2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
#1516
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: United, UR, AA, USAirways, AirTran, JetBlue, SPG, Hilton
Posts: 25
First AoR Complete!
Just completed my first ever AoR! Thank you all for everything!
1) Chase United Explorer Personal (55k) - had to call
2) Chase United Explorer Business (50k) - had to call
3) Citi AA Visa (50k) -instant
4) Amex SPG (30k) -instant
5) Barclays Us Airways MC (35k) -instant
Will apply for 2nd Citi AA in 8 days.
Was thinking of going for one more before the day is over - maybe I'm getting too greedy . Really want the CSP but don't want to risk it with Chase since I have an Ink Plus with them as well as a no-fee United.
Any sage advice?
1) Chase United Explorer Personal (55k) - had to call
2) Chase United Explorer Business (50k) - had to call
3) Citi AA Visa (50k) -instant
4) Amex SPG (30k) -instant
5) Barclays Us Airways MC (35k) -instant
Will apply for 2nd Citi AA in 8 days.
Was thinking of going for one more before the day is over - maybe I'm getting too greedy . Really want the CSP but don't want to risk it with Chase since I have an Ink Plus with them as well as a no-fee United.
Any sage advice?
#1517
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: ORD
Posts: 269
2013 App-O-Rama (AOR) and Churn Advice Archive
You won't get three chase cards in one day. I would hold off on the CSP.
#1518
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 89
I had a couple questions about order as well. Applying for:
Barclays Arrival
SPG Business
United Business
Alaska Airlines
Citi 50K Visa (second will be a week later)
I'm planning on applying on Barclays first, suggestions on order otherwise?
I've seen the 25, 30, and 40k Alaskan offers. How churnable are they? Trying to decide which one to go for and only have 1 BOA card (Hawaiian Airlines) and not much history with them.
Thanks
Barclays Arrival
SPG Business
United Business
Alaska Airlines
Citi 50K Visa (second will be a week later)
I'm planning on applying on Barclays first, suggestions on order otherwise?
I've seen the 25, 30, and 40k Alaskan offers. How churnable are they? Trying to decide which one to go for and only have 1 BOA card (Hawaiian Airlines) and not much history with them.
Thanks
#1519
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHX & AGP
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,463
I had a couple questions about order as well. Applying for:
Barclays Arrival
SPG Business
United Business
Alaska Airlines
Citi 50K Visa (second will be a week later)
I'm planning on applying on Barclays first, suggestions on order otherwise?
I've seen the 25, 30, and 40k Alaskan offers. How churnable are they? Trying to decide which one to go for and only have 1 BOA card (Hawaiian Airlines) and not much history with them.
Thanks
Barclays Arrival
SPG Business
United Business
Alaska Airlines
Citi 50K Visa (second will be a week later)
I'm planning on applying on Barclays first, suggestions on order otherwise?
I've seen the 25, 30, and 40k Alaskan offers. How churnable are they? Trying to decide which one to go for and only have 1 BOA card (Hawaiian Airlines) and not much history with them.
Thanks
#1520
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Tampa, FL
Programs: SPG Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 194
Just completed my first ever AoR! Thank you all for everything!
1) Chase United Explorer Personal (55k) - had to call
2) Chase United Explorer Business (50k) - had to call
3) Citi AA Visa (50k) -instant
4) Amex SPG (30k) -instant
5) Barclays Us Airways MC (35k) -instant
Will apply for 2nd Citi AA in 8 days.
Was thinking of going for one more before the day is over - maybe I'm getting too greedy . Really want the CSP but don't want to risk it with Chase since I have an Ink Plus with them as well as a no-fee United.
Any sage advice?
1) Chase United Explorer Personal (55k) - had to call
2) Chase United Explorer Business (50k) - had to call
3) Citi AA Visa (50k) -instant
4) Amex SPG (30k) -instant
5) Barclays Us Airways MC (35k) -instant
Will apply for 2nd Citi AA in 8 days.
Was thinking of going for one more before the day is over - maybe I'm getting too greedy . Really want the CSP but don't want to risk it with Chase since I have an Ink Plus with them as well as a no-fee United.
Any sage advice?
