2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
#512
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
For Citi, consider prepaying things like cable or other bills (so you hit spend in required time) if your cash flow can absorb. I'm pretty cautious - I know folks get away with manufactured spend, but if you're in it for the long haul mixing in as much real spend as possible is best esp. in the early going.
I have a similar goal - fly to Europe in J (or F, I'm not picky). There's no one card, I rotate so that we have points in each alliance, plus flexiblity with Membership Rewards and SPG. We're flexible, so we can always get a trip planned. Once we've burned, I try to earn but now it's what cards we can get.
I have a similar goal - fly to Europe in J (or F, I'm not picky). There's no one card, I rotate so that we have points in each alliance, plus flexiblity with Membership Rewards and SPG. We're flexible, so we can always get a trip planned. Once we've burned, I try to earn but now it's what cards we can get.
#514
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 14
Wow, so much great advice. Thanks, guys! I did find the 50k MileagePlus link so will definitely do that + ONE other Chase card...I'm torn between the Ink Bold (I'd have a hard time dealing with the questions in the reconsideration line) and the Sapphire Mastercard (I still don't know if I'll actually get the bonus for this one since I already have the Visa, and I keep hearing different experiences–some say to cancel the Visa first, others that they were told you can't do both, and others that you simply apply for the Mastercard).
As to NON-Chase cards, I'd love to start building miles toward a different airline. The SWA cards are Chase so they're out. I like the idea of doing the Citi AA and US Air 30-40k cards, but don't like the idea of paying the $89 annual fee for the US Air card. SO...any other suggestions for 2-3 NON-chase cards that build miles toward a specific airline but that don't have annual fees? Otherwise, I *might* bite the bullet on the AA and US Air cards. I'll also look at the AmEx cards; the main airlines I'd be interested in transferring to there are Delta and British.
Thanks!!!!
As to NON-Chase cards, I'd love to start building miles toward a different airline. The SWA cards are Chase so they're out. I like the idea of doing the Citi AA and US Air 30-40k cards, but don't like the idea of paying the $89 annual fee for the US Air card. SO...any other suggestions for 2-3 NON-chase cards that build miles toward a specific airline but that don't have annual fees? Otherwise, I *might* bite the bullet on the AA and US Air cards. I'll also look at the AmEx cards; the main airlines I'd be interested in transferring to there are Delta and British.
Thanks!!!!
#516
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 21
Mini AoR
Just to add another data point:
pre-AoR
Score: 780-790
Most recent applications: Jan 2013 (Amex Platinum, Chase Sapphire Preferred)
Open credit cards: 12
Total CL: $92.5k
Approved:
Amex Business Platinum (No preset spending, 100k bonus w/ $10k spend, $450 annual fee)
Citi Aadvantage Platinum Visa (13k CL, 50k bonus w/ $3k spend, $0 first year)
Barclays US Airways (12k CL, 35k bonus w/ first purchase, $0 first year)
Chase United Explorer (4k CL*reallocated, 50k bonus w/ $1k spend, $0 first year)
Chase Ink Bold Business (10k CL, 50k bonus w/ $5k spend, $0 first year)
Pending:
Citi Advantage Gold Mastercard (30k bonus w/ $750 spend)
Total new CL: $35k
Total bonus: 285k points/miles
Total minimum spend: $19k (plan to pay income taxes and other upcoming professional expenses)
*I had 4 Chase cards pre-AoR and had to call in for approval. They would only allow me to reallocate from other cards, so I took that option.
For the AA Gold card, I came across some who had gotten instant approval w/ the AA Platinum card, same-day. But there were also people suggesting applying for the Platinum on day 1, and Gold on day 2. Hope that helps.
pre-AoR
Score: 780-790
Most recent applications: Jan 2013 (Amex Platinum, Chase Sapphire Preferred)
Open credit cards: 12
Total CL: $92.5k
Approved:
Amex Business Platinum (No preset spending, 100k bonus w/ $10k spend, $450 annual fee)
Citi Aadvantage Platinum Visa (13k CL, 50k bonus w/ $3k spend, $0 first year)
Barclays US Airways (12k CL, 35k bonus w/ first purchase, $0 first year)
Chase United Explorer (4k CL*reallocated, 50k bonus w/ $1k spend, $0 first year)
Chase Ink Bold Business (10k CL, 50k bonus w/ $5k spend, $0 first year)
Pending:
Citi Advantage Gold Mastercard (30k bonus w/ $750 spend)
Total new CL: $35k
Total bonus: 285k points/miles
Total minimum spend: $19k (plan to pay income taxes and other upcoming professional expenses)
*I had 4 Chase cards pre-AoR and had to call in for approval. They would only allow me to reallocate from other cards, so I took that option.
For the AA Gold card, I came across some who had gotten instant approval w/ the AA Platinum card, same-day. But there were also people suggesting applying for the Platinum on day 1, and Gold on day 2. Hope that helps.
#517
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BOS
Posts: 588
Thanks for the data point. One question, is that Amex Platinum business offer a targeted offer, or something generally available that I just didn't notice?
#518
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
Look at it this way for the US Air card. Its one purchase for 30-40k miles. Even if you have to pay the $89 AF (are there no more apps that waive it?) It's still worth the $90 for that many (potentially) AA miles.
Delta miles are kind of worthless, as are BA ones, unless you intend to use them on AA. The fuel surcharges are ridiculous.
Delta miles are kind of worthless, as are BA ones, unless you intend to use them on AA. The fuel surcharges are ridiculous.
