Delta and Starwood introduce Crossover Rewards
Apr 16, 2018, 3:24 pm
#256
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Apr 16, 2018, 6:51 pm
#257
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An important difference is that UA gave genuine status to Marriott elites (Silver for Marriott Platy and an unpublished Gold (and *A *Gold) for Marriott Platinum Premiers which was the unpublished invitation only level widely rumored to require at least three years in excess of 100 nights each), versus crossover that just gave certain benefits including upgrades when flying DL.
Unfortunately I think the result is R I P Crossover.
Unfortunately I think the result is R I P Crossover.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:47 pm
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Apr 16, 2018, 11:05 pm
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Yes, but the relationship and set-up with United is so much better and so much more valuable to guests (e.g. RewardsPlus Hotel + Air packages), so one can only hope that if Marriott has to choose one, that it sticks with United: the *A miles at such a steal is one of the best use of Marriott and SPG points. It would be a massive devaluation if Marriott did something similar with Delta.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:34 am
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Just depends on your perspective. Since I have all the status I could ever need with both UA & MR already, I get nothing from the program; I never even bothered to link my accounts. OTOH, the DL-SPG cross-earning means I benefit every single time I fly DL or stay at a SPG hotel.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:49 am
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I'm assuming that Crossover will die.
I've traditionally transferred my SPG to Delta when I hit a 20K threshold (for the 5K bonus). I've always been able to redeem SM at a low level so I gladly take them. I'll hit 20K this week on my SPG, transfer them to DL and then wait to see what happens since I don't have and hotel stays planned before the July 15 announcement.
I'm anticipating free agency for the relatively few hotel stays I have every year.
I've traditionally transferred my SPG to Delta when I hit a 20K threshold (for the 5K bonus). I've always been able to redeem SM at a low level so I gladly take them. I'll hit 20K this week on my SPG, transfer them to DL and then wait to see what happens since I don't have and hotel stays planned before the July 15 announcement.
I'm anticipating free agency for the relatively few hotel stays I have every year.
Apr 17, 2018, 9:53 am
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I'm assuming that Crossover will die.
I've traditionally transferred my SPG to Delta when I hit a 20K threshold (for the 5K bonus). I've always been able to redeem SM at a low level so I gladly take them. I'll hit 20K this week on my SPG, transfer them to DL and then wait to see what happens since I don't have and hotel stays planned before the July 15 announcement.
I'm anticipating free agency for the relatively few hotel stays I have every year.
I've traditionally transferred my SPG to Delta when I hit a 20K threshold (for the 5K bonus). I've always been able to redeem SM at a low level so I gladly take them. I'll hit 20K this week on my SPG, transfer them to DL and then wait to see what happens since I don't have and hotel stays planned before the July 15 announcement.
I'm anticipating free agency for the relatively few hotel stays I have every year.
At the very least hang onto your SPG points for now -- the new award chart means there may be some interesting values coming for high-end hotels later this year. And the current 20K SPG points->25K Delta miles transfer option has been confirmed to be remaining -- it will now be 60K Marriott points (equal to 20K SPG points) transfers to 25K airline miles, including Delta miles.
Apr 17, 2018, 11:10 am
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My only question is, is it a hard cutoff where flights/stays before the 15th get points, and nothing after? Or is it based on booking or check-in/departure date? I've got a long-ish, expensive trip on DL starting on the 7th, returning on the 17th- hoping I get crossover points for it all.
Apr 17, 2018, 11:15 am
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My only question is, is it a hard cutoff where flights/stays before the 15th get points, and nothing after? Or is it based on booking or check-in/departure date? I've got a long-ish, expensive trip on DL starting on the 7th, returning on the 17th- hoping I get crossover points for it all.
I am pretty confident that it will be based on the date of travel since this is when points are earned (a booking that is not traveled does not earn points).
Apr 17, 2018, 3:50 pm
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It's official - the program fully ends July 15th. More details here.
Originally Posted by Delta website
- Crossover RewardsTM will continue through July 15, 2018, with all current benefits being honored through that date. We expect to have more to share on this program before July 15. SPG hotel bookings for stays with a check-out date after July 15, 2018 will not be eligible for earning miles or hotel benefits under the Crossover RewardsTM program
Apr 18, 2018, 1:29 am
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It's official - the program fully ends July 15th. More details here.
Apr 18, 2018, 1:35 am
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Please, use my DL Pesos and give me those SPG points!!!
Apr 18, 2018, 2:11 am
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Just depends on your perspective. Since I have all the status I could ever need with both UA & MR already, I get nothing from the program; I never even bothered to link my accounts. OTOH, the DL-SPG cross-earning means I benefit every single time I fly DL or stay at a SPG hotel.
I sure hope it does, of course, as it's easy earning of valuable SPG points.
But if it's only one of the two, the UA and Marriott tie-up is much closer and provides more benefit in terms of making Marriott/SPG points more valuable and matching elite status from one program to the other.