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TRAVEL REQUIREMENTS TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES STARTING NOVEMBER 8, 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...vel/index.html
IN EFFECT JANUARY 26, 2021 TO DECEMBER 31, 2021 UNLESS OTHERWISE AMENDED
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/g...ncrypted-p.pdf
FAQ
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...travelers.html
PASSENGER ATTESTATION FOR TRAVEL TO THE USA
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/a...21-01-12-p.pdf
OTHERS
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...L7PwJTTCggyB7k
ISSUED 21 JAN 2021: National Strategy for the COVID-19 Response and Pandemic Preparedness "EXECUTIVE ORDER PROMOTING COVID-19 SAFETY IN DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL" begins on page 174 of this document.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...vel/index.html
IN EFFECT JANUARY 26, 2021 TO DECEMBER 31, 2021 UNLESS OTHERWISE AMENDED
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/g...ncrypted-p.pdf
FAQ
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...travelers.html
PASSENGER ATTESTATION FOR TRAVEL TO THE USA
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/a...21-01-12-p.pdf
OTHERS
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...L7PwJTTCggyB7k
ISSUED 21 JAN 2021: National Strategy for the COVID-19 Response and Pandemic Preparedness "EXECUTIVE ORDER PROMOTING COVID-19 SAFETY IN DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL" begins on page 174 of this document.
Covid test for entry/re-entry to US [merged thread]
Jul 14, 2021, 6:09 pm
#1426
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Well, the way I would have done it was to have a code that is on the report that is unique to that report that can be easily validated via a portal and very difficult to break the algorithm (aes1024). You could even have taken it back to the paper days with a hologram/watermark on a physical certificate that would have a phone number with the same validation number. Technology doesn't create solutions--it only streamlines them. In this case, technology has done nothing but really made it easier to skirt stuff.
My Kaiser NAAT test is valid for travel, but United needs to see 'RT-PCR' on the paper. Instead of spending $100/ea for another RT-PCR test, I was truly tempted to just put an RT-PCR on the report and let it pass. I'm sure people with less ethical convictions have done just that. It's that hard to swap a positive to a negative either.
My Kaiser NAAT test is valid for travel, but United needs to see 'RT-PCR' on the paper. Instead of spending $100/ea for another RT-PCR test, I was truly tempted to just put an RT-PCR on the report and let it pass. I'm sure people with less ethical convictions have done just that. It's that hard to swap a positive to a negative either.
NAAT can be LAMP, TMA etc
this is why UA wants you to show RT-PCR, no other reason than the destination country requires RT-PCR
Jul 14, 2021, 8:46 pm
#1427
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My local Walgreens offered NAAT that was NOT PCR.
It is (to me) somewhat confusing (and I worked in healthcare for almost a quarter century
).But of course that is a little Off Topic for arrival to US thread
Jul 14, 2021, 9:05 pm
#1428
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Exactly. I got into an argument with someone on the 'Current China Entry' Forum about NAAT not being the same PCR due to not having to convert RNA to DNA, but I was personally confused why it matters on a US Int'l Arrivals Forum. 🤣
Jul 15, 2021, 7:19 am
#1429
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Why does https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coro...hengen-uk.html stay closed for a week? Now we getting 10+ topics while it could've been in one? Mods not even reply to DM's asking to re-open it?
Jul 15, 2021, 12:02 pm
#1430
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Has anyone gotten a positive test before the flight home? International travel is finally a possibility again but the thought of a forced extension to a trip worries me.
What would the procedure even be, keep arranging tests until a negative?
What would the procedure even be, keep arranging tests until a negative?
Jul 15, 2021, 1:23 pm
#1431
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Also, airlines are likely to ask whether you've had a positive test result within the last X days. DL does this during OLCI, even for domestic flights. I think X = 14 in this case. Even if a later test is negative, you would still need to answer yes to the question and presumably the airline would deny boarding.
Jul 15, 2021, 1:38 pm
#1432
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It depends on the country. I would assume that in most places, a positive test would be required to be reported to local health authorities. The result could be a local hospital, government quarantine center, quarantine in a hotel, etc.
Also, airlines are likely to ask whether you've had a positive test result within the last X days. DL does this during OLCI, even for domestic flights. I think X = 14 in this case. Even if a later test is negative, you would still need to answer yes to the question and presumably the airline would deny boarding.
Also, airlines are likely to ask whether you've had a positive test result within the last X days. DL does this during OLCI, even for domestic flights. I think X = 14 in this case. Even if a later test is negative, you would still need to answer yes to the question and presumably the airline would deny boarding.
Jul 15, 2021, 1:41 pm
#1433
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Not just safer, but a lot more convenient. Optum sells a two-pack with app and monitoring for $70 plus shipping. That to me is an easy choice, even if the price for a test at a foreign clinic were $0. I'm paying a helluva lot more than $70 for my holiday abroad. I'm not about waste a lot of vacation time at a clinic for a test.
Just an update, some of which may echo what's been written upthread (I haven't read everything).