Last edited by PainCorp; Mar 7, 2013 at 4:02 pm
#519
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: AA, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,887
Still not a bad bonus though, especially considering you can use them to book on AA. Hmm, I wonder if you use BA miles to purchase the ticket on AA metal, can you use AA miles to upgrade it?
#520
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
Ok - i am going to try and finalize the 5 cards i am going to apply for. Aiming to get at least 250K points.
I have been trying to convince my brother to apply with me as well. He is scared of getting denied as his score is 715 on avg. Do you guys know out of the cards we have talked about above, which ones he would have a good chance of getting approved for?
Thank you
I have been trying to convince my brother to apply with me as well. He is scared of getting denied as his score is 715 on avg. Do you guys know out of the cards we have talked about above, which ones he would have a good chance of getting approved for?
Thank you
#522
Join Date: Mar 2012
Programs: Hilton, Hyatt, Priority, SPG - AA, Hawaiian Airline, United, US Airline
Posts: 608
the Starwood Preferred Guest Card: I am thinking about this card. Great!
Hilton HHonors Reserve card: I dont have any plan for 2 or 3 years. So I think this card is not right for me. I am collecting Hilton points at CVS to max my 6x before it is discontinue even though I know that Hilton points is in devaluation.
US Bank has a FlexPerks Visa card: I am not familiar about this card. Do you know where should I find this information? Will this point be expired? Is there any annual fee for this card?
Chase: I love this Freedom. My first Freedom was cancel because I am abuse. However, I was lucky enough to transfer all my points to Hyatt ^_^. I am just received my United a week ago. So I am lucky I am not in blacklist . I will get Freedom card for my next churn.
British Airways: I really love 100,000 points. I hope British Airway still has offer 100,000 points when I do next churn.
Thank you very much for your help.
Hilton HHonors Reserve card: I dont have any plan for 2 or 3 years. So I think this card is not right for me. I am collecting Hilton points at CVS to max my 6x before it is discontinue even though I know that Hilton points is in devaluation.
US Bank has a FlexPerks Visa card: I am not familiar about this card. Do you know where should I find this information? Will this point be expired? Is there any annual fee for this card?
Chase: I love this Freedom. My first Freedom was cancel because I am abuse. However, I was lucky enough to transfer all my points to Hyatt ^_^. I am just received my United a week ago. So I am lucky I am not in blacklist . I will get Freedom card for my next churn.
British Airways: I really love 100,000 points. I hope British Airway still has offer 100,000 points when I do next churn.
Thank you very much for your help.
#523
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA 1k, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 142
The US Bank FlexPerks visa has a $49 annual fee, but you can pay it with 3500 FlexPerks points, depending on how good a value you get in your points.
For more information:
There was a lengthy discussion on FlyerTalk when this card had a 33,150 offer last year around Olympics. This thread is quite long:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...us-no-fee.html
I have a short post that talks about the specifics of the card and how I redeemed FlexPerks for a trip to Cancun. May be useful to hear about experience actually redeeming the points:
http://themilesprofessor.com/2013/02...ewards-cancun/
And of course you can find info on the US Bank website, including the bonus categories that earn double/triple points.
https://www.usbank.com/credit-cards/...ks-travel.html
This is one of my favorite cards so let me know if you have any questions. I go into why on my post.
By the way, if you decide to apply for the card, it does give a 5000 point bonus for their refer a friend program. If you don't find someone you'd rather refer you by then, PM me and I would be happy to give you my FlexPerks number to enter in their refer a friend
For more information:
There was a lengthy discussion on FlyerTalk when this card had a 33,150 offer last year around Olympics. This thread is quite long:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...us-no-fee.html
I have a short post that talks about the specifics of the card and how I redeemed FlexPerks for a trip to Cancun. May be useful to hear about experience actually redeeming the points:
http://themilesprofessor.com/2013/02...ewards-cancun/
And of course you can find info on the US Bank website, including the bonus categories that earn double/triple points.
https://www.usbank.com/credit-cards/...ks-travel.html
This is one of my favorite cards so let me know if you have any questions. I go into why on my post.
By the way, if you decide to apply for the card, it does give a 5000 point bonus for their refer a friend program. If you don't find someone you'd rather refer you by then, PM me and I would be happy to give you my FlexPerks number to enter in their refer a friend
#524
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
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#525
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: BOS
Programs: AA, SPG, UA, CSP
Posts: 338
Ok All -
I have applied for 4 cards (see below). I want to apply for ONE more - Any ideas. I want to do it today and get it done with. The below is what happened in the first round of AOR.
Citi AA (50K points - used the link which doesnt really state the amount, risky but most people stated its ok) - Approved
Chase Ink Bold Business (50k points) - Pending decision
Amex Business Gold (75k points) - Approved
Barclays US Air (40k points) - Pending decision
A couple of questions - should i be proactive and call Barclays and Chase to find out the decision?
I would love to apply for one more decent size card (40-50k). Any ideas?
Thanks.
I have applied for 4 cards (see below). I want to apply for ONE more - Any ideas. I want to do it today and get it done with. The below is what happened in the first round of AOR.
Citi AA (50K points - used the link which doesnt really state the amount, risky but most people stated its ok) - Approved
Chase Ink Bold Business (50k points) - Pending decision
Amex Business Gold (75k points) - Approved
Barclays US Air (40k points) - Pending decision
A couple of questions - should i be proactive and call Barclays and Chase to find out the decision?
I would love to apply for one more decent size card (40-50k). Any ideas?
Thanks.