Jul 14, 2015, 2:48 pm
Last edit by: BadgerBoi
The Definitive Guide to Seat Poaching
1. Don't do it.
2. Alternatively to #1: Asking politely (and not demanding) to swap for an equal or better seat is acceptable by most (but the final decision always lays with the original seat holder)...but, be warned, some FT'ers may breathe fire at you.
3. Keep in mind that Point 2 is not seat poaching.
1. Don't do it.
2. Alternatively to #1: Asking politely (and not demanding) to swap for an equal or better seat is acceptable by most (but the final decision always lays with the original seat holder)...but, be warned, some FT'ers may breathe fire at you.
3. Keep in mind that Point 2 is not seat poaching.
Seat Swapping, Seat Poaching and Seating Etiquette: The Definitive Thread
Sep 18, 2017, 3:15 pm
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"the askee gets to decide what's beneficial" issue has been addressed MULTIPLE times in this thread. It's not even in dispute. It's completely unrelated to what's being discussed.
Sep 18, 2017, 4:40 pm
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I live in NYC, where many feel a "cultural norm" of telling people, in explicit and occasionally anatomically unlikely terms , what they think when someone unnecessarily chooses to get involved in their life.
Sep 18, 2017, 6:55 pm
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It's always optional, but thx for noting it.
And yet the poster to whom I replied seemed to be perfectly willing to make a determination as "how beneficial the trade is to them," so perhaps your snark is misdirected. AFAIAC an askee may reject the trade for any reason or no reason. It doesn't have to make sense to the "asker", etc.
O/H
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Sep 18, 2017, 8:44 pm
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I've been following this thread for weeks and I have no idea what is being discussed on this thread, at this point at least. I don't know that someone has to read every post on the thread, especially when the topic has veered off and back on so many times, to not be able to make a point without a rude response. Some people probably have better things to do than those of us who have (tried to) follow this thread.
Sep 19, 2017, 4:48 am
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It's always optional, but thx for noting it.
And yet the poster to whom I replied seemed to be perfectly willing to make a determination as "how beneficial the trade is to them," so perhaps your snark is misdirected. AFAIAC an askee may reject the trade for any reason or no reason. It doesn't have to make sense to the "asker", etc.
O/H
And yet the poster to whom I replied seemed to be perfectly willing to make a determination as "how beneficial the trade is to them," so perhaps your snark is misdirected. AFAIAC an askee may reject the trade for any reason or no reason. It doesn't have to make sense to the "asker", etc.
O/H
to be clear
NO ONE is saying the person asking gets to determine what is beneficial. What is so hard to understand about this? It's like the twilight zone. Multiple people have made this point clear ad nauseam. Yet some choose ignore this.
Again,
The person asking is NOT the one that gets to determine if it's beneficial. Can we please stop arguing over something we agree on.
Sep 19, 2017, 7:21 am
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Monday 9.11.17; DL 1301 from BWI to MSP. I was seated in 19D - exit row, aisle.
2 rows ahead of me, a youngish couple had 17B and 17C.
A woman arrives at the tail-end of boarding, stops at row 17, and announces loudly, "I don't do windows." Which, aside from being something I have heard from prospective cleaning services, I took to mean that she didn't want to sit in her ticketed seat, 17A.
The couple obliged, taking A & B and the loud lady got her aisle seat. She had no obvious disability requiring aisle seating, and was able to get up and down said aisle easily during the flight.
It's not the swap that bothered me, it was the manner in which it happened.
2 rows ahead of me, a youngish couple had 17B and 17C.
A woman arrives at the tail-end of boarding, stops at row 17, and announces loudly, "I don't do windows." Which, aside from being something I have heard from prospective cleaning services, I took to mean that she didn't want to sit in her ticketed seat, 17A.
The couple obliged, taking A & B and the loud lady got her aisle seat. She had no obvious disability requiring aisle seating, and was able to get up and down said aisle easily during the flight.
It's not the swap that bothered me, it was the manner in which it happened.
Sep 19, 2017, 7:37 am
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Monday 9.11.17; DL 1301 from BWI to MSP. I was seated in 19D - exit row, aisle.
2 rows ahead of me, a youngish couple had 17B and 17C.
A woman arrives at the tail-end of boarding, stops at row 17, and announces loudly, "I don't do windows." Which, aside from being something I have heard from prospective cleaning services, I took to mean that she didn't want to sit in her ticketed seat, 17A.
The couple obliged, taking A & B and the loud lady got her aisle seat. She had no obvious disability requiring aisle seating, and was able to get up and down said aisle easily during the flight.
It's not the swap that bothered me, it was the manner in which it happened.
2 rows ahead of me, a youngish couple had 17B and 17C.
A woman arrives at the tail-end of boarding, stops at row 17, and announces loudly, "I don't do windows." Which, aside from being something I have heard from prospective cleaning services, I took to mean that she didn't want to sit in her ticketed seat, 17A.
The couple obliged, taking A & B and the loud lady got her aisle seat. She had no obvious disability requiring aisle seating, and was able to get up and down said aisle easily during the flight.
It's not the swap that bothered me, it was the manner in which it happened.
Sep 19, 2017, 9:24 am
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Monday 9.11.17; DL 1301 from BWI to MSP. I was seated in 19D - exit row, aisle.
2 rows ahead of me, a youngish couple had 17B and 17C.
A woman arrives at the tail-end of boarding, stops at row 17, and announces loudly, "I don't do windows." Which, aside from being something I have heard from prospective cleaning services, I took to mean that she didn't want to sit in her ticketed seat, 17A.
The couple obliged, taking A & B and the loud lady got her aisle seat. She had no obvious disability requiring aisle seating, and was able to get up and down said aisle easily during the flight.
