Jan 13, 2014, 6:10 am
Last edit by: mnbp
As of May 1, 2014, Delta no longer provides status-based access to third party lounges (lounges operated neither by Delta nor by a SkyTeam partner) for passengers departing on a Delta-operated flight. Based on reports in this thread, this does not apply to passengers departing the airport they're in on a flight operated by a SkyTeam partner: all other SkyTeam partners continue to provide status-based access to third-party lounges to all SkyTeam Elite Plus members, including Delta elites. Access to third-party lounges is determined by the policy of the operating carrier of the flight departing the airport.
Nothing has changed for passengers flying in business or first class on Delta.
From the link provided in the OP:
SkyTeam Benefits
Third party-operated Lounges:
Latin America & the Caribbean:
Bogota, CO (BOG)
Caracas, VE (CCS)
Lima, PE (LIM)
Quito, EC (UIO)
Europe/Africa/Middle East:
Accra, GH (ACC)
Arlanda, SE (ARN)
Athens, GR (ATH)
Barcelona, ES (BCN)
Brussels, BE (BRU)
Copenhagen, DK (CPH)
Dakar, SN (DKR)
Dubaij, AE (DXB)
Dublin, IE (DUB)
Dusseldorf, DE (DUS)
Frankfurt, DE (FRA)
Lagos, NG (LOS)
Madrid, ES (MAD)
Malaga, ES (AGP)
Malpensa, IT (MXP)
Manchester, GB (MAN)
Moscow, RU (SVO)
Mumbai, IN (BOM)
Munich, DE (MUC)
Nice, FR (NCE)
Pisa, IT (PSA)
Roberts, LR (ROB)
Shannon, IE (SNN)
Tel Aviv, IL (TLV)
Zurich, CH (ZRH)
Asia Pacific:
Bangkok, TH (BKK)
Beijing, CN (PEK)
Fukuoka, JP (FUK)
Guam, GU (GUM)
Hong Kong, HK (HKG) access to VS (partner) lounge. This lounge IS available to STE+, despite VS not being a SkyTeam partner.
Nagoya, JP (NGO)
Osaka, JP (KIX)
Saipan, MP (SPN)
Shanghai, CN (PVG)
Singapore, SG (SIN)
Sydney, AU (SYD) (no longer relevant after opening of SkyTeam lounge in Dec 2014)
Tokyo (Haneda), JP (HND) DL promotion provides access to two TIAT lounges at HND through Oct 31, 2017. Promotion includes any SkyClub member traveling on any airline same-day flight, and all GM, PM and DM members traveling on any DL flight. Extension of Haneda Lounge Access Promotion
Nothing has changed for passengers flying in business or first class on Delta.
From the link provided in the OP:
SkyTeam Benefits
LOUNGE ACCESS
Effective May 1, 2014, all Delta third-party operated international lounges will become Business lounges. (6)
Effective May 1, 2014, all Delta third-party operated international lounges will become Business lounges. (6)
- On or after May 1, 2014, Delta SkyTeam Elite Plus passengers flying in the economy cabin will only have access to DL Sky Clubs and SkyTeam Lounges.
- Passengers must be traveling in Business Class to have access to Third Party Lounges.
Third party-operated Lounges:
Latin America & the Caribbean:
Bogota, CO (BOG)
Caracas, VE (CCS)
Lima, PE (LIM)
Quito, EC (UIO)
Europe/Africa/Middle East:
Accra, GH (ACC)
Arlanda, SE (ARN)
Athens, GR (ATH)
Barcelona, ES (BCN)
Brussels, BE (BRU)
Copenhagen, DK (CPH)
Dakar, SN (DKR)
Dubaij, AE (DXB)
Dublin, IE (DUB)
Dusseldorf, DE (DUS)
Frankfurt, DE (FRA)
Lagos, NG (LOS)
Madrid, ES (MAD)
Malaga, ES (AGP)
Malpensa, IT (MXP)
Manchester, GB (MAN)
Moscow, RU (SVO)
Mumbai, IN (BOM)
Munich, DE (MUC)
Nice, FR (NCE)
Pisa, IT (PSA)
Roberts, LR (ROB)
Shannon, IE (SNN)
Tel Aviv, IL (TLV)
Zurich, CH (ZRH)
Asia Pacific:
Bangkok, TH (BKK)
Beijing, CN (PEK)
Fukuoka, JP (FUK)
Guam, GU (GUM)
Hong Kong, HK (HKG) access to VS (partner) lounge. This lounge IS available to STE+, despite VS not being a SkyTeam partner.
Nagoya, JP (NGO)
Osaka, JP (KIX)
Saipan, MP (SPN)
Shanghai, CN (PVG)
Singapore, SG (SIN)
delta cutting access to many of the international lounges
Nov 15, 2015, 8:05 am
#586
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 385
Nah
Yet another devaluation.
Delta has changed its Sky Bonus Benefits page. Many international lounges will be renamed Business Lounges. Delta Elite Medallions will not have free access to these lounges after May 1, 2014, unless they are flying in a Business Elite class.
here is the page on the delta website:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-benefits.html
I just wrote about this on my blog Will Run For Miles
- http://first2board.com/willrunformil...te-medallions/
Delta has changed its Sky Bonus Benefits page. Many international lounges will be renamed Business Lounges. Delta Elite Medallions will not have free access to these lounges after May 1, 2014, unless they are flying in a Business Elite class.
here is the page on the delta website:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-benefits.html
I just wrote about this on my blog Will Run For Miles
- http://first2board.com/willrunformil...te-medallions/
Nov 15, 2015, 8:07 am
#587
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 385
Nah
Yet another devaluation.
