AA Matching DM to EXP
Jan 21, 2013, 2:51 pm
#91
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people keep saying that American Airlines has no F cm. that's simply is not true. the handful of times that I flew AA in coach over the last 2 years, I was offered an inexpensive upgrade at the kiosk. I took it each time and each time at the gate there were people on the standby list for first.
Jan 21, 2013, 4:37 pm
#92
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people keep saying that American Airlines has no F cm. that's simply is not true. the handful of times that I flew AA in coach over the last 2 years, I was offered an inexpensive upgrade at the kiosk. I took it each time and each time at the gate there were people on the standby list for first.
Besides, the upgrades aren't at TOD levels.
Define 'inexpensive'
What fares are you buying?
If you're flying a L/M fare the buyup to K isn't exactly lots of money (but money I won't pay anyways, besides, >90% of my flying on AA is on NOQ fares)
Jan 21, 2013, 6:08 pm
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Also, EXP gets access to First Class lounges no matter the cabin class when traveling internationally. Though one might say that *A FCLs are better than OW FCLs, at least they get FCLs that Skyteam doesn't.
Jan 21, 2013, 9:46 pm
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(I personally don't care as much about a 2-3 hour flight for an upgrade.)
PLT/GLD upgrades are 'free' as you get stickers from flying.
Jan 21, 2013, 11:40 pm
#96
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You seem to be the only one in this thread who is reporting the status match starting in 2013 and especially after DL announced the MQD and 100% MQMs for M changes. Your offer and procedures seem to be the same as those who contacted AA in December requesting a match.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Jan 22, 2013, 5:38 am
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You seem to be the only one in this thread who is reporting the status match starting in 2013 and especially after DL announced the MQD and 100% MQMs for M changes. Your offer and procedures seem to be the same as those who contacted AA in December requesting a match.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Jan 22, 2013, 6:04 am
#98
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You seem to be the only one in this thread who is reporting the status match starting in 2013 and especially after DL announced the MQD and 100% MQMs for M changes. Your offer and procedures seem to be the same as those who contacted AA in December requesting a match.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Jan 22, 2013, 6:10 am
#99
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Um yes. 12 flghts in Y (upgradeable if the customer wants) and $36k is a pretty smart business move. Why Delta wants to fire that type of customer is possible one of the biggest airline program blunders in history. If they want to get rid of cheap elites make fare class = lower MQM at THE LOWER CLASSES not the premiums!
Delta is giving AA the keys to the kingdom here because they are FIRING THE WRONG CUSTOMERS. They could not help themselves. The MQD was enough but they had to lower MQM earnings......complete IDIOTS (and so greedy it you can smell it).
Delta is giving AA the keys to the kingdom here because they are FIRING THE WRONG CUSTOMERS. They could not help themselves. The MQD was enough but they had to lower MQM earnings......complete IDIOTS (and so greedy it you can smell it).
Jan 22, 2013, 9:59 am
#100
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This is hilarious! So now there are so many Delta M fare buyers that AA is going to make a killing off of this? Didn't the mob on this board call the Delta SWUs useless because most here couldn't afford or didn't want to pay the M fares in the first place???
Jan 22, 2013, 10:14 am
#101
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Not this particular person, but if they are eager to match DMs to EXP right now, they'll get lots of those who can't qualify under the new MQD requirements, who on average aren't very profitable DMs.
Jan 22, 2013, 11:32 am
#102
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What would make AA more interesting to Eastern US travelers who do the majority of their business in Asia is if the rumor about teaming up with EK were true. Flight time would be similar to westward travel, plus I would assume that DXB is a better place to connect than NRT/ICN due to year round sunshine. Add in all of those brand new shiny planes EK has and it's very tempting.
Jan 22, 2013, 5:26 pm
#103
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You seem to be the only one in this thread who is reporting the status match starting in 2013 and especially after DL announced the MQD and 100% MQMs for M changes. Your offer and procedures seem to be the same as those who contacted AA in December requesting a match.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Did you get any sense that AA wants to encourage this even more now, after the DL FF program changes have been announced? If so, I'm surprised that AA would be so willing to chase after customers that are now more likely to be those that DL doesn't want. Maybe it's a sign of desperation.
Jan 22, 2013, 8:23 pm
#104
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I wouldn't be too sure. The new $$ threshold is only part of the problem. The lowering of already expense M fares to 100% MQM from 150% is immediate and is making this Diamond thinking of jumping ship now.
Jan 22, 2013, 9:05 pm
#105
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Should add clearing 12 upgrades in a row is a nice start to 2013.
