MQM Valuation Based on Fare Paid Now Showing on Delta.com
#346
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There ya go! Keep badgering.....youll keep her coming back for more. Next tell her how valuable your t fare really is. DOESNT SHE KNOW WHO U ARE?!?!?!?!?
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#348
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- avidflyer: There were some recent changes to redemption levels at mid- and high-tier in some international locations, a few up, one down. No changes to low award levels. Not that you need my help, but you can find the updated charts here. It works like a pricing change, so legally, we’re not allowed to notify folks in advance. However, we’re obviously not prevented from sharing it with you once the change has been made. We'll certainly keep this in mind for future announcements.
#349
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Where do these posters come from? Do most of them not have jobs/lives?
I can't even keep up with threads for programs I use, much less spend time posting rants about programs I don't use.
#350
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Depends. What is the rpm vs casm? Most on here wont use that formula because it will prove my point every single time....instead they will use the horse$hittery of forcing others to buy higher fares. Now 20 t fares sold to kettles is surely more valuable than an "elite" sucking up benefits @ the same fare. That is common sense
#351
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Be nice to the Delta reps who clue us in to changes, even if only after the fact. There is no law saying that they have to notify customers of award redemption changes, and the market has proven that no notification is required to keep their customers.
Delta's customers, for whatever reason, seem to remain loyal regardless of SkyMiles changes. Personally (and I know this is not the FlyerTalk way), the redemption value is less than .4% (spend $6k to get $200 worth of award travel), so I already consider SkyMiles to be worthless. GM is worth SP benefits and free domestic EC. Nothing else is worthwhile in the SkyMiles program to me.
I pay $600 - $1,300 per (coach) ticket and almost never have a prayer of an upgrade. Given the poor SkyMiles earning rate and lack of good redemption options (for my personal travel needs), it would appear that there is no reason for me to be loyal. However the service is generally good and consistent, and the Pre-check benefits (not an option on all airlines even with GE) in addition to SP benefits (priority seats, boarding, and security access) are worth the premium.
The SkyMiles earning/redemption potential is already of negligible worth to me, and thus has little to no bearing on my airfare purchase decisions.
#352
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Well I would say it isn't worth the headache to even be in a position to have someone say the company is "signaling". I believe back in 2008 AirTran launced the $15 baggage fee and a week or two later Delta announced the fee as well and the two were sued for collusion. Would be tough to prove but why would any large company even want to subject themselves to that? This is the reason why Delta (and all other airlines) don't discuss future pricing actions
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I'm sure inflight can make you a copy.
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I hope it costs DL management, as I said earlier. A different management team may be more customer-friendly than what is now and has been before (such as during the Leo Mullins days).
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Depends. What is the rpm vs casm? Most on here wont use that formula because it will prove my point every single time....instead they will use the horse$hittery of forcing others to buy higher fares. Now 20 t fares sold to kettles is surely more valuable than an "elite" sucking up benefits @ the same fare. That is common sense
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