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kentchristopher Mar 3, 2021 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by JHake10 (Post 33070162)
Likewise. I'm with HSBC Premier for the international presence. I'm definitely not with them for their dated tech :D. Citibank is interesting but I'm not sure I want to much a bunch of investments around to be Citigold. Based on some quick reading it seems Citigold doesn't even include fee waived wire transfers.

If it helps, I think Chase Sapphire checking has free incoming and outgoing wire transfers including free international wire transfers. Worth double checking but it's mentioned here.


Originally Posted by TravelinSperry (Post 33075142)
Your qualifying account doesn't have to remain in the US. If you want to keep premier, you could keep the required minimums in your other HSBC account. I have changed my qualifying account and it's quite easy (assuming you have multiple accounts with HSBC in different countries).

So do you maintain premier status as long as the foreign account has an average balance over $75k if converted to USD based on daily rates? Or does the foreign account have it's own bar in the local currency (e.g. 60k EUR)? I'd also be curious to here what HSBC's exchange rates are like compared to other options (I see TransferWise mentioned a lot).

stanj Mar 3, 2021 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by kentchristopher (Post 33075232)
So do you maintain premier status as long as the foreign account has an average balance over $75k if converted to USD based on daily rates? Or does the foreign account have it's own bar in the local currency (e.g. 60k EUR)? I'd also be curious to here what HSBC's exchange rates are like compared to other options (I see TransferWise mentioned a lot).

You have to meet the Premier requirements in whatever country you maintain that qualifying balance (e.g., GBP 50K in the UK, HKD 1Mil in Hong Kong). There are some alternate ways in some countries such as having a certain level of income plus holding a mortgage or other specified product.

Another option is HSBC Expat (qualifying level is similar to UK), where you can hold accounts in a few different currencies. Anyone have any experience with establishing a Premier relationship through them?

As far as exchange rates, HSBC's are not very good compared to TransferWise. I just priced a $10K transfer--with HSBC it would equal GBP 7003.21 w/ TransferWise it would be GBP 7114.30.

SouthernCross Mar 4, 2021 6:34 am

Does anyone know if HSBC is still actively accepting credit card apps?

thanks!

JHake10 Mar 4, 2021 10:33 am


Originally Posted by kentchristopher (Post 33075232)
If it helps, I think Chase Sapphire checking has free incoming and outgoing wire transfers including free international wire transfers. Worth double checking but it's mentioned here.

Yep, Chase Sapphire Checking is likely what I'd move to eventually. They don't have the international presence but have everything else I'm looking for. There is 75K minimum and retirement accounts don't count unfortunately.

xov91 Mar 4, 2021 11:06 am


Originally Posted by JHake10 (Post 33077042)
Yep, Chase Sapphire Checking is likely what I'd move to eventually. They don't have the international presence but have everything else I'm looking for. There is 75K minimum and retirement accounts don't count unfortunately.

Retirement accounts actually do count for the minimum as far as waiving the monthly fee, just not for a new account bonus.

JHake10 Mar 4, 2021 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by xov91 (Post 33077139)
Retirement accounts actually do count for the minimum as far as waiving the monthly fee, just not for a new account bonus.

That's good to know! Makes things even easier. I can just transfer an IRA and call it a day :D

The Points Guy noted that IRAs didn't count. However, they may have been talking about bonus requirements though.


Q: What counts toward the $75,000 balance requirement?

A: You need to bring in $75,000 in new assets, including:
  • Checking accounts (up to nine personal checking accounts, excluding Chase Private Client checking)
  • Personal savings accounts (excluding Chase Private Client Savings)
  • Liquid cards
  • CDs
  • Certain retirement CDs
  • Certain retirement money market accounts and investment and annuity products offered by JPMorgan Chase & Co. or its affiliates and agencies
On that last point, cash transfers and securities (like ETFs and mutual funds) from other non-retirement brokerage accounts like Vanguard will count toward the $75,000 requirement.

As for what does not qualify, Chase says 529 college savings plans; any retirement accounts including traditional Roth and IRAs, Keogh, Simple IRAs and 401(k) plans; fixed and variable annuities; and insurance products are excluded.

mia Mar 6, 2021 8:25 pm

I see that HSBC is closing a co-branded retail bank in the UK. Announcement in March, all accounts must be closed by August. (A "current account" is the UK equivalent of a USA "checking account".)


M&S Bank – which is a joint venture between HSBC and the retailer – says all of its current accounts will close in August, along with its Monthly Saver account. In addition, the 29 in-store M&S Bank branches will close in early July.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...store-branches

TravelinSperry Mar 8, 2021 7:19 am


Originally Posted by kentchristopher (Post 33075232)
If it helps, I think Chase Sapphire checking has free incoming and outgoing wire transfers including free international wire transfers. Worth double checking but it's mentioned here.