Delta has changed its Sky Bonus Benefits page. Many international lounges will be renamed Business Lounges. Delta Elite Medallions will not have free access to these lounges after May 1, 2014, unless they are flying in a Business Elite class.
here is the page on the delta website:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-benefits.html
I just wrote about this on my blog Will Run For Miles
- http://first2board.com/willrunformil...te-medallions/
Delta has changed its Sky Bonus Benefits page. Many international lounges will be renamed Business Lounges. Delta Elite Medallions will not have free access to these lounges after May 1, 2014, unless they are flying in a Business Elite class.
here is the page on the delta website:
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-benefits.html
I just wrote about this on my blog Will Run For Miles
- http://first2board.com/willrunformil...te-medallions/
Nov 15, 2015, 9:23 am
#588
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Nov 15, 2015, 11:26 am
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Nov 15, 2015, 11:49 am
#590
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Pax traveling in J or DL PM/DM have access to the VS Clubhouse.
GM and SkyTeam Elite Plus pax get access to the No. 1 Traveller Lounge in T3.
Nov 15, 2015, 8:25 pm
#591
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Thank you for stating the policy I already know.
Please re-read to understand my frustration with how they were (not) applied on these flights, and the actual question I had regarding access for a guest as STE+.
All flights were on SkyTeam metal, and long-haul int'l flight was on DL metal.
BCN-PMI: Domestic itinerary in Y, yet I was given access (guest was able to use my Priority Pass)
PMI-MAD-ATL: Int'l itinerary in J, I was given access based on J ticket. Was summarily denied access for a guest (guest was on same flight in Y). I have no idea whether I would have been offered access in Y, as lounge agents in both PMI and MAD did not seem to think that STE+ status mattered at all.
Please re-read to understand my frustration with how they were (not) applied on these flights, and the actual question I had regarding access for a guest as STE+.
All flights were on SkyTeam metal, and long-haul int'l flight was on DL metal.
BCN-PMI: Domestic itinerary in Y, yet I was given access (guest was able to use my Priority Pass)
PMI-MAD-ATL: Int'l itinerary in J, I was given access based on J ticket. Was summarily denied access for a guest (guest was on same flight in Y). I have no idea whether I would have been offered access in Y, as lounge agents in both PMI and MAD did not seem to think that STE+ status mattered at all.
No issue in MAD tho right?
Nov 16, 2015, 12:00 am
#592
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no international segment on the SAME day = NO lounge access.
IF international segment not SkyTeam = NO lounge access
http://www.skyteam.com/en/Why-SkyTea...Access-Policy/
"SkyTeam Elite Plus members, regardless of their travel class, are allowed access to a SkyTeam lounge at a particular airport if traveling on or connecting to/from a same-day international flight operated by a SkyTeam member airline. Simply present your same-day ticket for an international SkyTeam airline flight and a valid Elite Plus membership card."
IF international segment not SkyTeam = NO lounge access
http://www.skyteam.com/en/Why-SkyTea...Access-Policy/
"SkyTeam Elite Plus members, regardless of their travel class, are allowed access to a SkyTeam lounge at a particular airport if traveling on or connecting to/from a same-day international flight operated by a SkyTeam member airline. Simply present your same-day ticket for an international SkyTeam airline flight and a valid Elite Plus membership card."
(Well, I am anyway, but what about a GM who isn't otherwise entitled to Sky Club access?)
Nov 16, 2015, 12:34 am
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Nov 16, 2015, 1:48 am
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Yes, they consider that to be same day for access purposes. Redeyes and their connecting flights, are treated as same day travel in cases like this.
Nov 16, 2015, 4:51 am
#595
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Not that I know of. KL uses a contract lounge that is pretty darn sad in YVR; we're talking cup noodles and hospital Jello here. DL has no long haul international flights there, so no relationship of any kind with the contract lounge folks.
Nov 16, 2015, 6:38 am
#596
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After pax clearing for admission to US they are held in a specific US departure area. DL does not operate lounge in any Canadian airport's US departure area.
The YVR and other Canadian airport KL departure lounges( YYZ YUL) are in the international departure area which is a separate area airside and is only accessible with an international departure boarding pass.
Nov 20, 2015, 12:21 pm
#597
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If you read the previous posts (including the one you quoted), MAD was actually the BIGGEST problem out of all of my departure/connection points.
I'm not sure how I can be more clear.
Nov 20, 2015, 3:15 pm
#598
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It is my understanding that if all of this is on one ticket, then you are entitled to club access starting at SFO.
May 5, 2017, 7:33 pm
#599
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Since the consensus here is that operating carrier is the determining factor on lounge access and third-party lounges should be OK if not flying DL, I'd like to share my experience of being denied lounge access in Manila three times in a row as DL GM when ticketed on and flying KLM in Y class (yes, as in expensive).
May 5, 2017, 10:36 pm
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Since the consensus here is that operating carrier is the determining factor on lounge access and third-party lounges should be OK if not flying DL, I'd like to share my experience of being denied lounge access in Manila three times in a row as DL GM when ticketed on and flying KLM in Y class (yes, as in expensive).