset about a seat change.
But publishing a picture of the person who ended up in the seat (and I understand she did another of flight crew) is beyond bad form. And given her language in the past could be taken as a threat.
But publishing a picture of the person who ended up in the seat (and I understand she did another of flight crew) is beyond bad form. And given her language in the past could be taken as a threat.
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Yes, but when airlines turn around and turn seat selection into a revenue stream it's not hard to imagine people getting the wrong idea.
My understanding is that she usually does travel in First...but that's also when she's on a paid trip (e.g. speaking at a fundraiser). When she's not getting an expense account she might be more frugal. Also, my understanding is that she usually/always has a bodyguard present (since there are just enough nuts out there who would try to take a swing at a high-profile, polarizing commentator). There might not have been two seats available in First or it might have been a last-minute booking with lousy rates for the flights that worked for her schedule.
Yes, but when airlines turn around and turn seat selection into a revenue stream it's not hard to imagine people getting the wrong idea.
My understanding is that she usually does travel in First...but that's also when she's on a paid trip (e.g. speaking at a fundraiser). When she's not getting an expense account she might be more frugal. Also, my understanding is that she usually/always has a bodyguard present (since there are just enough nuts out there who would try to take a swing at a high-profile, polarizing commentator). There might not have been two seats available in First or it might have been a last-minute booking with lousy rates for the flights that worked for her schedule.
I don't buy number 2 above as being true. Also, the above is a false binary choice. Some people traveling for paid engagements do fly coach. This includes political commentators who sometimes have clients with rather streamlined budgets but for which the talking head wants to be affiliated and help with fundraising or membership runs or to just hit up and grab attention.
This is one of those unique situations where, yes, it's bad that Delta would take a customer out of their pre assigned seat (whatever the reason) but:
1) She previously applauded Uniteds treatment of the doctor, called him a drug addict and called for his deportation
2) Spews vile hate speech and racism
3) Reacted to this in a extremely inappropriate manner by going on her little rant.
Those reasons make me have 0 sympathy for her. Sure....having your seat taken isn't something that should happen to anyone, but there are some people who are just such a disgusting excuse for a human being that it's impossible for me to have ANY sympathy for her.
1) She previously applauded Uniteds treatment of the doctor, called him a drug addict and called for his deportation
2) Spews vile hate speech and racism
3) Reacted to this in a extremely inappropriate manner by going on her little rant.
Those reasons make me have 0 sympathy for her. Sure....having your seat taken isn't something that should happen to anyone, but there are some people who are just such a disgusting excuse for a human being that it's impossible for me to have ANY sympathy for her.
BTW, the rant and twitting happened after the seat was taken, so this cannot be used to excuse DL's action in taking the seat.
why would you wonder that? We have threads in here where people argue whether the price difference in F for given routes is "worth it" all the time.
The thing that is most objectionable about this situation is that she decided that shaming the person who was seated in "her" seat was a worthwile action. That person almost certainly had nothing to do with this and probably had no idea what was going on.
Seems like Ann would fit in fine with a lot of the crew on this board, actually.
The thing that is most objectionable about this situation is that she decided that shaming the person who was seated in "her" seat was a worthwile action. That person almost certainly had nothing to do with this and probably had no idea what was going on.
Seems like Ann would fit in fine with a lot of the crew on this board, actually.
This. I'm not a Coulter fan at all, but I have no problem with her using her visibility to complain about an airline (or any business) that has done something wrong. But the other passengers likely had nothing to do with it, didn't know what was going on, and don't deserve to have their images plastered all over the internet.
Most of the time when you buy a ticket to a major event, part of the ticket "contract" is you giving your permission to have your photo taken and used for various purposes. Protestors on a march are in a public space and have no fair expectation of privacy.
But all legality aside, a highly visible personality posting close-up photos of someone in an arguably non-public location without their permission is just poor form. Even at a mostly inconsequential level...suppose one of the guys in the background of the photo was flying to surprise a family member for their birthday or something. Well...there goes that idea for someone who had zero to do with whatever situation some famous person wanted to go off the rails about.
Most of the time when you buy a ticket to a major event, part of the ticket "contract" is you giving your permission to have your photo taken and used for various purposes. Protestors on a march are in a public space and have no fair expectation of privacy.
But all legality aside, a highly visible personality posting close-up photos of someone in an arguably non-public location without their permission is just poor form. Even at a mostly inconsequential level...suppose one of the guys in the background of the photo was flying to surprise a family member for their birthday or something. Well...there goes that idea for someone who had zero to do with whatever situation some famous person wanted to go off the rails about.
Whether you are Ann Coulter or not, this practice of changing seats that you paid extra for is annoying and should be stopped.
I paid for my specific C+ seat and it was given away to someone else when there was no one else seated in that row of seats. Why couldn't Delta just seat that person next to me in the row instead of moving me. Not good customer service. Before pushback the FA gave the empty C+ seat away to a very oversized person. In the end that did work out for me anyway but Delta really should stop giving seats away like this.
I paid for my specific C+ seat and it was given away to someone else when there was no one else seated in that row of seats. Why couldn't Delta just seat that person next to me in the row instead of moving me. Not good customer service. Before pushback the FA gave the empty C+ seat away to a very oversized person. In the end that did work out for me anyway but Delta really should stop giving seats away like this.
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Believe it or not, there are actually people with $50 Million, $100 Million and much more who fly Coach so this whole notion about being able to afford it is a silly conversation and off point.
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She has the same right the rest of us has to be upset about a seat change.
But publishing a picture of the person who ended up in the seat (and I understand she did another of flight crew) is beyond bad form. And given her language in the past could be taken as a threat.
But publishing a picture of the person who ended up in the seat (and I understand she did another of flight crew) is beyond bad form. And given her language in the past could be taken as a threat.
I think in this day and age, where people post *so* many videos on Youtube, blogs etc. of just about anything noteworthy, people's faces are plastered all over the internet. If it wasn't Ann Coulter, I don't think much would be made of it by people in this thread.
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I was a bit bored this afternoon - too hot/humid out - and by chance came across this thread.
If this happened to anyone else, especially if someone asked for advice in the 'seat change' situation, a valid advice would be 'take to Twitter'. But not for Anne Coulter because folks don't like her (neither do I particularly).
She has the right, like any of us, to the seat we paid for. I could also fly in domestic F, if I wanted to shell out those $, but I choose not to because I tend to be frugal.
It is too bad that folks so often have to apply politics to these threads when they do not like an individual. This thread should be about 'here is the seemingly legitimate problem, and let's hear from others about their similar experiences including resolutions'.
If this happened to anyone else, especially if someone asked for advice in the 'seat change' situation, a valid advice would be 'take to Twitter'. But not for Anne Coulter because folks don't like her (neither do I particularly).
She has the right, like any of us, to the seat we paid for. I could also fly in domestic F, if I wanted to shell out those $, but I choose not to because I tend to be frugal.
It is too bad that folks so often have to apply politics to these threads when they do not like an individual. This thread should be about 'here is the seemingly legitimate problem, and let's hear from others about their similar experiences including resolutions'.
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This has nothing to do with politics, or at least not real politics. People don't like her because she is a bully and deeply offensive. They don't dislike her because she supports lower taxes or an isolationist immigration policy.
I'm very liberal and one of my very best friends is very conservative. We get a long just fine.
For much of the public she has lost her right to be offended because she is such an reckless iconoclast, and seemingly never in a productive and caring way, and again, not at all because of her "political" perspective. It's about how she treats other people.