1) Within the past day or two, families/friends CAN share the six-pack, and this fact is reflected on the eMed website. However, when ordering the kit, you need to enter their names and birthdates and there's presumably a limit to how many members you can ultimately have. In other words, I purchased a six-pack for myself/son/his girlfriend. This saved me $300.
2) Each person needs their own Navica app, as that's what they'll show at the airport.
3) I've successfully used the Navica app/printout when returning to the US via Delta and Qatar.
4) Having said that, it MIGHT be an issue at the departing airport. For one trip, I originated in Baghdad where you need a PCR merely to enter the airport. Once in, you can use eMed/Navica to show to Qatar. Granted, Baghdad is a bit off the beaten path, but I wouldn't be surprised if this issue were to come up elsewhere. I'm guessing no in Europe, but if originating in Indonesia/Philippines, etc, I can see it. Imagine those places where you need a PRINTED copy of your itinerary to enter the airport (like Zanzibar). Again, probably not in the EU, but this is where I see the greatest risk.
5) Don't wait, in case you get a false-negative. I conduct my tests 3 days prior to departure just for this reason.
6) I had a bum test on one occasion, the agent could SEE that it was messed up, well before we got started. Might have been heat related (Iraq). Point is, take at least two per person.
7) Last point. Take screenshots. In Venice last week I almost didn't get on the flight because I couldn't get a cell signal in the airport (my bad, I had manually selected a network). I was able to hotspot off my wife's phone and display the Navica details...but it was a close call and rather nerve wracking.
Good luck all - Jamie
Jul 15, 2021, 2:17 pm
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Very helpful. Thank you. I just received a six pack of eMed tests for my wife and me to use in Italy. No problem entering my wife's name on the order. (Still kinda hoping that the US will end the testing requirement soon so that I won't need the tests to return at all...)
Jul 15, 2021, 2:19 pm
#1435
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Totally agree. I use eMed. Last week, conducted the test, then during the 15 minute wait I had a shave and poured a cup of coffee, then returned to my laptop. This is SO much better than having to find some clinic in a foreign city and wait in line, or take some hotel shuttle or some other nonsense. Here's a PSA I posed in the UA forum a few minutes ago...
Just an update, some of which may echo what's been written upthread (I haven't read everything).
1) Within the past day or two, families/friends CAN share the six-pack, and this fact is reflected on the eMed website. However, when ordering the kit, you need to enter their names and birthdates and there's presumably a limit to how many members you can ultimately have. In other words, I purchased a six-pack for myself/son/his girlfriend. This saved me $300.
Just an update, some of which may echo what's been written upthread (I haven't read everything).
1) Within the past day or two, families/friends CAN share the six-pack, and this fact is reflected on the eMed website. However, when ordering the kit, you need to enter their names and birthdates and there's presumably a limit to how many members you can ultimately have. In other words, I purchased a six-pack for myself/son/his girlfriend. This saved me $300.
wn details when ordering the 6 test kits and others were able to use some of my tests. There was no problem or question in their doing so. Now, it may be possible to add other names to the order, but I didn't see where I could do that -- I also wasn't looking for that.
Jul 15, 2021, 2:31 pm
#1436
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re: #1, I only entered my wn details when ordering the 6 test kits and others were able to use some of my tests. There was no problem or question in their doing so. Now, it may be possible to add other names to the order, but I didn't see where I could do that -- I also wasn't looking for that.
wn details when ordering the 6 test kits and others were able to use some of my tests. There was no problem or question in their doing so. Now, it may be possible to add other names to the order, but I didn't see where I could do that -- I also wasn't looking for that.
Jul 15, 2021, 5:24 pm
#1437
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Do you have to order a 6 pack or is there a smaller (and cheaper) version of the same product? I thought I saw a $70 version but I think I might be getting confused.
Jul 16, 2021, 1:54 am
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Has anyone gotten the antigen test in Italy or Austria?
Is it easy to find?
I just went through this to get a test in France (fortunately many pharmacies do the test, not sell you self-test kits as is the case in Spain).
Now I have to make sure I can get a test in Italy or Austria next month. Or whether I should just buy the Binaxx test kits.
Is it easy to find?
I just went through this to get a test in France (fortunately many pharmacies do the test, not sell you self-test kits as is the case in Spain).
Now I have to make sure I can get a test in Italy or Austria next month. Or whether I should just buy the Binaxx test kits.
Last edited by exp; Jul 16, 2021 at 3:43 am
Jul 16, 2021, 5:30 am
#1440
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Has anyone gotten the antigen test in Italy or Austria?
Is it easy to find?
I just went through this to get a test in France (fortunately many pharmacies do the test, not sell you self-test kits as is the case in Spain).
Now I have to make sure I can get a test in Italy or Austria next month. Or whether I should just buy the Binaxx test kits.
Is it easy to find?
I just went through this to get a test in France (fortunately many pharmacies do the test, not sell you self-test kits as is the case in Spain).
Now I have to make sure I can get a test in Italy or Austria next month. Or whether I should just buy the Binaxx test kits.