Planning a churn very similar to yours, except I already have the US Airways. Gonna wait a few months for another one.
Any reason you did the United biz and personal in the same day? I already have a Freedom, CSP, and Ink Bold so I'm not sure if I want to do both of those cards. Was deciding between the personal and biz, although I'm leaning towards the personal with a bonus of 5,000 for the authorized user.
#1521
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: United, UR, AA, USAirways, AirTran, JetBlue, SPG, Hilton
Posts: 25
Planning a churn very similar to yours, except I already have the US Airways. Gonna wait a few months for another one.
Any reason you did the United biz and personal in the same day? I already have a Freedom, CSP, and Ink Bold so I'm not sure if I want to do both of those cards. Was deciding between the personal and biz, although I'm leaning towards the personal with a bonus of 5,000 for the authorized user.
Any reason you did the United biz and personal in the same day? I already have a Freedom, CSP, and Ink Bold so I'm not sure if I want to do both of those cards. Was deciding between the personal and biz, although I'm leaning towards the personal with a bonus of 5,000 for the authorized user.
#1522
#1523
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta Diamond, AA EXP, US Platinum, VA Gold, Starwood Platinum 75, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 247
Can someone help me w AOR advice? Looking to get the following:
AA Citi Platinum Select Visa 50k
Some Business AA Visa/MC (recommendations welcomed) 50k
Club Carlson Visa
Best DL Offer w MQMs (recommendations welcomed)
AA Citi Platinum Select Visa 50k
Some Business AA Visa/MC (recommendations welcomed) 50k
Club Carlson Visa
Best DL Offer w MQMs (recommendations welcomed)
#1524
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: ORD
Posts: 269
If you apply for the Club Carlson card, do it first. From everything I've read, they're the hardest to get approval for. The Delta cards require 60k and 50k in spend to get the full amount of MQMs. Are you comfortable spending that much in a year?
#1525
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Delta Diamond, AA EXP, US Platinum, VA Gold, Starwood Platinum 75, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 247
Somewhat comfortable, but not for this calendar year given only 4 months.
Are there any good Skymiles offers for threshold spend to get MQMs? Most I'm seeing is 5k Plat, 10k Reserve, both w mediocre RDMs too.
Are there any good Skymiles offers for threshold spend to get MQMs? Most I'm seeing is 5k Plat, 10k Reserve, both w mediocre RDMs too.
#1526
Join Date: May 2012
Programs: UA, TY
Posts: 9
I'm slightly torn so I'm hoping for some guidance.
A little background...
CSP: 3/2013
Amex Blue: 7/2012
United Mileage Plus: 5/12
Currently have the following cards in my wallet
Chase UA Explorer, CSP and UA MP (no AF)
Citi Foward
Amex Blue
I'm looking for some hotel cards so I was eyeing Club Carlson and SPG. Would like to churn Citi AA as well along with obtaining the Chase Ink.
I understand that CC is the hardest to get but I'm really hesitant to send my info to them even via certified mail. Is it worth the trouble to block it or should I just give the application a shot?
FICO: 740-750s
AAoA: 6 plus years
No late payments.
A little background...
CSP: 3/2013
Amex Blue: 7/2012
United Mileage Plus: 5/12
Currently have the following cards in my wallet
Chase UA Explorer, CSP and UA MP (no AF)
Citi Foward
Amex Blue
I'm looking for some hotel cards so I was eyeing Club Carlson and SPG. Would like to churn Citi AA as well along with obtaining the Chase Ink.
I understand that CC is the hardest to get but I'm really hesitant to send my info to them even via certified mail. Is it worth the trouble to block it or should I just give the application a shot?
FICO: 740-750s
AAoA: 6 plus years
No late payments.
#1527
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: BOS
Programs: UA 1K, AA GLD
Posts: 237
I've been trying to reduce my EX credit pulls (5 within the past year, 5 more that won't fall off til next summer); as a result, I tried applying for the Citi Hilton Reserve with an EX credit freeze; any way to recon my way into having them pull EQ or TU? Probably impossible, but figured I'd ask anyways.
