Worldwide Infection Rates and Developments (was Europe only)
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And do not forget that UK vaccinated mostly with AZ and that this vaccine seems less effective on several variants than the mRNA ones. This may play a role in the UK situation.
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I think the 3 months between first and second dose may also be at play.
One shot is 50% or less effective vs. Delta variant than 2 shots.
One shot is 50% or less effective vs. Delta variant than 2 shots.
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Probably degree of exposure (time, proximity, plus load) matters, so precautions should always be taken, even for fully vaccinated...especially in a country with a dominant Delta variant...
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Sorry to hear this. It may be because you got it from someone unvaccinated, so the viral load was high. Between two fully vaccinated individuals there should not be transmission, or it should be very light load?
Probably degree of exposure (time, proximity, plus load) matters, so precautions should always be taken, even for fully vaccinated...especially in a country with a dominant Delta variant...
Probably degree of exposure (time, proximity, plus load) matters, so precautions should always be taken, even for fully vaccinated...especially in a country with a dominant Delta variant...
Agreed re how it might have found its way in
and how we still need to be careful. Luckily I’m not particularly unwell. Could be a lot worse.
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Well actually it IS kind of binary for any single person (you get it or you don't) . But at population level it's not. What matters is the percentage of vaccinated people actually getting covid. And this seems to be fairly low even for the Delta variant, at least with Pfizer. In this context, vaccination can indeed achieve virus control at population level.
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Even with Astra Zeneca, the data presented from Public Health England yesterday suggests that there is very good protection against Delta with both doses. The issue is getting everyone to that point as quickly as possible, and buying time if needed.
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I think the UK is bringing the second jab forward from 12 to 8 weeks, although you only get a prompt to do so; you need to cancel then re-schedule your second appointment yourself.
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14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000 population, weeks 22-23 (ECDC - map produced on 16 June 2021)
Geographic distribution of COVID-19 : 14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000, worldwide, weeks 22-23, date of production 17 June 2021
Geographic distribution of COVID-19 : 14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000, worldwide, weeks 22-23, date of production 17 June 2021
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14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000 population, weeks 23-24 (ECDC - map produced on 23 June 2021)
Geographic distribution of COVID-19 : 14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000, worldwide, weeks 23-24 (date of production 24 June 2021)
Geographic distribution of COVID-19 : 14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000, worldwide, weeks 23-24 (date of production 24 June 2021)
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14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000 population, weeks 24-25 (ECDC - map produced on 30 June 2021)
Geographic distribution of COVID-19 : 14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000, worldwide, weeks 24-25 (date of production 30 June 2021)
Geographic distribution of COVID-19 : 14-day COVID-19 case notification rate per 100 000, worldwide, weeks 24-25 (date of production 30 June 2021)
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The mistakes of last summer are being repeated, I even think it is way worse and the first consequences are showing, several countries with low vaccination rates are seeing cases grow again (France, Spain, Portugal, several districts of Germany, ...).
In Catalogne the Reff is above 2 now, this is the case increase. If I were you I would not book flight there, lockdown incoming.
In Catalogne the Reff is above 2 now, this is the case increase. If I were you I would not book flight there, lockdown incoming.