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TRAVEL REQUIREMENTS TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES STARTING NOVEMBER 8, 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...vel/index.html
IN EFFECT JANUARY 26, 2021 TO DECEMBER 31, 2021 UNLESS OTHERWISE AMENDED
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/g...ncrypted-p.pdf
FAQ
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...travelers.html
PASSENGER ATTESTATION FOR TRAVEL TO THE USA
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/a...21-01-12-p.pdf
OTHERS
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...L7PwJTTCggyB7k
ISSUED 21 JAN 2021: National Strategy for the COVID-19 Response and Pandemic Preparedness "EXECUTIVE ORDER PROMOTING COVID-19 SAFETY IN DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL" begins on page 174 of this document.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...vel/index.html
IN EFFECT JANUARY 26, 2021 TO DECEMBER 31, 2021 UNLESS OTHERWISE AMENDED
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/g...ncrypted-p.pdf
FAQ
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...travelers.html
PASSENGER ATTESTATION FOR TRAVEL TO THE USA
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/a...21-01-12-p.pdf
OTHERS
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...L7PwJTTCggyB7k
ISSUED 21 JAN 2021: National Strategy for the COVID-19 Response and Pandemic Preparedness "EXECUTIVE ORDER PROMOTING COVID-19 SAFETY IN DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL" begins on page 174 of this document.
Covid test for entry/re-entry to US [merged thread]
Jan 21, 2021, 2:59 pm
#556
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I have a feeling it's because some states mandate quarantine. I think the entire country should just be on the same page. Quarantine when you test positive or have symptoms and air passengers testing negative no quarantine, even voluntarily. It will probably be worked out in a few days before the testing mandate begins.
Jan 21, 2021, 3:14 pm
#557
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I wouldn't worry too much about a quarantine requirement. There is absolutely zero mechanism for enforcement unless they do a massive national guard deployment stopping people on the streets etc. Obviously won't happen. I recently returned to WA state from abroad that technically has a quarantine requirement, and while I haven't left my house because I'm catching up on netflix/hbomax and its been too cold, if I did walk out there isn't really any enforcement.
The only thing to worry about are requirements that can be verified by airlines before issuing a boarding pass.
The only thing to worry about are requirements that can be verified by airlines before issuing a boarding pass.
Jan 21, 2021, 3:57 pm
#558
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On the other hand, there are some people who do obey the law!
The goal is to reduce community spread. While it would be nice if everyone obeyed the law, if most do, that reduces spread and saves lives. So, lets hope that the approach is not "how can I break the law?"
The goal is to reduce community spread. While it would be nice if everyone obeyed the law, if most do, that reduces spread and saves lives. So, lets hope that the approach is not "how can I break the law?"
Jan 21, 2021, 4:18 pm
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I didn't state that I agreed on a mandatory quarantine. I was saying that there should be a quarantine if someone tests positive or has symptoms (not a mandatory quarantine) and everyone else go about their merry way. I believe folks should follow the CDC guidelines. Those guidelines aren't mandatory.
Jan 21, 2021, 5:05 pm
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Has this EO changed anything regarding the January 26th date that CDC says all inbound passengers must get a covid test prior to entry from any other country? I hope not. I'm going to Monterrey tomorrow for the weekend 
Jan 21, 2021, 5:06 pm
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So pretty much we have zero idea of whats up with the quarantine rules. So CDC is GUIDELINES, NOT enforcable but yet it states a requirement. Yeah, this is poorly written, and creates too many questions. ugh, these EOs are a joke.
the testing was easy, 72 hours, PERIOD..... now I test negative, why quarantine?
the testing was easy, 72 hours, PERIOD..... now I test negative, why quarantine?
Jan 21, 2021, 5:13 pm
#562
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With the proliferation of EO's, which are basically backdoor ways to bypass the historical and traditional ways to have laws come into being and which can be rescinded by a stroke of a pen, again, without proper process, I think huge number of people in our country would not consider them "laws" that they must "obey". Rules that a particular president wants to have without getting anyone's approval, sure. But laws that would be respected and obeyed, dont think so.
Jan 21, 2021, 5:14 pm
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(b) Air Travel.
(i) The Secretary of HHS, including through the Director of CDC, and in coordination with the Secretary of Transportation (including through the Administrator of the FAA) and the Secretary of Homeland Security (including through the Administrator of the TSA), shall, within 14 days of the date of this order, assess the CDC order of January 12, 2021, regarding the requirement of a negative COVID-19 test result for airline passengers traveling into the United States, in light of subsection (a) of this section. Based on such assessment, the Secretary of HHS and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall take any further appropriate regulatory action, to the extent feasible and consistent with CDC guidelines and applicable law. Such assessment and regulatory action shall include consideration of:
(A) the timing and types of COVID-19 tests that should satisfy the negative test requirement, including consideration of additional testing immediately prior to departure;
(B) the proof of test results that travelers should be required to provide;
(C) the feasibility of implementing alternative and sufficiently protective public health measures, such as testing, self-quarantine, and self-isolation on arrival, for travelers entering the United States from countries where COVID-19 tests are inaccessible, particularly where such inaccessibility of tests would affect the ability of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents to return to the United States; and
(D) measures to prevent fraud.