So do you maintain premier status as long as the foreign account has an average balance over $75k if converted to USD based on daily rates? Or does the foreign account have it's own bar in the local currency (e.g. 60k EUR)? I'd also be curious to here what HSBC's exchange rates are like compared to other options (I see TransferWise mentioned a lot).

Your premier status is maintained by keeping the average balance in the home country currency. Each country has it's own level - many of which differ from the $75k USD limit set here in the US. For example, Australia HSBC requires one to maintain a savings balance of AUD150,000. Canada requires 100,000 CAD. UK requires 50,000 GBP. Etc.

TravelinSperry Mar 8, 2021 7:20 am


Originally Posted by stanj (Post 33075418)
You have to meet the Premier requirements in whatever country you maintain that qualifying balance (e.g., GBP 50K in the UK, HKD 1Mil in Hong Kong). There are some alternate ways in some countries such as having a certain level of income plus holding a mortgage or other specified product.

Another option is HSBC Expat (qualifying level is similar to UK), where you can hold accounts in a few different currencies. Anyone have any experience with establishing a Premier relationship through them?

As far as exchange rates, HSBC's are not very good compared to TransferWise. I just priced a $10K transfer--with HSBC it would equal GBP 7003.21 w/ TransferWise it would be GBP 7114.30.

My experience is similar to Stan. HSBC global transfer rates are not good at all. Transferwise (now Wise) is much better.

kentchristopher Mar 8, 2021 7:41 am


Originally Posted by TravelinSperry (Post 33085416)
Your premier status is maintained by keeping the average balance in the home country currency. Each country has it's own level - many of which differ from the $75k USD limit set here in the US. For example, Australia HSBC requires one to maintain a savings balance of AUD150,000. Canada requires 100,000 CAD. UK requires 50,000 GBP. Etc.

Can you open a foreign currency account, e.g. a euro account in Spain, while still in the US, and without a mailing address in that country?

stanj Mar 8, 2021 9:42 am


Originally Posted by kentchristopher (Post 33085462)
Can you open a foreign currency account, e.g. a euro account in Spain, while still in the US, and without a mailing address in that country?

I don't think HSBC Spain offers personal bank accounts, only corporate.

I'm not sure about the local address requirement, while banks in many countries require local addresses in order to open accounts, my understanding is that banks in Spain offer accounts for non-residents.

If you're looking to stay with HSBC, as I mentioned in a previoius post, HSBC Expat offers multi-currency accounts (USD, GBP, and Euro), so you could presumably open an Expat Euro account with an address in the US.

TravelinSperry Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by kentchristopher (Post 33085462)
Can you open a foreign currency account, e.g. a euro account in Spain, while still in the US, and without a mailing address in that country?

I was able to open foreign currency accounts with HSBCs outside of the US. However, to open the account initially I had to visit the HSBC branch in person. A local address was not required for the countries I opened as an HSBC Premier member. This is not true for all HSBC countries, just the ones I ended up opening. I recall some requiring a local address. Contact your HSBC Premier Account rep (or 800#) and they can tell you what countries are available without local address to HSBC members. But remember, you will have to visit in person to open the account initially.

JHake10 Mar 12, 2021 8:34 pm

HSBC finally updated their online banking UI (not all pages). Just in time for them to sell off the business I guess :rolleyes:

JHake10 Apr 1, 2021 4:56 pm

Just had someone reach out to me wanting to chat. I've never had anyone reach out to me since I opened my Premier account about two years ago.


[...]I am a Service Manager at HSBC Premier Direct banking team working together with your Premier Relationship Manager.

Please let me know when is a good time for a brief conversation as I would like to ask couple of questions regarding your current HSBC account utilization, and discuss what I can assist with.
I'm guessing this is just a sales pitch? I don't see why I'd move any other assets to HSBC since they are looking to potentially close up shop.

stanj Apr 1, 2021 8:02 pm


Originally Posted by JHake10 (Post 33144846)
Just had someone reach out to me wanting to chat. I've never had anyone reach out to me since I opened my Premier account about two years ago.

I'm guessing this is just a sales pitch? I don't see why I'd move any other assets to HSBC since they are looking to potentially close up shop.

I get that kind of a call every year from both the relationship manager and investment advisor. The investment advisor just wants to confirm I don't want to make any chages. The relationship manager's call is usually a "nothing in particular to discuss, just wanted to touch base" type. Never had a hard sales pitch, but I guess it might depend on how aggressive your relationship manager is.


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