Boarding Process
#106
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I might get some heat from this, but why a WN/UA way. They line up by Zone, but then the GA closes off the head of the line until the previous zone has finished. Also, there should be a GA standing and the entrance to the Gate Area to direct PAX. to their appropriate marker.
#108
Join Date: Oct 2002
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If anyone ever needs a convincing argument for human cloning, it would be to clone the occasional GAs that are reported in these forums, the ones that adamantly marshal boarding, so they can be sent to each gate in America, and eventually the world. Then this nonsense would finally be eradicated.
#109
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West of CLE
Programs: Delta DM/3 MM; Hertz PC; National EE; Amtrak GR; Bonvoy Silver; Via Rail Préférence
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on long trips, when i've checked my bag - the best time to board the plane is dead last when the gate is about to close. i will get there as they are making an announcement for my name. almost like i require a special invitation. by that time, everyone is on board, mostly seated, not being annoying, i get to sit right down and skip all of the stupid fussing and commotion and made-up special needs and bin fighting and all of it.
I've noticed lately in F that, unless you are on a 757, PDBs don't start until after most if not all of Y has boarded.
#110
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#111
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Agreed. I actually feel for the passengers who rarely fly and think, "wow we are in boarding zone 1." Then the slow realization that zone one means pretty much nothing. They got in after people traveling with children in car seats, people who need extra time, first class, diamonds, sky priority, and finally... zone one....Then followed by zone 2 to three. Their zone 1 is starting to sound like zone 6.
I bet they are starting to wonder about those fees they pay to keep that credit card...
I bet they are starting to wonder about those fees they pay to keep that credit card...
#112
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I don't see why anyone can complain when DMs board with F (note: I won't be a DM after 1/31/16; I just can't get 63k more MQMs in the next 5 months).
As a DM, I know exactly where I'm going on a plane, how to put a rollaboard in the overhead to maximize the remaining space for others, and how to get seated and out of the way quickly. I'm certain that at least 99% of all DMs are like this.
Also, I would rather sit in an exit row than in C+ on a crowded flight. Flying out of DCA, I get a lot of MD-90s. The absolute best seats in coach are on that kind of airplane: Seat 25B (the single seat on the left); and seats 26A and 26E (the seats with no seats in front. If I can't work out a C+ seat with the middle seat empty (such as row 12), I try to score an exit row seat.
As a DM, I know exactly where I'm going on a plane, how to put a rollaboard in the overhead to maximize the remaining space for others, and how to get seated and out of the way quickly. I'm certain that at least 99% of all DMs are like this.
Also, I would rather sit in an exit row than in C+ on a crowded flight. Flying out of DCA, I get a lot of MD-90s. The absolute best seats in coach are on that kind of airplane: Seat 25B (the single seat on the left); and seats 26A and 26E (the seats with no seats in front. If I can't work out a C+ seat with the middle seat empty (such as row 12), I try to score an exit row seat.
#113
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ATL
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You could say that about any group. When I have been silver/gold/and platinum depending on the year and have many times paid outrageous prices for tickets..some times purchased as little as 1 hour before takeoff.
#115
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MCO
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Why would people in Y complain? I had this happen recently and was very pleased at the effort made to serve us. I wondered about the FA doing this, but I noted that boarding and sitting were slow as usual so that by the time the passengers could pass through F, they quickly caught up to the end of the line.
#116
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Why would people in Y complain? I had this happen recently and was very pleased at the effort made to serve us. I wondered about the FA doing this, but I noted that boarding and sitting were slow as usual so that by the time the passengers could pass through F, they quickly caught up to the end of the line.
#117
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This video accurately depects the typical boarding process at delta if you make 2 small changes:
1) Exchange Row numbers for zones "PREM, SKY, 1, or 2"
2) Instead of the gate agent turning the pax around for boarding out of zone, just let them board anyway
#118
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: DCA
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Therein lies the root issue. People are lazy, don't pay attention, and only give a crap about themselves. Could boarding procedures be improved? Absolutely. But, aside from forcing passengers to line up in cattle corrals based off of their zones upon arrival to the gate, there will always be gate lice.
#119
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Delta Diamond 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 503
Therein lies the root issue. People are lazy, don't pay attention, and only give a crap about themselves. Could boarding procedures be improved? Absolutely. But, aside from forcing passengers to line up in cattle corrals based off of their zones upon arrival to the gate, there will always be gate lice.
I agree - there is no boarding process that can neutralize awful self-absorbed ignorant people.
This particular woman didn't even have a large carry-on. She had no rational motivation to run up there. Some people seem to have some kind of weird weird neuroses about flying. It's like a weird blend of anxiousness and worry with a mix of self-indulgent imaginary special needs. Like, if I don't get to follow this exact ritual - the world will end!
All I ask of Delta is to keep them all away from me, as much as possible. Generally, they are doing a fine job of that.
#120
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MCO
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I am finished having sympathy for pre-boards. ..
U used to the miracle flights to FL, but today did it for me. Older man with cane and Huge Photo tube boards with pre-boards LAS-MSP. Fine. The tube apparently made it to the closet and did not take up the 2 bins that I expected.
Upon landing, man jumps up, demands the FA get his cane, while people are in the aisle exiting door 2L, which she does go through the crowd ... She could have simply waited for FC to clear out and then get it... IF you pre board cause you need extra time, you should wait to deplane for the same reason.
Oh and on MSP-MCO, the pre board person was a guy carrying a set of crutches, not using, but carrying.....
Just load pre-boards after F and before kettles.... This policy is so abused.
U used to the miracle flights to FL, but today did it for me. Older man with cane and Huge Photo tube boards with pre-boards LAS-MSP. Fine. The tube apparently made it to the closet and did not take up the 2 bins that I expected.
Upon landing, man jumps up, demands the FA get his cane, while people are in the aisle exiting door 2L, which she does go through the crowd ... She could have simply waited for FC to clear out and then get it... IF you pre board cause you need extra time, you should wait to deplane for the same reason.
Oh and on MSP-MCO, the pre board person was a guy carrying a set of crutches, not using, but carrying.....
Just load pre-boards after F and before kettles.... This policy is so abused.