(i) The Secretary of HHS, including through the Director of CDC, and in coordination with the Secretary of Transportation (including through the Administrator of the FAA) and the Secretary of Homeland Security (including through the Administrator of the TSA), shall, within 14 days of the date of this order, assess the CDC order of January 12, 2021, regarding the requirement of a negative COVID-19 test result for airline passengers traveling into the United States, in light of subsection (a) of this section. Based on such assessment, the Secretary of HHS and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall take any further appropriate regulatory action, to the extent feasible and consistent with CDC guidelines and applicable law. Such assessment and regulatory action shall include consideration of:
(A) the timing and types of COVID-19 tests that should satisfy the negative test requirement, including consideration of additional testing immediately prior to departure;
(B) the proof of test results that travelers should be required to provide;
(C) the feasibility of implementing alternative and sufficiently protective public health measures, such as testing, self-quarantine, and self-isolation on arrival, for travelers entering the United States from countries where COVID-19 tests are inaccessible, particularly where such inaccessibility of tests would affect the ability of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents to return to the United States; and
(D) measures to prevent fraud.
Jan 21, 2021, 5:21 pm
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With the proliferation of EO's, which are basically backdoor ways to bypass the historical and traditional ways to have laws come into being and which can be rescinded by a stroke of a pen, again, without proper process, I think huge number of people in our country would not consider them "laws" that they must "obey". Rules that a particular president wants to have without getting anyone's approval, sure. But laws that would be respected and obeyed, dont think so.
Intentionally using deceptive/fraudulent Covid-19 test results to travel to the US is a prosecutable offense. And that remains true regardless of what some people in our country may think needs to be obeyed -- unless and until there's a conclusive court determination saying otherwise -- when it comes to regulatory demands for testing to travel to the US.
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Jan 21, 2021, 5:57 pm
#565
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Regulations can have legal force, even when the regulations are at root a product of an EO. Regardless of what some people in our country may think needs to be obeyed, violations of lawful regulations connected to EOs can give rise to civil and/or criminal penalties. [EOs that have come into legal regulatory force can't all be rescinded at just the stroke of a pen, but that's beside the point.]
Intentionally using deceptive/fraudulent Covid-19 test results to travel to the US is a prosecutable offense. And that remains true regardless of what some people in our country may think needs to be obeyed -- unless and until there's a conclusive court determination saying otherwise -- when it comes to regulatory demands for testing to travel to the US.
Intentionally using deceptive/fraudulent Covid-19 test results to travel to the US is a prosecutable offense. And that remains true regardless of what some people in our country may think needs to be obeyed -- unless and until there's a conclusive court determination saying otherwise -- when it comes to regulatory demands for testing to travel to the US.
Jan 21, 2021, 6:41 pm
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Do we have the official word that the termination of the Brazil/Europe ban has been rescinded?
Jan 21, 2021, 6:49 pm
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No. Actually, the recent EO by the previous president regarding the termination of the UK/Europe travel ban is currently under review along with all the other EOs and policy changes made recently. So, nothing has changed.
Jan 21, 2021, 9:38 pm
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With recent news out of Manaus that 80% had it, now 60% plus have it again, this is a cycle that will never end. And being in Manaus for the World Cup, its so isolated, if there having this many issues, its time to think option B. open up, and survival of the fittest. This looks like ZERO end.
Bye Bye intl travel and bye bye 90% airlines.
Liberals will NOT give money to the US3 or anyone, so I see 1 national airline at this rate sadly.
Ugh going down a dark hole.....
Bye Bye intl travel and bye bye 90% airlines.
Liberals will NOT give money to the US3 or anyone, so I see 1 national airline at this rate sadly.
Ugh going down a dark hole.....
Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 pm
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With recent news out of Manaus that 80% had it, now 60% plus have it again, this is a cycle that will never end. And being in Manaus for the World Cup, it’s so isolated, if there having this many issues, it’s time to think option B. open up, and survival of the fittest. This looks like ZERO end.
Bye Bye intl travel and bye bye 90% airlines.
Liberals will NOT give money to the US3 or anyone, so I see 1 national airline at this rate sadly.
Ugh going down a dark hole.....
Bye Bye intl travel and bye bye 90% airlines.
Liberals will NOT give money to the US3 or anyone, so I see 1 national airline at this rate sadly.
Ugh going down a dark hole.....
Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 pm
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With recent news out of Manaus that 80% had it, now 60% plus have it again, this is a cycle that will never end. And being in Manaus for the World Cup, its so isolated, if there having this many issues, its time to think option B. open up, and survival of the fittest. This looks like ZERO end.
Bye Bye intl travel and bye bye 90% airlines.
Liberals will NOT give money to the US3 or anyone, so I see 1 national airline at this rate sadly.
Ugh going down a dark hole.....
Bye Bye intl travel and bye bye 90% airlines.
Liberals will NOT give money to the US3 or anyone, so I see 1 national airline at this rate sadly.
Ugh going down a dark hole.....