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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
Look at the profit margins of NK, and tell me it doesn't work.
DAL pps= $8.91

ALGT pps (flying those beaters you are so fond of bubba )= $67.08

It's obvious who has the better model.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by james318
No problems here logging in.
Oh boy. My login looks like this. I assure you this is new from last night.

Your Account Status and Summary
SkyMiles Number: xxxxxxxxxx
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incl. Medallion® Qualification Miles (rolled over): 0
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Has anyone looked at earnings from E fares? I would expect that to go first.
+1. Canary in the coal mine.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
No, I think you have missed my points entirely over the last 1750+ postings. It is sad that is the only thing some have. It has made them so dillusional they have trumped their own worth in their own mind and fallen head over heels for a marketing scheme. Really actually sad.
well, at least 1700 of those posts seem to be some sort of screed against those who do not pay tons of money for their fares (as i can only assume from those posts that you do), so i think that my observation is spot-on. i think at this point, we all understand what you're thinking.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:30 pm
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Originally Posted by sbjnyc
You might as well compare McDonald's with a hot dog vendor.
When another business is doing well, McDonald's actually adopts it and adapts to it. Look at the premium coffee market that McD's has largely entered over the past two years.

If the hot dog vendor (NK) has higher margins than McDonald's (DL) (AND THAT FACT IS INDISPUTABLE BY ANY OVER-ENTITLED LUT ELITE), then maybe McD's has to look at what the hot dog vendor is doing.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:31 pm
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Maybe new fares were erroneously (or not) loaded as "unpublished/special fares":

Unpublished Fare Mileage Earn Table
Unpublished Fare Class of Service Miles* MQMs*
First/Business - J, C, D, S, I, F, P, A 150% 100%
Premium Economy - Y, B, M 100% 100%
Economy, H 75% 75%
Discounted Economy - Q, K, L 50% 50%
Deeply Discounted Economy - U, T, E 25% 25%


Like another poster said DL.com still says you get 100% mqm on T fares.

But the chart for the unpublished has the discounted MQM's. I still don't get the 25% RDM and 25% of 25% MQM's:

Delta 1604 Detroit-Wayne County, MItoFort Lauderdale, FL T 282 0 282 70 1
Delta 1202 Fort Lauderdale, FLtoDetroit-Wayne County, MI T 282 0 282 70 1
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:31 pm
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Flew 9/4 and all look okay

05 Sep 2012
Delta 0545 from Salt Lake City, UT(SLC) to Phoenix, AZ(PHX)
Activity Date : 04 Sep 2012 507 507 1014 507 1
Miles 507 507
100% Platinum Medallion Bonus 507
Class Paid/Flown : U/V
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:32 pm
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Update from Delta

Hi, all. It's been a while. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We're working to get to the bottom of it but one thing is certain - it is incorrect. Hope to have it resolved soon. I'll check back again once we know more.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by DLCorpGirl
Hi, all. It's been a while. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We're working to get to the bottom of it but one thing is certain - it is incorrect. Hope to have it resolved soon. I'll check back again once we know more.
{{{{DLCorpGirl}}}} you are amazing and probably beautiful!
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:33 pm
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Curious how many people will jump ship if/when this is implemented. I could see a lot of frequent leisure travellers that would go. I'd be one of them.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by babeavs13
I ran a Q fare and got 50% and then 50% of that for MQM. As said before H appears to be 75%. YBM are still showing me 150%.
Wow, H is a high fare... only 75% for H is ludicrous.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by DLCorpGirl
Hi, all. It's been a while. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We're working to get to the bottom of it but one thing is certain - it is incorrect. Hope to have it resolved soon. I'll check back again once we know more.

What kind of compensation will we receive for this miscommunication?
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:36 pm
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I was able to access my account and my M fares posted at 150% as expected, both before and after September 1.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by aubreyfromwheaton
{{{{DLCorpGirl}}}} you are amazing and probably beautiful!
Correct, I am both.
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Old Sep 5, 2012, 12:37 pm
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4 segments in Sept...all posted correctly
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