On a related note, I also tried an Amex 2BM and failed due to the "fraud block" if you send 2 apps in 1 day. I froze my EX after I found out the 2nd app got blocked, since I don't want an additional credit pull (aware that Amex won't pull a different bureau). My question is, can they use the same info on the first pull to approve the 2nd application?
On a related note, I also tried an Amex 2BM and failed due to the "fraud block" if you send 2 apps in 1 day. I froze my EX after I found out the 2nd app got blocked, since I don't want an additional credit pull (aware that Amex won't pull a different bureau). My question is, can they use the same info on the first pull to approve the 2nd application?
#1528
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,184
I've been trying to reduce my EX credit pulls (5 within the past year, 5 more that won't fall off til next summer); as a result, I tried applying for the Citi Hilton Reserve with an EX credit freeze; any way to recon my way into having them pull EQ or TU? Probably impossible, but figured I'd ask anyways.
On a related note, I also tried an Amex 2BM and failed due to the "fraud block" if you send 2 apps in 1 day. I froze my EX after I found out the 2nd app got blocked, since I don't want an additional credit pull (aware that Amex won't pull a different bureau). My question is, can they use the same info on the first pull to approve the 2nd application?
On a related note, I also tried an Amex 2BM and failed due to the "fraud block" if you send 2 apps in 1 day. I froze my EX after I found out the 2nd app got blocked, since I don't want an additional credit pull (aware that Amex won't pull a different bureau). My question is, can they use the same info on the first pull to approve the 2nd application?
Amex MAY approve you without a second pull, but don't count on it. What will most likely happen is an auto-decline and request for a PIN. If you don't want to take another pull, just ignore the request.
#1529
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In CT,left my heart in Leicester.
Programs: Work in progress.
Posts: 1,237
Citi and Amex, as a general rule, won't pull anything other than the original choice.
Amex MAY approve you without a second pull, but don't count on it. What will most likely happen is an auto-decline and request for a PIN. If you don't want to take another pull, just ignore the request.
Amex MAY approve you without a second pull, but don't count on it. What will most likely happen is an auto-decline and request for a PIN. If you don't want to take another pull, just ignore the request.
Just wondering what you mean there? Do you mean that after providing the PIN, and letting the pull go through, Amex has pulled the report ONCE AGAIN, for a total of two times, on some people?
#1530
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In CT,left my heart in Leicester.
Programs: Work in progress.
Posts: 1,237
I'm slightly torn so I'm hoping for some guidance.
A little background...
CSP: 3/2013
Amex Blue: 7/2012
United Mileage Plus: 5/12
Currently have the following cards in my wallet
Chase UA Explorer, CSP and UA MP (no AF)
Citi Foward
Amex Blue
I'm looking for some hotel cards so I was eyeing Club Carlson and SPG. Would like to churn Citi AA as well along with obtaining the Chase Ink.
I understand that CC is the hardest to get but I'm really hesitant to send my info to them even via certified mail. Is it worth the trouble to block it or should I just give the application a shot?
FICO: 740-750s
AAoA: 6 plus years
No late payments.
A little background...
CSP: 3/2013
Amex Blue: 7/2012
United Mileage Plus: 5/12
Currently have the following cards in my wallet
Chase UA Explorer, CSP and UA MP (no AF)
Citi Foward
Amex Blue
I'm looking for some hotel cards so I was eyeing Club Carlson and SPG. Would like to churn Citi AA as well along with obtaining the Chase Ink.
I understand that CC is the hardest to get but I'm really hesitant to send my info to them even via certified mail. Is it worth the trouble to block it or should I just give the application a shot?
FICO: 740-750s
AAoA: 6 plus years
No late payments.
I was approved for the Club Carlson card before I even knew what ARS and IDA was. But having said that, I would highly advise you to freeze them. Why take the chance?
As to the security, a LOT of us (including me,after the fact) have done it and we've had our reports blocked no problem at all.
And if (based on what you wrote) the CSP card is the last Chase card that you got, then you have a good chance of getting the Ink. You can easily block ARS and IDA and then do a mini-AOR with Citi AA, Club Carlson, SPG and Chase Ink.
If you're feeling bold,(and assuming that the AMEX Blue is the only other AMEX card you have) you could even throw in a SPG business app in there.