DL to buy VX?
Apr 5, 2016, 6:43 pm
#91
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I agree that there is a lot that AS could do with those cities. I could see AS petitioning to have the DAL-DCA slots exchanged for a beyond perimeter slot for SAN-DCA as part of a deal should they choose to divest the DAL gates. I'm sure SAN would love to have a nonstop to DCA. AS also operates SAN-MCO nonstop.
Apr 5, 2016, 11:11 pm
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Just my speculation but perhaps AS could go after the lower end of the business travel on LAX/SFO-NYC. As of now I don't believe AA, UA, DL, or B6 allow free elite upgrades on those flights. AS could keep the F cabin the same as any other 737, perhaps improve the food a bit, price F below the other four airlines, and allow elite upgrades. I think they could have a place for people who just want a bigger seat, meal, and a few drinks.
DL and B6 are the "lower end" of the JFK-LAX/SFO transcon markets, as they attract the lowest fares. VX gets average fares that are slightly higher, but nowhere near UA's or AA's average fares.
Apr 6, 2016, 6:17 am
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Or they can start SAN/SJC-NYC. Those markets don't have service and both cities have a loyal AS following. The current VX product on LAX/SFO-NYC is lacking compared to AA/B6/DL. I don't see AS upgrading the product to a lie flat which seems to be the current standard.
2) The market has been pretty clear that nobody wants to fly into SJC. It may not make intuitive sense, but it is clearly a second-tier airport in the region.
Apr 6, 2016, 8:32 pm
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AA still permits "free" elite upgrades to its top-tier EXPs on the transcons, same as all other domestic routes.
DL and B6 are the "lower end" of the JFK-LAX/SFO transcon markets, as they attract the lowest fares. VX gets average fares that are slightly higher, but nowhere near UA's or AA's average fares.
DL and B6 are the "lower end" of the JFK-LAX/SFO transcon markets, as they attract the lowest fares. VX gets average fares that are slightly higher, but nowhere near UA's or AA's average fares.
1) SAN-NYC is very well-served, so why would AS want to join the fray there when it is not the overall market LAX/SFO-NYC are, especially at the high end?
2) The market has been pretty clear that nobody wants to fly into SJC. It may not make intuitive sense, but it is clearly a second-tier airport in the region.
2) The market has been pretty clear that nobody wants to fly into SJC. It may not make intuitive sense, but it is clearly a second-tier airport in the region.
At SJC, AA is adding a seasonal CLT flight and DL is adding a daytime flight to ATL.
Apr 7, 2016, 1:30 am
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2) The market has been pretty clear that nobody wants to fly into SJC. It may not make intuitive sense, but it is clearly a second-tier airport in the region.
Apr 7, 2016, 1:55 am
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Apr 7, 2016, 11:30 am
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Carriers are hesitant about SJC because SJC is not SFO and people want to go to San Francisco, and they don't want to go to San Jose.
Apr 7, 2016, 11:57 am
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AA still permits "free" elite upgrades to its top-tier EXPs on the transcons, same as all other domestic routes.
DL and B6 are the "lower end" of the JFK-LAX/SFO transcon markets, as they attract the lowest fares. VX gets average fares that are slightly higher, but nowhere near UA's or AA's average fares.
DL and B6 are the "lower end" of the JFK-LAX/SFO transcon markets, as they attract the lowest fares. VX gets average fares that are slightly higher, but nowhere near UA's or AA's average fares.
However, I do rate AA's 3 class F (just better with no chance of a seatmate) as a higher end experience than UA, DL, VX's or B6's.
Apr 7, 2016, 1:20 pm
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