HongKonger

If you're a DM you'll earn 11 miles/$, so a $210 fare would get you 2310 not 231.

zebranz

A race to the bottom for FT'ers.

HongKonger

Also: 200 pages

erasmusmrr

So, we lost out on miles, big time, JFK-LAS for example...As GM, i would get roughly 2400 instead of 9000. Big loss. MQMs remain the same, AMEX waiver is still intact. Anything else we lose out on?

Kremmen

The fact that there's more than one level is annoying and makes planning very hard. Five is utterly inane, especially when all of them but one cost more miles than other carriers.

The one good part! Finally, for all those times when a DL saver award is available one way and a mega-huge (aka peak) award (or none) is available the other.

That's appallingly late. The best decision on whether to credit partner flights to DL or DL flights to partners or even which flights to book (e.g. DL partners or someone else's) requires knowing this now, not last quarter of the year.

3millandmore

this all comes down to the new awards charts and whether or not more seats will be available at lower milage levels. We only have half the picture. Another question is, will it make sense for some folks to now put all their miles under a Virgin or Air France account even when flying Delta domestically? Is it possible to do this?

GRALISTAIR

^^ agreed

18sas

I already have a ticket for 2015 for which I have already been quoted a certain number of SMs at ticketing time.

I have to assume that even though the new rules are supposed to take effect on Jan 1, any previously purchased tickets should earn at the rate already quoted.

Correct?

jdrtravel

Delta: As a Gold Medallion I am very, very unhappy with this change.

For example, I often fly the LAX-JFK route. I will have to spend over $1200 to get the same mileage that I currently get. I typically pay around $500 for coach fares. I realize this is not an expensive last minute fare, but I do not consider this to be bottom of the barrel cheap either.

I will remain loyal because I generally think you guys do a great job with your core service, but I do want to voice that I am unhappy with what seems like a very, very significant reduction in benefits.

In particular, I am unhappy with the way it is so dramatically skewed towards very high paying customers. I do understand the need to reward customers who pay much more than than most of us as they form an critical part of your customer base---but combined the rest of us also form an important part of your customer base.

rylan

I feel really bad for those lower level elites and kettles... this system basically means they won't be earning enough to get them anything besides a magazine subscription every 5 years.

danspartan

The original post is worded poorly then. The "bonus" 2 we are getting as AMEX holders is the 2 we are already getting. Its not like we get a bonus 2 from Delta plus the 2 from AMEX.

It could easily be read: for a PM like they'd get 13/$ and also 2/$ (for a net of 15). When its really 11/$ and 2/$ for a net of 13.

Probably could use some re-wording to make this obvious.

Dieuwer

The new award charts will also be spend based? Meaning a fare of $100 will be 10,000 miles for general members, and perhaps 8,000 miles for Diamond (20% discount)?
Also note how this new earning scheme destroys mileage runs, as you won't be able to make < 9 cpm.

Winkdaddy

[QUOTE=jdrtravel;22420467]Delta: As a Gold Medallion I am very, very unhappy with this change.

For example, I often fly the LAX-JFK route. I will have to spend over $1200 to get the same mileage that I currently get. I typically pay around $500 for coach fares. I realize this is not an expensive last minute fare, but I do not consider this to be bottom of the barrel cheap either.

I will remain loyal because I generally think you guys do a great job with your core service, but I do want to voice that I am unhappy with what seems like a very, very significant reduction in benefits.

In particular, I am unhappy with the way it is so dramatically skewed towards very high paying customers. I do understand the need to reward customers who pay much more than than most of us as they form an critical part of your customer base---but combined the rest of us also form an important part of your customer base.[/QUOTE]


+1. I get it that they want to reward top spenders, but this sucks for FO/GMs...which are technically the majority of their elites. I fly enough to take my wife and I on an award trip to the Caribbean or Europe once a year and now it seems it will be much harder to do so..though the award calendar/availability improvements need to be clarified to understand the full picture.

MSPSMFMSN

Yeah, this sucks. My typical sector goes from earning me something like 8000 miles roundtrip to closer to 4500. That's a pretty big haircut. I'm not happy.

TripleD

"When will the 2015 Award charts be available? - They will be available in the last quarter of 2014 and will be effective for new bookings beginning January 1, 2015."

Delta

Who am I? I was a Charter Diamond and have been continuously a Diamond. I am close to being a 2 million miler. I fly almost always in Business, and my spend is between $50,000 and $100,000 a year in airfare. I run an international department, and my employees fly with me. Our spend is $500,000.

Why am I annoyed with Delta? Because of the games that are being played with the flyer program. Withholding information, such as the new reward chart, is plainly an attempt to manipulate frequent flyers. Should I use my miles now or wait? Will the new structure be better for me or not? You know, but you will not tell me.

What can I do? Take my money elsewhere. I have just become AA Executive Platinum. They value my business and were happy to have me.

Loyalty has limits.