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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 6:26 am
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Looks to be mostly updates to schedule from Oct 6th - Dec 17th (my flights on Oct 1st - 2nd were not impacted). Lots of flights between 10/6 - 12/17 look to be in flux/not bookable (inventory zeroed out) right now.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 7:00 am
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Looks like mainline equipment is being replaced with regional jets between DCA and JFK.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by MileageAddict
Looks like mainline equipment is being replaced with regional jets between DCA and JFK.
Looks like only the 6AM was mainline A319 (DL2796) with 4x ERJ-175 for rest. Current schedule with 3x daily ERJ-175 is now being extended from 10/6 - 12/17. Previous Sunday/weekday schedule is still showing for 12/19 and beyond. Flights loaded but all inventory is currently zeroed out. Seems pretty clear that DL is not forecasting much of an uptick in business travel this fall.


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Old Aug 7, 2021, 7:41 am
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The biggest changes are in my ATH trip that departs late Oct and returns early Nov. I hope the direct ATL-ATH is not lost.
Curious that several ATL-OKC or OKC-ATL are blanked out. They already put us down to a 717 so maybe they think some kind of RJ is what we 'want'?
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by Xeno
The biggest changes are in my ATH trip that departs late Oct and returns early Nov. I hope the direct ATL-ATH is not lost.
Curious that several ATL-OKC or OKC-ATL are blanked out. They already put us down to a 717 so maybe they think some kind of RJ is what we 'want'?
ATL-ATH looks like it now ends on Oct 29th (with last return flights on 10/30). ATL-OKC looks like it will still be 5x mainline on weekdays (down from 6x daily mainline).
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 10:56 am
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My travel for early November seems to have been affected, but only in that we don't have seats assigned anymore. But when I look at the seatmap as if I was booking the flights again, it shows our seats as taken.

I am unable to select the seatmap or choose seats in my current reservation, however. Will this get fixed on it's own/eventually?
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
My travel for early November seems to have been affected, but only in that we don't have seats assigned anymore. But when I look at the seatmap as if I was booking the flights again, it shows our seats as taken.

I am unable to select the seatmap or choose seats in my current reservation, however. Will this get fixed on it's own/eventually?
Schedule change Saturdays mess up seatmaps. Try again tomorrow morning.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by xliioper
ATL-ATH looks like it now ends on Oct 29th (with last return flights on 10/30). ATL-OKC looks like it will still be 5x mainline on weekdays (down from 6x daily mainline).
Could you parse Oct 29 for me? My flight leave ATL on Oct 28 and of course arrives Oct 29. Is this the final flight?
If so, I want to call DL before the automatic system makes a wreck of my return. For the moment, both OKC-ATL then ATL-ATH are blank in terms of seats and aircraft.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 11:27 am
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Could you parse Oct 29 for me? My flight leave ATL on Oct 28 and of course arrives Oct 29. Is this the final flight?
If so, I want to call DL before the automatic system makes a wreck of my return. For the moment, both OKC-ATL then ATL-ATH are blank in terms of seats and aircraft.

No, final flight departs on Oct 29th and arrives Oct 30th (and final return flight departs ATH on Oct 30th). I don't think they are doing significant changes to OKC-ATL flights. I thought they were reducing from 6x to 5x daily, but they already did that to Oct/Nov flights a couple months ago (they just extended those cuts through Dec 17th).

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Old Aug 7, 2021, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Xeno
If so, I want to call DL before the automatic system makes a wreck of my return.
No you don't. Things are still changing. It often takes a day or two for all the inventory to show up properly. Then you can see all your options and pick your favorite; you'll be able to chose any reasonable option you like.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeyZBT
My travel for early November seems to have been affected, but only in that we don't have seats assigned anymore. But when I look at the seatmap as if I was booking the flights again, it shows our seats as taken.

I am unable to select the seatmap or choose seats in my current reservation, however. Will this get fixed on it's own/eventually?
Yes, it will eventually get fixed. Usually by Sunday or Monday things have settled down. I’d wait a day or two and try again. Sometimes, you have to click “accept” on your reservation where it is displaying the schedule change advisory. That seems to clean things up. Note: You don’t give up any of your rights by clicking this button.

Originally Posted by Xeno
Could you parse Oct 29 for me? My flight leave ATL on Oct 28 and of course arrives Oct 29. Is this the final flight?
If so, I want to call DL before the automatic system makes a wreck of my return. For the moment, both OKC-ATL then ATL-ATH are blank in terms of seats and aircraft.
I understand the desire to tackle the change quickly, but as others have said I’d wait a day or two. That way inventory has corrected itself and you can easily tell the agent what you will want. If you call now, they might see things as still zeroed out and would be unable to do anything. I’ve learned over the years that when changes like this occur, just sit tight for a few days, then call.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 12:22 pm
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All of my October/November flights aren't showing aircraft or seats. This is a big one today.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ekozie
All of my October/November flights aren't showing aircraft or seats. This is a big one today.
And yet only 2 of my 10 segments are affected.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by m907
Has anyone been able to get Delta to make a free change to a flight going the opposite direction? For example, I got a schedule change notification for ABC-XYZ, so I'm wondering if I can make a free change to go XYZ-ABC on a different date.
By policy if your flights have date changed, you're entitled to a a date change of equal length on opposite direction. Ie if you must fly two days later (no daily service) on outbound, you can change return to two days later also. Basically you get to keep same trip length if want it.
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Old Aug 7, 2021, 2:20 pm
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I was looking into buying tickets on a CMH-MSP/ATL-SAN-MSP-CMH routing and the schedule went from CR9/739-757/753-753-739 to CR9/739-753/764-753-319.

Is ~60 days out still the typical rule of thumb for when schedules are locked in? I feel like there's a better chance for upgrades on a 764 than on a 753 and would hate for an ATL-SAN segment to get dumped down to a 739 or 321.
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