DL to buy VX?
Mar 28, 2016, 10:29 pm
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It would be hilarious if AS buys VX and gets the DAL gates. With the way DL has treated AS they can kiss goodbye any chance of remaining at DAL without a big fight. I'm sure AS can find a good use for those two DAL gates.
Mar 28, 2016, 11:36 pm
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They can fight all they want. The courts will still force DAL to allow DL to operate. DAL is the one that is in the hotseat, nit the airlines. They didn't include language in contracts with airlines requiring they have to give up gate use if another airline wishes to serve DAL. Now DAL is up against the fact FAA rules and regulations require that they make the airport available to any airline wishing to provide service. Thus to comply with the law they must violate their contract with current airlines. Simple case of airport management never thinking restrictions on the airport would ever be lifted.
Mar 28, 2016, 11:59 pm
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They can fight all they want. The courts will still force DAL to allow DL to operate. DAL is the one that is in the hotseat, nit the airlines. They didn't include language in contracts with airlines requiring they have to give up gate use if another airline wishes to serve DAL. Now DAL is up against the fact FAA rules and regulations require that they make the airport available to any airline wishing to provide service. Thus to comply with the law they must violate their contract with current airlines. Simple case of airport management never thinking restrictions on the airport would ever be lifted.
Mar 29, 2016, 12:05 am
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Mar 29, 2016, 12:08 am
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UA has a lock on the SFO market. Thinking otherwise is just foolish and it would be incredibly dumb of DL to try and start a hub at SFO. UA has many more widebodies to play around with than DL does.
Mar 29, 2016, 12:15 am
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I think AS would rather go into DFW so it connect with AA. However, it could sell those DAL gates for a nice high price.
Mar 29, 2016, 12:17 am
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What a ridiculous statement. VX has managed to break UA's "lock" and build a profitable hub at SFO. They have a tiny fraction of the resources that DL does, and they don't have any widebodies at all. By your logic, UA should have wiped them out in no time.
Mar 29, 2016, 12:51 am
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Think about this. If VX was really doing as well as you think they are then they wouldn't be putting up the For Sale sign.
Mar 29, 2016, 2:09 am
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+1 If AS is interested in VX, it makes no sense to me that it's for the DAL gates.
Mar 29, 2016, 2:30 am
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What could AS do with two DAL gates? I can't imagine them starting more than 1-2 daily SEA flights and maybe a PDX flight, and even that is a stretch because it makes more sense for them to stay at DFW with their partner. Unless you're suggesting that AS start up their first non-west coast focus city across town from their partner in an airport with a dominant hub carrier (whether or not WN uses the word hub).
Mar 29, 2016, 6:30 am
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In considering Alaska's options, don't forget about the idea of divesting planes, even in a large numbers. Southwest sent 88 planes, all 717s, to Delta on lease after merging in AirTran, retaining only 53 737s -- actions which converted the transaction from being sort of, maybe-ish pro-competitive to decidedly anti-competitive.
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Mar 29, 2016, 6:43 am
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Mar 29, 2016, 6:52 am
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VS and VX don't codeshare (AFAIK), so their relationship doesn't really go beyond the Virgin name, the stake that Virgin Group has in both companies, and the ability to earn VX miles on VS flights (and vise versa).
Apr 4, 2016, 9:39 am
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AS to buy VX
So now that Alaska purchase of Virgin seem a done deal, I wonder if this will finally unravel final AS/DL partnership change: termination.
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Apr 4, 2016, 9:43 am
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I'm glad the sale of VX was completed in record time. It puts to rest the incredibly silly notion of DL being allowed to purchase them. Like I said, Delta's merging days are over.