A disappointing experience - or a reflection of how things are?
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There is something to say about rote 'follow the rules' mentality, thus pissing off a family of frequent travelers, and bending the rules in the case of split family (OPs choice, so not THAT much sympathy) and a deserted F cabin.
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The 2 yo was for some reason fussing instead of falling asleep as he normally does, needed to be changed (he ended up in our arms for most of the flight), so I went to an FA to give her our coats and was then helping my wife with changing, moving the bags to the overhead bins, unpacking the blankets/pillows, etc.
The purser showed up no, not with drinks or menus, and not to welcome us or greet us by name but to tell me that I could not be in the Business cabin. Mind you, we were still on the ground, with the door open, I was on my knees in the bulkhead well out of everyones way attending to our son...
The purser showed up no, not with drinks or menus, and not to welcome us or greet us by name but to tell me that I could not be in the Business cabin. Mind you, we were still on the ground, with the door open, I was on my knees in the bulkhead well out of everyones way attending to our son...
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If you want to turn this into a p-----g contest we can do that. You insulted my integrity above, you called the above poster a prude. Do I personally care? Nope. I am not that sensitive at all. But quite frankly, whatever good will you hoped to get from this board decreases with each successive post of yours. As someone above said, some people agree with you, some disagree with you. And that's the way it is going to be. Period. But insulting those who disagree with you makes many begin to question the veracity of your original complaint and your overall attitude, and it won't change a single attitude here about your original complaint. The world does not revolve around you.. As someone else also said, for many of us, it was difficult even getting through your original post because of its length, but many people here in good faith took the time to do so. If you do write DL, ,my last suggestion before I say sayonara and let you wallow in your misery and angst, is to suggest that you cut your original post in half before emailing it to DL. And absolutely finally, people here, whether they agree with you or not, have long memories about those who insult others here and may well judge your future posts and complaints, and their reasonableness or lack thereof, by your attitude in this thread.
And with that, I, too, am through with you and this thread. Bye.
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years ago, they would have slipped you up there and it would have been a win/win as far as I am concerned. Now, if they did, some Gold in EC would have written a letter about unfair treatment.
It seems to me the FA was on the defensive. Either by perception or prejudice of you having kids and being split up. Not saying it is right, but it may explain the situation...
It seems to me the FA was on the defensive. Either by perception or prejudice of you having kids and being split up. Not saying it is right, but it may explain the situation...
Not so long ago, that would have been an auto OPUP on DL.
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If you want to turn this into a p-----g contest we can do that. You insulted my integrity above, you called the above poster a prude. Do I personally care? Nope. I am not that sensitive at all. But quite frankly, whatever good will you hoped to get from this board decreases with each successive post of yours. As someone above said, some people agree with you, some disagree with you. And that's the way it is going to be. Period. But insulting those who disagree with you makes many begin to question the veracity of your original complaint and your overall attitude, and it won't change a single attitude here about your original complaint. The world does not revolve around you.. As someone else also said, for many of us, it was difficult even getting through your original post because of its length, but many people here in good faith took the time to do so. If you do write DL, ,my last suggestion before I say sayonara and let you wallow in your misery and angst, is to suggest that you cut your original post in half before emailing it to DL. And absolutely finally, people here, whether they agree with you or not, have long memories about those who insult others here and may well judge your future posts and complaints, and their reasonableness or lack thereof, by your attitude in this thread.
And with that, I, too, am through with you and this thread. Bye.
And with that, I, too, am through with you and this thread. Bye.
Anyhoo, OP, drop the non rev stuff, mention the IFE snafu and the rudeness of the FA and feel free to mention the empty BE cabin. I'm sure it's policy more than anything the kept you out of there...which is stupid, under the circumstances but I don't blame the purser for that.
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One unpleasantness I've noticed over the years on international flights is how confrontational certain FAs can be with Y pax standing up near the curtain. I once had a row 15 seat (first row of coach); I put my carry-on in the bin overhead the pilot rest seat, and a male FA rousted me when I got up to get something out of the bag mid-flight. I've occasionally seen them harrass others sitting near the curtain that they surmise might be trying to invade BE. They never seem to harrass pax on domestic flights in Y coming up to use the forward lav.
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Passengers from coach should not enter BE to contact family/friends unless a true EMERGENCY is occurring at which point an FA/pilot should be involved. Changing a diaper isn't an emergency nor is a child vomiting. These are both routine childcare responsibilities, and if both parents feel the need to be present for such events they need to purchase tickets in the same cabin. It would be no different for people traveling with spouses or friends. Outside a true medical emergency I can't think of a situation where contact would be required.
For those who think such a viewpoint is callous and unfriendly, I would question whether they understand the slippery slope of allowing constant visits to another cabin for leisure purposes.
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I'm sure about it (http://www.ausbt.com.au/malaysia-air...on-airbus-a380), more airlines should take a leaf out of MH's book, and the fact the OP's request is seen as "nothing out of the ordinary" reflects a lack of consideration for other passengers.
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Anyhoo, OP, drop the non rev stuff, mention the IFE snafu and the rudeness of the FA and feel free to mention the empty BE cabin. I'm sure it's policy more than anything the kept you out of there...which is stupid, under the circumstances but I don't blame the purser for that.
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Case in point: Four people standing in a line watching an accident happen will see and accurately describe four different accidents. Each one's perspective will provide an accurate rendition of the events, and their assessment on the "what caused it" portion of the accident will be significantly impacted by their own perspective.