It's not the swap that bothered me, it was the manner in which it happened.
2 rows ahead of me, a youngish couple had 17B and 17C.
A woman arrives at the tail-end of boarding, stops at row 17, and announces loudly, "I don't do windows." Which, aside from being something I have heard from prospective cleaning services, I took to mean that she didn't want to sit in her ticketed seat, 17A.
The couple obliged, taking A & B and the loud lady got her aisle seat. She had no obvious disability requiring aisle seating, and was able to get up and down said aisle easily during the flight.
It's not the swap that bothered me, it was the manner in which it happened.
Sep 19, 2017, 12:37 pm
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Sep 19, 2017, 12:55 pm
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Flame if you want, but I really am getting sick of this crap - it's getting to be almost every flight (in F at least).
Do I mind when it is aisle for aisle? Not really...but it rarely is. It is usually a couple with a gate upgrade with two windows.
A recent flight my wife and I got upgraded at the gate with 2 windows - I did not even think of asking someone to switch. I think we can manage 2 hours out of a 9 day vacation apart.
Just sit in your seat already!
Friday I had the exact seat I wanted (used a GUC way in advance for an 1 1/2 hour domestic flight) and I board and see the wheelchair that pre-boarded next to me and his wife in the other window. I knew what was coming.....I begrudgingly switched because he was in bad shape and did not feel like I had a choice, I was not going to be his caretaker. I hate to be insensitive but if you need to be together why not decline the upgrade?
I think we have all experienced the wrath of someone who throws a tantrum after being told no.....
My favorite is the single person who comes and says "would you like the window?" and wanting you to move over like they are doing you a favor.....that one does not fly.
Plan ahead, stop making your problem other people's problem, and every once in a while, take a seat you don't want! Geesh...
Rant over
Do I mind when it is aisle for aisle? Not really...but it rarely is. It is usually a couple with a gate upgrade with two windows.
A recent flight my wife and I got upgraded at the gate with 2 windows - I did not even think of asking someone to switch. I think we can manage 2 hours out of a 9 day vacation apart.
Just sit in your seat already!
Friday I had the exact seat I wanted (used a GUC way in advance for an 1 1/2 hour domestic flight) and I board and see the wheelchair that pre-boarded next to me and his wife in the other window. I knew what was coming.....I begrudgingly switched because he was in bad shape and did not feel like I had a choice, I was not going to be his caretaker. I hate to be insensitive but if you need to be together why not decline the upgrade?
I think we have all experienced the wrath of someone who throws a tantrum after being told no.....
My favorite is the single person who comes and says "would you like the window?" and wanting you to move over like they are doing you a favor.....that one does not fly.
Plan ahead, stop making your problem other people's problem, and every once in a while, take a seat you don't want! Geesh...
Rant over
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Sep 19, 2017, 4:50 pm
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I think we have all experienced the wrath of someone who throws a tantrum after being told no.....
My favorite is the single person who comes and says "would you like the window?" and wanting you to move over like they are doing you a favor.....that one does not fly.
Rant over
My favorite is the single person who comes and says "would you like the window?" and wanting you to move over like they are doing you a favor.....that one does not fly.
Rant over
However, the one that gets me the most, and one that I have heard quite a lot but more when I was younger, is "You are going to have to move so I can sit with my..."
Nope. Nope. Anything that comes out of the requestor's mouth like an order is treated on the same level as an outright poacher. It's a no immediately. I have incurred wrath over responding this by asking what the f they mean by "I am going to have to"
Sep 19, 2017, 5:56 pm
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Flame if you want, but I really am getting sick of this crap - it's getting to be almost every flight (in F at least).
Do I mind when it is aisle for aisle? Not really...but it rarely is. It is usually a couple with a gate upgrade with two windows.
A recent flight my wife and I got upgraded at the gate with 2 windows - I did not even think of asking someone to switch. I think we can manage 2 hours out of a 9 day vacation apart.
Just sit in your seat already!
Friday I had the exact seat I wanted (used a GUC way in advance for an 1 1/2 hour domestic flight) and I board and see the wheelchair that pre-boarded next to me and his wife in the other window. I knew what was coming.....I begrudgingly switched because he was in bad shape and did not feel like I had a choice, I was not going to be his caretaker. I hate to be insensitive but if you need to be together why not decline the upgrade?
I think we have all experienced the wrath of someone who throws a tantrum after being told no.....
My favorite is the single person who comes and says "would you like the window?" and wanting you to move over like they are doing you a favor.....that one does not fly.
Plan ahead, stop making your problem other people's problem, and every once in a while, take a seat you don't want! Geesh...
Rant over
Do I mind when it is aisle for aisle? Not really...but it rarely is. It is usually a couple with a gate upgrade with two windows.
A recent flight my wife and I got upgraded at the gate with 2 windows - I did not even think of asking someone to switch. I think we can manage 2 hours out of a 9 day vacation apart.
Just sit in your seat already!
Friday I had the exact seat I wanted (used a GUC way in advance for an 1 1/2 hour domestic flight) and I board and see the wheelchair that pre-boarded next to me and his wife in the other window. I knew what was coming.....I begrudgingly switched because he was in bad shape and did not feel like I had a choice, I was not going to be his caretaker. I hate to be insensitive but if you need to be together why not decline the upgrade?
I think we have all experienced the wrath of someone who throws a tantrum after being told no.....
My favorite is the single person who comes and says "would you like the window?" and wanting you to move over like they are doing you a favor.....that one does not fly.
Plan ahead, stop making your problem other people's problem, and every once in a while, take a seat you don't want! Geesh...
Rant over